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Post by Michael Coello on Aug 5, 2007 12:15:19 GMT -5
Because the TNA guys who leave are guys TNA actually still want... The WWE guys who leave really are cast offs... Like Christian and Angle... and Tomko. Don't forget about Tomko!
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Post by Drillbit Taylor on Aug 5, 2007 12:17:12 GMT -5
Gerweck.net Weird, eh? Scott Da'More, TNA Mole! I can see him Coming back to WWE with some TNA Talent doing a mini (nWo Midcard) Invasion
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Post by Error on Aug 5, 2007 12:17:43 GMT -5
How many BCW guys are in TNA? 8? Abyss Shelley Sabin Williams Young Roode Havoc From their current roster.
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Post by leemir on Aug 5, 2007 12:18:24 GMT -5
But WWE signing Trytan & maybe the Naturals, they are not rejects at all.
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Post by Nice Guy Cody on Aug 5, 2007 12:38:45 GMT -5
I don't know about this ROH fantasy world.. If the E offers Joe a contract to start right away, he's starting right away Er, someone correct me if I'm wrong, but hasn't he turned down a contract or two from them already? I only ask you because you seem to know better than Joe himself what he wants or plans to do.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 5, 2007 12:40:43 GMT -5
What's "Stale" to a smark, is nostalgic to a mark.
When you talk to a mark, they always say stuff like "Remember DX and the New Age Outlaws "You ass better call somebody!!!!!"
That's what people on this board don't understand about the so-called "WWE Rejects". You can't build a national promotion around 50 random indy guys.
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Post by Error on Aug 5, 2007 12:41:32 GMT -5
I don't know about this ROH fantasy world.. If the E offers Joe a contract to start right away, he's starting right away Er, someone correct me if I'm wrong, but hasn't he turned down a contract or two from them already? I think he chose TNA over WWE (he, Punk and Danielson were all offered contracts at the same time) so he could keep working the Indies and ROH.
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Post by godson on Aug 5, 2007 13:02:19 GMT -5
I don't think a guy in Joe position would go to the WWE. The lifestyle there especially after the recent tragedy or even recent injuries by the top guys would not be worth the money. He can make similar money working for NOAH(which is stable like WWE but less pressure) and the indy scene. He don't even have to sign a contract with ROH(which has bad contracts as well). He can just work for NOAH and multiple indies including ROH without a contract and be happy.
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Post by The Line on Aug 5, 2007 13:10:07 GMT -5
I don't know about this ROH fantasy world.. If the E offers Joe a contract to start right away, he's starting right away um, no. Joe already promised that he would come back to ROH someday, and I'm sure he would do it before WWE
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Post by Joekishi on Aug 5, 2007 13:33:20 GMT -5
my bad he's 30, but i was close. Samoa Joe is ALSO 30.
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Post by radicalbuttercup on Aug 5, 2007 13:35:16 GMT -5
I thought Joe was 28?
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Post by The Line on Aug 5, 2007 13:36:26 GMT -5
yeah, he's only 28(was born in 1979)
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Post by Chuckie Finster on Aug 5, 2007 14:00:58 GMT -5
What's "Stale" to a smark, is nostalgic to a mark. When you talk to a mark, they always say stuff like "Remember DX and the New Age Outlaws "You ass better call somebody!!!!!" That's what people on this board don't understand about the so-called "WWE Rejects". You can't build a national promotion around 50 random indy guys. Except for the last point you are right. Remember that the IWC is only a small part of the audience. Why the hell should they cater to the "smarks" if they're only fractions of the audience when they can cater to marks who really drive the product. And you could build a product around 50 Indy guys. It just takes very smart booking and creative angles and the overall presentation of the show. Stars have to come from somewhere. You can't push the same talent forever.
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Post by Danimal on Aug 5, 2007 14:21:58 GMT -5
Given Joe's current status I don't see him as a ROH-regular any time soon. I see him either re-signing with TNA(they are slowly growing and he can be a cornerstone-guy), accepting a nice WWE-contract, or working overseas primarily. The latter would allow Joe to work ROH some.
I think Joe needs to get some financial security, and just working as an indie-guy here won't provide that. A big-man with Joe's in-ring style isn't looking at a long career and he needs to look at the future.
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Post by Parrish on Aug 5, 2007 14:23:46 GMT -5
Surely most of the ROH guys see that TNA is in the crapper creatively...I expect Joe and Shelly to not even entertain offers to go back..unless they actually try to break the bank for Joe..which they wont.
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Post by Timmy8271 on Aug 5, 2007 14:51:30 GMT -5
I still think Joe will resign with TNA. They will probably promise him a title victory over Angle and Jarrett which of course will never happen.
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Post by erisi236 on Aug 5, 2007 14:55:21 GMT -5
Even with the odd booking at TNA I imagine the lighter work load is an attraction to a lot of guys.
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Post by Powder/The Professor on Aug 5, 2007 18:22:33 GMT -5
WWE need more talent wtf ? With three different brands. 2 hours of RAW (plus the rumored 3rd hour coming up), 2 hours of Smackdown and 1 hour of ECW, plus all their house shows. They need all the talent they can get. Especially talent that already has a built in fan base (big or small, dont matter).
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Post by Parrish on Aug 5, 2007 18:33:41 GMT -5
plus all these guys have to realize that once Jarrett gets back he will book himself the belt.
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Post by Joekishi on Aug 5, 2007 18:39:39 GMT -5
yeah, he's only 28(was born in 1979) Okay he's near 30.. Dude though, how is 30 or 28 even "old for the business" why is everyone starting at like age 18...i'm 22 and now it's like i don't have a shot?
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