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Post by saggyboyflair on Dec 2, 2007 16:45:01 GMT -5
Where would u guys rank Hunter on wwe's all time greatest wrestlers list. And do u think that he has deserved the almost "unstoppable force push" over the past 7 years or so?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 2, 2007 16:46:43 GMT -5
greatest wrestlers ever? he's probably around 15-20 imho... there are some who i can think of who are definately better and then im sure there are some from when i didnt watch who are better so he could even be lower than that.
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Post by a1TheEnigma1a on Dec 2, 2007 16:47:21 GMT -5
He has been booked stupidly, I mean I think I could drown in Triple H burials.
But he just has to be in a Top 20 surely. A great heel, genuinely made you want to kill him (for more reasons than one), he can work/make others look good and he is in alot of memorable matches and feuds so I think he has earned some top recognition.
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Post by Jack on Dec 2, 2007 16:48:37 GMT -5
Below: Bret, Hogan, Rock, Taker, Flair, Austin, Piper, Andre that's for sure.
HHH's problem is that he's never really had a match or a moment or a period in his career where he's had the eyes of the world on him. Think what you like about the Warrior his WM 6 match was a seminal moment in the industries history, none of HHH's matches etc have been that.
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Post by a1TheEnigma1a on Dec 2, 2007 16:52:14 GMT -5
Below: Bret, Hogan, Rock, Taker, Flair, Austin, Piper, Andre that's for sure. HHH's problem is that he's never really had a match or a moment or a period in his career where he's had the eyes of the world on him. Think what you like about the Warrior his WM 6 match was a seminal moment in the industries history, none of HHH's matches etc have been that. Will agree with that definately, if he has that sort of exposure he probably would be higher in lists.
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Post by Big Daddy Bad Booking on Dec 2, 2007 16:56:25 GMT -5
Top 20, maybe even Top 15. There have been some phenomenal talent that has come through the WWE in the past 44 years, and HHH is one of those men, however you percieve him, has busted his ass in the ring, night in and night out, to not only make himself look good but his opponents. Sure the man has been World Champion to almost nauseating lengths, and has been booked poorly in the past, but looking back, I prefer him not to be a French guy. A legend for sure.
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Post by Mozenrath on Dec 2, 2007 16:58:18 GMT -5
Top 20? Hell yes.
Top 10? Probably.
Top 5? Quite arguably.
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Post by Jack on Dec 2, 2007 16:59:03 GMT -5
I don't think on it's own being World Champion qualifies you for anything. I certainly wouldn't put Cena in a top 20 list of anything and nor would most impartial observers.
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Post by a1TheEnigma1a on Dec 2, 2007 17:00:24 GMT -5
I think this is a topic that could be debated heavily for hours.
How he developed and matured into (at the time) the best heel in the business, the main company guy during one of it's worst times in 20 years and gave main event calibure matches on a regular basis definately solidifies his status as one of the best.
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Post by THRJamesAngelo on Dec 2, 2007 17:08:03 GMT -5
Below: Bret, Hogan, Rock, Taker, Flair, Austin, Piper, Andre that's for sure. HHH's problem is that he's never really had a match or a moment or a period in his career where he's had the eyes of the world on him. Think what you like about the Warrior his WM 6 match was a seminal moment in the industries history, none of HHH's matches etc have been that. I would think people would argue that WM18 was his "moment", but it was def overshadowed by Rock/Hogan. Other than that, youre right.
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Post by Mozenrath on Dec 2, 2007 17:12:10 GMT -5
Below: Bret, Hogan, Rock, Taker, Flair, Austin, Piper, Andre that's for sure. HHH's problem is that he's never really had a match or a moment or a period in his career where he's had the eyes of the world on him. Think what you like about the Warrior his WM 6 match was a seminal moment in the industries history, none of HHH's matches etc have been that. Sure about that? Street Fight and Hell in a Cell, vs. Cactus Jack. Wrestlemania 2000, and the follow up matches with Rock. etc. It's not like the face means a damn thing if the heel can't make you WANT the face to get a good shot in.
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Post by a1TheEnigma1a on Dec 2, 2007 17:13:17 GMT -5
Below: Bret, Hogan, Rock, Taker, Flair, Austin, Piper, Andre that's for sure. HHH's problem is that he's never really had a match or a moment or a period in his career where he's had the eyes of the world on him. Think what you like about the Warrior his WM 6 match was a seminal moment in the industries history, none of HHH's matches etc have been that. Sure about that? Street Fight and Hell in a Cell, vs. Cactus Jack. Wrestlemania 2000, and the follow up matches with Rock. etc. It's not like the face means a damn thing if the heel can't make you WANT the face to get a good shot in. 2000 was his year in my opinion. The Cactus Jack and The Rock programs were just unmissable.
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Dec 2, 2007 17:17:18 GMT -5
Top ten, top fifteen easily.
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Post by #Classic Hi-Definition X on Dec 2, 2007 17:27:43 GMT -5
Definite Top 20.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 2, 2007 17:33:20 GMT -5
i gotta say... he deserves a lot of credit for actually finishing the matches where he tore his quads... if you think about it he actually finishes both matches and in the first one even takes the walls of Jericho... he must have been in so much pain but you cant deny that he is one tough SOB for finishing
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Post by Error on Dec 2, 2007 17:37:15 GMT -5
Somewhere in the 5-8 range. One of the best in WWE history, IMO.
EDIT: I would probably go:
Austin Hogan Undertaker Savage HBK Triple H
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Post by Deleted on Dec 2, 2007 17:37:27 GMT -5
wait.... sorry for double posting but is this about "WWE" or is this wrestling in general? and does WWE mean WWF?
edit: aha! it wasnt even a double post! i win
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Post by slasher911 on Dec 2, 2007 17:48:36 GMT -5
Pre-quad injury (and before the IWC decided every little thing he does is now equivalent to him walking into their living room and back-handing their mother and grandmother with one shot) I'd put him in the Top 5, easily. Definitely in the Top 10 though.
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Post by Spankymac is sick of the swiss on Dec 2, 2007 17:50:01 GMT -5
Top 40, MAYBE Top 30. Top 20 or above, though? Not a chance. HHH is solid, charismatic, but he's not a top ten guy.
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Post by Drillbit Taylor on Dec 2, 2007 17:53:10 GMT -5
Top 5 for sure
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