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Post by silverking on Aug 15, 2007 19:54:42 GMT -5
WTF is with all the Thunder bashing? I'd watch WCW thunder over TNA iMPACT, Smackdown, ECW or Raw.
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Post by Hiroshi Hase on Aug 15, 2007 19:56:13 GMT -5
WTF is with all the Thunder bashing? I'd watch WCW thunder over TNA iMPACT, Smackdown, ECW or Raw. I have the entire 1998 season of Thunder and it wasn't that bad, a bit of overkill and oversaturation of talent, but it was a pretty decent (not great)show till 99,IMO.
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Post by Girth Brooks on Aug 15, 2007 20:20:16 GMT -5
I thought Judgement Day and The Great American Bash 2007 were both worse than this. You thought
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Post by infrared on Aug 15, 2007 20:25:20 GMT -5
Was it worse than Final Resolution? That was bad because nearly all of those matches involved lousy finishes except for Shelley vs Starr/Aries and Angle got concussed a few minutes into the Iron Man match.
On another note, why can't TNA do more PPVs like Sacrifice? That has been my favourite PPV of the year and you can tell it wasn't bad because I didn't hear one "Fire Russo" chant all night!
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Post by "Nature Boy" Ric Moranis on Aug 15, 2007 20:28:54 GMT -5
Aside from Heroes of Wrestling, isn't the 1991 Great American Bash the worst of all-time? This was right after Flair quit/was fired from WCW. Every match ranged from boring to terrible, and the fans entertained themselves by chanting "We Want Flair!". All-around, it was a debacle. Here's the lineup...
-Dark match: The Junkyard Dog defeated Black Bart (12:45)
- P.N. News and Bobby Eaton (w/Salt-N-Pepa) defeated Steve Austin and Terrance Taylor (w/Lady Blossom and Alexandra York) in a "Capture the Flag" Scaffold match (6:19)
- The Yellow Dog (Pillman) defeated Johnny B. Badd (w/Teddy Long) by DQ (6:00)
- Ron Simmons defeated Oz (w/Merlin the Wizard) (7:55)
- Big Josh (pre-Doink Matt Borne) defeated Black Blood (Billy Jack Haynes w/Kevin Sullivan) (5:39)
- Dustin Rhodes and The Southern Boys (Tracy Smothers and Steve Armstrong) defeated The Fabulous Freebirds (Badstreet, Jimmy Garvin, Michael Hayes) (w/Big Daddy Dink) in a Elimination match (17:10)
- The Diamond Studd (w/Diamond Dallas Page) defeated Tom Zenk (9:00)
- El Gigante (w/a bunch of midgets) defeated One Man Gang (w/Kevin Sullivan) (6:13)
- Richard Morton (w/Alexandra York and Mr. Hughes) defeated Robert Gibson (17:03)
- Nikita Koloff defeated Sting in a Russian Chain match (11:38)
- Lex Luger (w/Harley Race and Mr. Hughes) defeated Barry Windham in a Steel cage match to win the vacant WCW World Heavyweight Championship (12:25)
- MAIN EVENT: Rick Steiner and Missy Hyatt defeated Arn Anderson and Paul E. Dangerously in a Steel cage match (2:08)
As furious as I am at TNA's direction, they'd have to intentionally try to be this bad. Most of this is on YouTube...and I don't know what they were thinking trying to make One Man Gang carry El Gigante.
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Post by erisi236 on Aug 15, 2007 20:43:03 GMT -5
ugh, El Gigante Vs One Man Gang at Bash '91 is worse then everything TNA ever made combined.
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Post by Girth Brooks on Aug 15, 2007 21:12:47 GMT -5
Was it worse than Final Resolution? That was bad because nearly all of those matches involved lousy finishes except for Shelley vs Starr/Aries and Angle got concussed a few minutes into the Iron Man match. On another note, why can't TNA do more PPVs like Sacrifice? That has been my favourite PPV of the year and you can tell it wasn't bad because I didn't hear one "Fire Russo" chant all night! I've seen every single TNA PPV in 2007, admittedly all of them have had at least a few entertaining matches/spots/what have you. Hard Justice had nothing. There were hundreds of embarrassing moments. Not only embarrassing to the performers but embarrassing to me, the viewer.
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Post by HMARK Center on Aug 15, 2007 21:16:02 GMT -5
I thought Judgement Day and The Great American Bash 2007 were both worse than this. You thought The joke stops being funny after six pages. Please change tactics.
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Post by Girth Brooks on Aug 15, 2007 21:17:32 GMT -5
The joke stops being funny after six pages. Please change tactics. Excuse me but those PPVs he mentioned were Wrestlemania X-7 compared to Sunday Night's Garbage.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 15, 2007 21:26:24 GMT -5
The finish of the main event spoiled the entire night. There was some good wrestling. Most of the right people won: LAX, Kaz, Lethal and the Steiners. If Samoa Joe had kicked out after the chair shot, gotten up, headbutted Angle and locked in the Kokina clutch to win the TNA World Title -- EVERYONE would have given the show the thumbs up. Celebrating Joe's win would have made us forget for a moment to forget that all the belts are on one guy. I also agree that MANY of the people complaining did not watch the show. Lockdown 07 was an awesome PPV that I didn't regret ordering. But it had two trainwreck matches -- a blindfold match and a "electified" cage. That was all anyone could talk about afterwards. People who hadn't seen the show were telling me it was the worst PPV of the year. It wasn't. Since any Dudley match is going to suck anyway, the blindfold match was the only example of a gimmick ruining what would have been a good match. And Cowboy and Wildcat made up for it next month. I saw highlights of the Angle/Joe match. From what I saw, tt was just a bad match. Nevermind who won or lost. It was just terrible. And I would still say that even if Joe won (even if most others didn't). The thing is though, people act like they were booked to have a terrible match. As if Russo scripted the match move by move. TNA can't help if two of the best wrestlers in the world have a bad night.
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Aug 15, 2007 21:31:50 GMT -5
The joke stops being funny after six pages. Please change tactics. Excuse me but those PPVs he mentioned were Wrestlemania X-7 compared to Sunday Night's Garbage. He meant enough with the whole ' my opinion is fact' thing. It's beyond tedious.
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Post by thestinger on Aug 15, 2007 21:43:30 GMT -5
Yeah, you have no authority to 'declare' Hard Justice the worst anything.
You can only declare that you "think" Hard Justice is the worst show ever.
And very few people are going to take you seriously if that is your opinion.
People will begin to suspect you're just desperate for attention.
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Post by Hensley on Aug 15, 2007 21:51:01 GMT -5
I didn't mind the first couple of matches, but the rest (along with the predictable ending to the main event) just plain out sucked...in my opinion.
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Post by Jimichiro Likes Erick Rowan on Aug 15, 2007 23:32:49 GMT -5
Since nobody has given any reasonable claims as to why Hard Justice was anything more than a poor man's Uncensored '95, I hereby declare Hard Justice the worst wrestling event of all time, televised or not. Who are you again? An internet message board troll? That's what I thought.
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Post by Lair of the Shadow MaDaBa on Aug 15, 2007 23:41:16 GMT -5
You suck as an R&B singer!
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Post by The Blue Blazer on Aug 16, 2007 3:18:53 GMT -5
Why do you people keep responding to this Girth Brooks guy? Trolls always go away if you just ignore them...no matter how outlandishly stupid their comments are.
(And I did not see Hard Justice...but there's no way it could have been worse than KotR 1995)
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Post by thedall on Aug 16, 2007 6:50:16 GMT -5
It was a dire PPV (the first match was OK, but only 'very good' in comparison with the other matches). Many of the finishes seemed open-ended, in some way making the feud/storyline continue (Rhino's drinking, Christian leaving his team). It didn't feel like much progression was actually made- primarily because there were no titles on the line!
I think the hatred that this event has mustered has come from the swerve. It was rubbish, but the idea of protesting is silly. No company improves if people stop buying it.
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Post by hollywood on Aug 16, 2007 7:56:23 GMT -5
It was a dire PPV (the first match was OK, but only 'very good' in comparison with the other matches). Many of the finishes seemed open-ended, in some way making the feud/storyline continue (Rhino's drinking, Christian leaving his team). It didn't feel like much progression was actually made- primarily because there were no titles on the line! I think the hatred that this event has mustered has come from the swerve. It was rubbish, but the idea of protesting is silly. No company improves if people stop buying it. But continued support won't make them change their ways, either.
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Post by Dynamite Kid on Aug 16, 2007 8:29:36 GMT -5
Worst of all time? Bollocks. It wasn't that bad.
And for my money, it's certainly better than Victory Road.
I gotta say, I love Blackdust.
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Post by poi zen rana on Aug 16, 2007 8:50:15 GMT -5
It was a dire PPV (the first match was OK, but only 'very good' in comparison with the other matches). Many of the finishes seemed open-ended, in some way making the feud/storyline continue (Rhino's drinking, Christian leaving his team). It didn't feel like much progression was actually made- primarily because there were no titles on the line! I think the hatred that this event has mustered has come from the swerve. It was rubbish, but the idea of protesting is silly. No company improves if people stop buying it. But continued support won't make them change their ways, either. true but if tna had more support and were an actual competitor to the wwe, the wwe and tna would both try harder to make a good product to win over fans. competition is good for business. without it companies get lazy (i'm looking at you wwe)
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