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Post by robferatu on Aug 25, 2007 1:56:29 GMT -5
The saddest thing about TNA is they're already entering the "Finals Days of WCW" type era, without ever peaking like a WCW did.
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Post by Timmy8271 on Aug 25, 2007 1:58:39 GMT -5
I'll still wait till he leaves TNA to beileve it but I hope it's true. It would mean I wouldn't have a reason to watch TNA anymore.
I don't think Joe would get jobbed out in wwe. They might have him lose a little weight though.
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Post by sexualvanilla on Aug 25, 2007 1:58:41 GMT -5
Honestly, I feel it'd be a bad idea if Joe signed with the WWE. They've already got a samoan they're happy with and I feel he'd be treated as the bastard stepchild.
However, selfishly, I'd love it if he stopped by ROH for a PPV or 2 before eventually going to the WWE (doesn't need to sign an ROH contract). Especially if it leads to Joe/Morishima 2 for the title as originally planned
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Post by BrodietheSlayer on Aug 25, 2007 2:53:30 GMT -5
If WWE is SMART....
CM Punk/Samoa Joe....
Wrestlemania
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Post by Kae on Aug 25, 2007 3:03:20 GMT -5
The WWE has expressed interest in Joe in the past, and they are aware of the following he has. I don't think they'd change him much at all.
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Post by godson on Aug 25, 2007 5:18:16 GMT -5
Yeah, Punk's the one guy I try to keep tabs of in WWE, and his run hasn't really been inspiring. Don't get me wrong, I'm glad to see he's doing well for himself, and I know he hasn't been around THAT long, but the guy's capable of so, so much more, and, come on; WWE's given guys super-mega-pushes in FAR less time before. I mean, Cena's first feud at ALL was with then-champion Lesnar, for cryin' out loud. Well, Cena had been on TV for 10 or 11 months when his feud with Lesnar began (and had a mini feud with Eddy) and Punk has been on ECW for about the same amount of time and is now feuding with the champ there (and had two mini feuds along the way). They appear to be on the same WWE career path at the moment. Ummmm, there is a difference between Lesnar WWE champion vs. Johnny Nitro ECW champion. The ECW title belt is on the same level and probably lesser than the US title at this point. However, would he rather accept the WWE deal over a ROH/NOAH deal? |
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Post by Andrew is Good on Aug 25, 2007 7:09:34 GMT -5
Yeah, Punk's the one guy I try to keep tabs of in WWE, and his run hasn't really been inspiring. Don't get me wrong, I'm glad to see he's doing well for himself, and I know he hasn't been around THAT long, but the guy's capable of so, so much more, and, come on; WWE's given guys super-mega-pushes in FAR less time before. I mean, Cena's first feud at ALL was with then-champion Lesnar, for cryin' out loud. Actually, it wasChris Jericho, then Rikishi, then he did a bit with Los Guerreros. And he got a shot at Brock Lesnar after that, yes, but also didn't get another shot until about 2 years later. Punk has been doing really well. While he's on the ECW brand, there's a good chance he's gonna win the ECW World Title at SummerSlam, making him one of the 3 Champions. Just because he didn't get the Brock Lesnar or Bobby Lashley treatment, doesn't mean he wasn't beyond successful, especially since everybody was thinking he'd get buried. Joe vs Punk in WWE. WWE probably has heard of it, and knows what they'll do. They won't do a Joe/Angle deal and throw the feud in right off the bat. They'll make people wait. Make them want it. Also, Joe has some good relations in WWE, including with the WWE Champion. So he has an in with the possible future ECW Champion, and the WWE Champion. That sounds pretty good to me. |
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Post by I'm The Cool One on Aug 25, 2007 7:36:53 GMT -5
i love how Joe is the be all end all of TNA to you guys. you call TNA the new WCW, but you do realize that WCW went a good long while filled with suckage before they went down, and they went down because of bad business, not bad ratings. if jow were to leave TNA, it would not be the end of TNA. they would still have the big names, and they'd just bring in more big names, and taht would keep the people who just want to see guys they havent seen in a while watching. the x-division used to be the biggest attraction in TNA, and its not anymore. therefore, they can lose some of those guys, or even someone like joe, and its not going to make a difference
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Post by Deleted on Aug 25, 2007 7:52:05 GMT -5
I really hope that Samoa Joe goes to WWE.
Personally, I think he will do VERY well there. Remember, he's good friends with John Cena so I guess that Cena will be putting a good word in for him.
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Post by voiceboxisback on Aug 25, 2007 10:23:27 GMT -5
Yeah, Punk's the one guy I try to keep tabs of in WWE, and his run hasn't really been inspiring. Don't get me wrong, I'm glad to see he's doing well for himself, and I know he hasn't been around THAT long, but the guy's capable of so, so much more, and, come on; WWE's given guys super-mega-pushes in FAR less time before. I mean, Cena's first feud at ALL was with then-champion Lesnar, for cryin' out loud. Actually, it wasChris Jericho, then Rikishi, then he did a bit with Los Guerreros. And he got a shot at Brock Lesnar after that, yes, but also didn't get another shot until about 2 years later. Punk has been doing really well. While he's on the ECW brand, there's a good chance he's gonna win the ECW World Title at SummerSlam, making him one of the 3 Champions. Just because he didn't get the Brock Lesnar or Bobby Lashley treatment, doesn't mean he wasn't beyond successful, especially since everybody was thinking he'd get buried. Joe vs Punk in WWE. WWE probably has heard of it, and knows what they'll do. They won't do a Joe/Angle deal and throw the feud in right off the bat. They'll make people wait. Make them want it. Also, Joe has some good relations in WWE, including with the WWE Champion. So he has an in with the possible future ECW Champion, and the WWE Champion. That sounds pretty good to me. You forgot Brian Gerwitz who is perhaps the biggest MARK for Joe as a character and worker, so he's got a friend in the top writer on their A-Show... If that doesn't scream a push coming Joe's way, I don't know what will. |
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Post by voiceboxisback on Aug 25, 2007 10:35:50 GMT -5
If WWE is SMART.... CM Punk/Samoa Joe.... Wrestlemania To quote Samoa Joe at the Final Battle 06' afterparty "The only way I'd fight this mothersmurfer is at Wrestlemania" |
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Post by sexualvanilla on Aug 25, 2007 11:28:29 GMT -5
i love how Joe is the be all end all of TNA to you guys. you call TNA the new WCW, but you do realize that WCW went a good long while filled with suckage before they went down, and they went down because of bad business, not bad ratings. if jow were to leave TNA, it would not be the end of TNA. they would still have the big names, and they'd just bring in more big names, and taht would keep the people who just want to see guys they havent seen in a while watching. the x-division used to be the biggest attraction in TNA, and its not anymore. therefore, they can lose some of those guys, or even someone like joe, and its not going to make a difference It's not so much that he's the end all, be all of TNA talent but when thinking of the long term future of the company, he's one of their biggest assets towards staying in business. The guy was incredibly over and isn't a recycled guy from WWF's glory days. He's a guy they could build the company around that the WWE can't say they created and that's what TNA needs. Guys like Cage, Angle, etc. won't be around forever and although they can bring in other guys, it wouldn't be the same. They can't mine ROH anymore since a lot of their top talent have contracts, and there aren't too many other indy guys that have the charisma, skill, or package of Joe. They're also running out of WWE castoffs to rely on, so they need all the assets they can get |
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Post by godson on Aug 25, 2007 12:25:15 GMT -5
I haven't watch a full WWE show in a year, so Joe going to the WWE would be the end of me being a fan of his.
Just because he is friends with Cena don't mean nothing. Bentley cousin is freakin HBK and he can even get a development deal with them. Animal brother is basically one of the head guys in charge and he was release. Being in relationships is not enough. Hell, Konnan had Rey and Eddie on his side and still couldn't get a job in the WWE.
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Post by sexualvanilla on Aug 25, 2007 12:30:21 GMT -5
I haven't watch a full WWE show in a year, so Joe going to the WWE would be the end of me being a fan of his. Just because he is friends with Cena don't mean nothing. Bentley cousin is freakin HBK and he can even get a development deal with them. Animal brother is basically one of the head guys in charge and he was release. Being in relationships is not enough. Hell, Konnan had Rey and Eddie on his side and still couldn't get a job in the WWE. However, it takes 2 to tango. In interviews recently, Bentley said he isn't really looking for a development deal right now and since he was just released, it doesn't mean that he'll be heading there right away. Animal said the release was mutual since he wasn't happy and wasn't straight out fired. And Konnan has repeatedly said he doesn't wanna work for the WWE. Relationships can get you far in wrestling, just look at Angle and his hiring spree in TNA |
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Post by Lair of the Shadow MaDaBa on Aug 25, 2007 12:42:13 GMT -5
I haven't watch a full WWE show in a year, so Joe going to the WWE would be the end of me being a fan of his. Just because he is friends with Cena don't mean nothing. Bentley cousin is freakin HBK and he can even get a development deal with them. Animal brother is basically one of the head guys in charge and he was release. Being in relationships is not enough. Hell, Konnan had Rey and Eddie on his side and still couldn't get a job in the WWE. Konnan had a job in WWE in the mid-90's and hated it; he doesn't WANT a job in WWE. |
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Post by HMARK Center on Aug 25, 2007 12:47:31 GMT -5
I wasn't aware that Cena did that much before facing Lesnar; I just remember him debuting and challenging Brock.
Then again, I wasn't watching regularly back then, so I guess it was easy for me to miss something.
Nevertheless, I still find ECW Punk kind of uninspiring, though we do get flashes of brilliance sometimes. Point is, some of these guys are my favorites, and I've already seen them in some of the coolest, most epic matches I've ever seen...so I wouldn't really get a kick out of them in WWE.
It's too bad for me, but hopefully great for them. I want Joe and Punk, along with others, to end up millionaires, but the selfish fan part of me wants them on the next ROH pay per view.
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Post by godson on Aug 25, 2007 12:54:29 GMT -5
I haven't watch a full WWE show in a year, so Joe going to the WWE would be the end of me being a fan of his. Just because he is friends with Cena don't mean nothing. Bentley cousin is freakin HBK and he can even get a development deal with them. Animal brother is basically one of the head guys in charge and he was release. Being in relationships is not enough. Hell, Konnan had Rey and Eddie on his side and still couldn't get a job in the WWE. However, it takes 2 to tango. In interviews recently, Bentley said he isn't really looking for a development deal right now and since he was just released, it doesn't mean that he'll be heading there right away. Animal said the release was mutual since he wasn't happy and wasn't straight out fired. And Konnan has repeatedly said he doesn't wanna work for the WWE. Relationships can get you far in wrestling, just look at Angle and his hiring spree in TNA Bentley try to get one when he first left TNA and he had no choice but to re-sign with TNA. Konnan try to get a job as an announcer but he didn't talk to the right people behind the scenes when he went to visit the WWE. Rey and Eddie both told him to shake as many hands as possible. He mention this on the Observer. Joe is too laid back and chill to do all that politics. Punk is different because he always wanted to be in the WWE, that was his main goal. Joe and Danielson on the other hand is different. Joe personality and WWE just don't match. It would be a bad relationship. Don't really get the Angle analogy. |
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Post by The Line on Aug 25, 2007 12:58:53 GMT -5
It's too bad for me, but hopefully great for them. I want Joe and Punk, along with others, to end up millionaires, but the selfish fan part of me wants them on the next ROH pay per view. Thats exactly how I feel. I want Punk and Joe and Londrick and Gibson and Cabana and whoever else all back, but at the same time, they deserve what they're getting now. |
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Post by thesmallerkhali on Aug 25, 2007 13:16:18 GMT -5
Joe is too laid back and chill to do all that politics. Punk is different because he always wanted to be in the WWE, that was his main goal. Joe and Danielson on the other hand is different. Joe personality and WWE just don't match. It would be a bad relationship. Since when did you know Joe personally? And how he acts? |
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Post by thestinger on Aug 25, 2007 13:16:58 GMT -5
Yeah, even though Joe with WWE would mean I would never see one of my favorite wrestlers again, I'm not going to be like, "JOE IS TEH SELLOUT!!1
The man just got married. The minute a guy has a family, he has an obligation to earn the best living he can. I don't begrudge him anything.
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