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Post by Error on Aug 4, 2007 23:26:45 GMT -5
WWE snatching up TNA guys = WWE doing much needed talent acquisition. TNA snatching up WWE guys = TNA hiring a bunch of rejects and castoffs. ![](http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f352/erisi236/kanaconfused.png) Considering the TNA talent we are talking about and the WWE talent TNA has picked up (minus Christian and Angle), it makes sense, IMO.
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Post by The Line on Aug 4, 2007 23:27:17 GMT -5
WWE snatching up TNA guys = WWE doing much needed talent acquisition. TNA snatching up WWE guys = TNA hiring a bunch of rejects and castoffs. ![](http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f352/erisi236/kanaconfused.png) yeah, except that WWE doesn't push the ex-TNA guys to the moon on their first episode. THe only real ex-TNA guys to really ever do anything in WWE are Kid Kash, who an semi-major player in the cruiser and tag divisions, Monty Brown, who is an upper-mid carder on the C-show, and CM Punk, who is a Main Eventer on the C show
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Post by MGH on Aug 4, 2007 23:29:04 GMT -5
WWE snatching up TNA guys = WWE doing much needed talent acquisition. TNA snatching up WWE guys = TNA hiring a bunch of rejects and castoffs. WC logic confuses me sometimes. ![](http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f352/erisi236/kanaconfused.png) WWE is THE wrestling company. 5+ hours of TV to fill each week, 3 different brands, mammoth house show circuit, 16 PPVs a year etc. They need to keep stocked on talent, at all times. TNA. One brand, 1 hour of TV, 12 PPVs a year, minimal house show schedule. They don't make use of what they have NOW. TNA doesn't need to pick up freaking TEST and have him main eventing PPVs when Joe/Styles/Shelley etc. at the end of the day end up running around in circles.
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Post by Chuckie Finster on Aug 4, 2007 23:30:07 GMT -5
I remember Aries said at the ROH show that Homicide's was the next that comes up.
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Post by The Line on Aug 4, 2007 23:31:03 GMT -5
I'm all for Homicide going back to ROH. He could help defend ROH against Abused Society
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Post by mysterydriver on Aug 4, 2007 23:33:41 GMT -5
WWE snatching up TNA guys = WWE doing much needed talent acquisition. TNA snatching up WWE guys = TNA hiring a bunch of rejects and castoffs. WC logic confuses me sometimes. ![](http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f352/erisi236/kanaconfused.png) Um... How many TNA people are currently injured, as compared to WWE? How many TNA hirings are very debatable in nature? How many shows do WWE have as compared to TNA? WWE needs more talent, especially when considering question #1. That's why I see no problem saying that WWE is "aquiring talent." EDIT: I just saw MGH's post. Darn him for giving my opinions and claiming them as his own....
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Post by Michael Coello on Aug 4, 2007 23:34:45 GMT -5
WWE snatching up TNA guys = WWE doing much needed talent acquisition. TNA snatching up WWE guys = TNA hiring a bunch of rejects and castoffs. ![](http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f352/erisi236/kanaconfused.png) yeah, except that WWE doesn't push the ex-TNA guys to the moon on their first episode. THe only real ex-TNA guys to really ever do anything in WWE are Kid Kash, who an semi-major player in the cruiser and tag divisions, Monty Brown, who is an upper-mid carder on the C-show, and CM Punk, who is a Main Eventer on the C show Push to the moon?! OOHH! That just pisses me off so damn much when people go "TNA UVS WWE DUDEZ! THEY BECOME !!! TIME WORLD CHAMPIONZ WHILE YOUNGER GUYS GET PEED ON BY SHARK BOY!" Come on! Think of this: of the 22 people on the roster who have come from WWE, only 10 have held championships, and 5 who recently got gold. Compared to 17 guys out of 22 younger guys on the roster, with 6 winning recently. Plus, not just everyone wins belts. You don't see Maven or Mark Jindrak on the list. Angle, Cage, & Sting are guys who you have and should be in the title scene.
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Post by The Line on Aug 4, 2007 23:37:13 GMT -5
yeah, except that WWE doesn't push the ex-TNA guys to the moon on their first episode. THe only real ex-TNA guys to really ever do anything in WWE are Kid Kash, who an semi-major player in the cruiser and tag divisions, Monty Brown, who is an upper-mid carder on the C-show, and CM Punk, who is a Main Eventer on the C show Push to the moon?! OOHH! That just pisses me off so damn much when people go "TNA UVS WWE DUDEZ! THEY BECOME !!! TIME WORLD CHAMPIONZ WHILE YOUNGER GUYS GET PEED ON BY SHARK BOY!" Come on! Think of this: of the 22 people on the roster who have come from WWE, only 10 have held championships, and 5 who recently got gold. Compared to 17 guys out of 22 younger guys on the roster, with 6 winning recently. Plus, not just everyone wins belts. You don't see Maven or Mark Jindrak on the list. Angle, Cage, & Sting are guys who you have and should be in the title scene. OK. Test, a guy who's biggest accomplishments are having a terrible feud with Scott Steiner and jobbing out on the C-show debuts and is already put in the second biggest feud in the company, while other guys have never even gotten feuds job out in Xplosion matches
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Post by Michael Coello on Aug 4, 2007 23:37:22 GMT -5
WWE snatching up TNA guys = WWE doing much needed talent acquisition. TNA snatching up WWE guys = TNA hiring a bunch of rejects and castoffs. WC logic confuses me sometimes. ![](http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f352/erisi236/kanaconfused.png) WWE is THE wrestling company. 5+ hours of TV to fill each week, 3 different brands, mammoth house show circuit, 16 PPVs a year etc. They need to keep stocked on talent, at all times. TNA. One brand, 1 hour of TV, 12 PPVs a year, minimal house show schedule. They don't make use of what they have NOW. TNA doesn't need to pick up freaking TEST and have him main eventing PPVs when Joe/Styles/Shelley etc. at the end of the day end up running around in circles. Joe is on the PPV in the main event. AJ is in the same damn match Test is in! Shelley is also on the PPV, with Sabin and Daniels and Low Ki, and a bunch of other guys. Plus, while you can say WWE needs talent to fill up gaps, TNA needs more talent cause they're in the middle of a goddamn expansion!
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Post by Michael Coello on Aug 4, 2007 23:39:50 GMT -5
Push to the moon?! OOHH! That just pisses me off so damn much when people go "TNA UVS WWE DUDEZ! THEY BECOME !!! TIME WORLD CHAMPIONZ WHILE YOUNGER GUYS GET PEED ON BY SHARK BOY!" Come on! Think of this: of the 22 people on the roster who have come from WWE, only 10 have held championships, and 5 who recently got gold. Compared to 17 guys out of 22 younger guys on the roster, with 6 winning recently. Plus, not just everyone wins belts. You don't see Maven or Mark Jindrak on the list. Angle, Cage, & Sting are guys who you have and should be in the title scene. OK. Test, a guy who's biggest accomplishments are having a terrible feud with Scott Steiner and jobbing out on the C-show debuts and is already put in the second biggest feud in the company, while other guys have never even gotten feuds job out in Xplosion matches What is he in the feud? He isn't some guy who the announcers are claiming to be the next world champion. He's not the guy who is the highlight of the feud. He's the bodyguard. He's the anti-Tomko. He's a f***ing hired muscle to give more focus on a feud between Cage and his group against Sting & Abyss.
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Post by EJS on Aug 4, 2007 23:41:34 GMT -5
Test is pretty much the only WWE/WCW person TNA his hired anytime recently who I find is a bad hire. Everyone else (from the Kurt Angles to the Bashams) are good talent. And before Test, it would probably be Billy Gunn, which was quite a while ago.
Oh, and Rick Steiner I guess, but that feud has actually been VERY good, and we've only had to put up with one Rick Steiner match so far (though I think there's another one before the PPV). So it's a good hire for now. Bad if they keep him around once they're done with Team 3D.
And this excludes times when they have one-shot returns which are usually underwhelming (Syxx-Pac, Road Warrior Animal)
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Post by erisi236 on Aug 4, 2007 23:42:25 GMT -5
Their also using Test in an enforcer role at this point as a counter to Tomko, it's not like they're putting the belt on him now or likely anytime soon.
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Post by Error on Aug 4, 2007 23:45:08 GMT -5
Damn, I didn't know TNA was a life and death thing to some people.
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Post by EvilMasterBetty, Esq. on Aug 4, 2007 23:46:18 GMT -5
The issue is that TNA kept trying to push themselves as different than WWE and give new guys chances. But then they seem to sign everyone that gets released by the WWE regardless of whether they can help.
no one is saying that signing Christian or Angle is stupid, but Test? The Bashams? Team 3D still around? there's plenty of young hungry guys on the indy scene they could use for the exact same thing.
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Post by The Line on Aug 4, 2007 23:47:28 GMT -5
The issue is that TNA kept trying to push themselves as different than WWE and give new guys chances. But then they seem to sign everyone that gets released by the WWE regardless of whether they can help. no one is saying that signing Christian or Angle is stupid, but Test? The Bashams? Team 3D still around? there's plenty of young hungry guys on the indy scene they could use for the exact same thing. what I was trying to say. EMB is a poet amoung mere....trees
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Post by erisi236 on Aug 4, 2007 23:49:24 GMT -5
TNA also just hired Ricky Banderas, doesn't that count for anything? ![:)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/smiley.png)
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Post by jobber2thestars on Aug 4, 2007 23:50:07 GMT -5
I remember Aries said at the ROH show that Homicide's was the next that comes up. Hmmm, I wonder how Homicide would do in the WWE? He isn't a giant, but he also isn't a small man either. He probably wouldn't be allowed to use the Cop Killa, and the name Homicide probably would be a big no no, too.
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Post by mysterydriver on Aug 4, 2007 23:50:33 GMT -5
I wouldn't mind Test as much if they acted like he was a new guy.
The moment he shows up, Tenay goes into a seizure about, "Look! It's Andrew Martin! Formally known as Test! Andrew Martin is here!"
Why couldn't be, "Look at this Don! Who is that coming down the ramp?" "He's huge!" "He's cleaning house! Is this the back-up that Sting hinted to earlier?!" "Look at that BIG BOOT! RIGHT IN THE FACE! This guy's clearing house!" "He caught AJ! Sting & Abyss have found a third man to stop the handicap situ--" "HE JUST THREW AJ ONTO CHRISTIAN AND TOMKO!" "What power!"
Then have him introduce himself as "The Punisher" Andrew Martin. People could make the connection if they wanted...but it would make him seem less like a WWE Reject as people claim.
I know, Lex Luger's WcW debut consisted of Tony Schivonne going nuts about "Lex Luger! What is HE doing here!" but that was a different time and Luger was a star whose jumped helped start the monday night wars.
Then, we they seemingly did it every other week, "Mike Awesome? Here!" "Lance Storm! He doesn't work for us!" "[Insert name]! Why would he invade this show?!" It lost it's effect. Now it just seems weak and forced.
Of course that's my opinion, and from some of the posts I've seen, I know that some won't agree with me. I'm fine with that. I just wanted to try and explain my point.
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Post by mysterydriver on Aug 4, 2007 23:50:56 GMT -5
TNA also just hired Ricky Banderas, doesn't that count for anything? ![:)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/smiley.png) I'm pumped for a WSX invasion.
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Post by EJS on Aug 4, 2007 23:51:10 GMT -5
The issue is that TNA kept trying to push themselves as different than WWE and give new guys chances. But then they seem to sign everyone that gets released by the WWE regardless of whether they can help. no one is saying that signing Christian or Angle is stupid, but Test? The Bashams? Team 3D still around? there's plenty of young hungry guys on the indy scene they could use for the exact same thing. Does TNA push them selves as different? I don't hear anything like that from the commentators anymore. Other than maybe talking about IMPACT POINTS once in a blue moon.
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