Libertine
Unicron
Cerebral Caustic
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Post by Libertine on Aug 15, 2007 15:00:56 GMT -5
I'm just about to watch it on Bravo 2 (UK) and I'll say this for it: there's a guy in the front row with a Liverpool FC flag. So it can't be all bad.
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Kae
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Post by Kae on Aug 15, 2007 15:29:07 GMT -5
It didn't even have Edge in it either. Hard Justice was pretty terrible, though. I could not imagine how any company would be able screw up Angle vs Joe, and TNA MANAGED TO DO IT.
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Post by Nice Guy Cody on Aug 15, 2007 15:35:02 GMT -5
Nope, not at all. In 2005, he was the top face on SD against JBL, so he had to win the WWE title, a bit predictable but made sense. In 2006, a lot of people were predicting HHH to beat Cena and were definitely surprised by the outcome. In 2007, many thought this was the perfect opportunity to have Shawn Michaels beat Cena, and thought he would get it from him at Mania, but Cena won it. A great deal less predictable than every single TNA PPV main event this year ending with a run-in/clusterf*** finish. Cena overcoming the odds forever is tiresome, not necessarily predictable. Being able to say "SPOILER: Cena Wins" with full certainty for the last three years straight without ever being wrong = predictability.
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Hiroshi Hase
Patti Mayonnaise
The Good Ol' Days
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Post by Hiroshi Hase on Aug 15, 2007 15:39:50 GMT -5
Cena overcoming the odds forever is tiresome, not necessarily predictable. Being able to say "SPOILER: Cena Wins" with full certainty for the last three years straight without ever being wrong = predictability. Maybe to some, but not to everyone. I'm pretty certain it wasn't 100% predictable to every single person watching that Cena would go over Trips or HBK.
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Post by thestinger on Aug 15, 2007 16:19:54 GMT -5
I saw highlights of the Angle/Joe match. From what I saw, tt was just a bad match. Well I saw it all, and it wasn't a bad match. Nevermind who won or lost. It was just terrible. And I would still say that even if Joe won (even if most others didn't).. I don't think you should say it now, if you haven't seen the entire match. It was a good match. But only a 'good' match, not the match of the year candidate it could have been. Still, when I first started ordering TNA ppvs, main events were Christian vs. Abyss and Christian vs. the Abyss-mal Monty Brown. Joe Angle IV was better than those. Didn't see the rest, though. So I can't comment. Although VKM ever beating anyone in any fashion is never good. uhm.... VKM didn't win. LAX won. I even mentioned that in my post.
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Post by Girth Brooks on Aug 15, 2007 16:38:49 GMT -5
Edge > Hard Justice.
Yeah I said it.
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Post by Michael Coello on Aug 15, 2007 16:40:25 GMT -5
Holy Hyperbole, Batman! The worst ever? I mean, that's, what, 20-25 years of television?
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Post by lildude8218 on Aug 15, 2007 16:46:45 GMT -5
Holy Hyperbole, Batman! The worst ever? I mean, that's, what, 20-25 years of television? More than that, wrestling has been televised for a long time. I don't have exact figures or anything.
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Post by lildude8218 on Aug 15, 2007 16:52:04 GMT -5
I blame this for crashing the board
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Post by Girth Brooks on Aug 15, 2007 19:22:58 GMT -5
Since nobody has given any reasonable claims as to why Hard Justice was anything more than a poor man's Uncensored '95, I hereby declare Hard Justice the worst wrestling event of all time, televised or not.
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erisi236
Fry's dog Seymour
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Post by erisi236 on Aug 15, 2007 19:29:09 GMT -5
Since nobody has given any reasonable claims as to why Hard Justice was anything more than a poor man's Uncensored '95, I hereby declare Hard Justice the worst wrestling event of all time, televised or not.
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Post by Michael Coello on Aug 15, 2007 19:29:58 GMT -5
Since nobody has given any reasonable claims as to why Hard Justice was anything more than a poor man's Uncensored '95, I hereby declare Hard Justice the worst wrestling event of all time, televised or not. Now we're talking about non televised stuff too? Jeez! Plus, no one's probably giving reason cause you haven't given any reasonable reason why you believe it's the worst.
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Post by Girth Brooks on Aug 15, 2007 19:32:57 GMT -5
The show spoke for itself.
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erisi236
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Post by erisi236 on Aug 15, 2007 19:39:18 GMT -5
It did, and it said "Hey I had some good matches, there were at least 100 worse episodes of Thunder for Christs sake, give me a damn break."
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Hiroshi Hase
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The Good Ol' Days
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Post by Hiroshi Hase on Aug 15, 2007 19:40:30 GMT -5
I thought it was saying "I got a few good matches, but please forgive me for the pretty s****y main event and ending"
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Post by Michael Coello on Aug 15, 2007 19:44:21 GMT -5
I thought it was saying "I got a few good matches, but please forgive me for the pretty s****y main event and ending" Hey! .........That was the same message from last year! Must be a recording or something.
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Hiroshi Hase
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The Good Ol' Days
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Post by Hiroshi Hase on Aug 15, 2007 19:46:37 GMT -5
I thought it was saying "I got a few good matches, but please forgive me for the pretty s****y main event and ending" Hey! .........That was the same message from last year! Must be a recording or something. I guess so, and the year before that if you want to go back,lol. Can't remember the last time there was a clean finish to a TNA PPV main event.
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Post by Michael Coello on Aug 15, 2007 19:50:37 GMT -5
Hey! .........That was the same message from last year! Must be a recording or something. I guess so, and the year before that if you want to go back,lol. Can't remember the last time there was a clean finish to a TNA PPV main event. Turning Point: Angle vs Joe 2? Maybe Final Resolution, but I didn't watch that one.
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Hiroshi Hase
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The Good Ol' Days
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Post by Hiroshi Hase on Aug 15, 2007 19:51:54 GMT -5
I guess so, and the year before that if you want to go back,lol. Can't remember the last time there was a clean finish to a TNA PPV main event. Turning Point: Angle vs Joe 2? Maybe Final Resolution, but I didn't watch that one. I think it was Turning Point now that you mention it as the Final Resolution show was headlined by Abyss/Christian/Sting and I think that's where Abyss lost the strap and Christian won it back with help from Tomko/Mitchell.
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The Ichi
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Post by The Ichi on Aug 15, 2007 19:53:47 GMT -5
I thought Judgement Day and The Great American Bash 2007 were both worse than this.
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