ppl so biased

[Timmy8271]

brentreznor said:

Everyone has the right to not like something. If you watch something on TV, it inputs your brain, and your brain outputs that it sucks, than that's fine.

The only thing that gets me about the TNhAters. Is how they all think they have access to TNA's business portfolios and go on about how they're going to go bankrupt in 6 months and they're worse than WCW 2000 and all this other hyperbole.

A few people on the internet not buying a PPV or not watching a show, is not reflective of how a product is doing with the general public.

True or False: TNA shows at the impact zone are free right? What are the PPV Buyrates? Anyone know this? At the end of the day, that's all Spike TV cares about is the ratings and money. And TNA should care about what Spike TV cares about.

[Boku AKA Da Green Guy]

In defense of the CW situation and I don't completely believe this...

But it's getting the crowd to notice the title, which was little more than a prop before. And if they book this right, Noble should win it proving his pit bull persona.

[Super Nimieboo]

timmy8271 said:

chuckymac314 said:

True, so true it's painful, actually, but on the flip side of that coin, I believe that one of the best wrestlers in WWE being made to look like an idiot by a midget dressed as a leprechaun deserves to be bashed all to hell, but when I say that, my views on things are called "too harsh", and the segment is called "hilarious". Things are definetly backwards.

He has no one to blame but himself because isn't he the one booking it? I know he took over the laying out of the crusierweight championships. I don't know about him or you but If I was him, I'd rather be doing stupid comedy then almost killing myself wrestling for no one that cares.

I think the last point is most valid. In the end no one cares if it isn't in the WWE and as a crusierwieght, little person or woman you're only good for comedy and piss break matches. That's their place.

[Reverend BTY]

brentreznor said:

Everyone has the right to not like something. If you watch something on TV, it inputs your brain, and your brain outputs that it sucks, than that's fine.

The only thing that gets me about the TNhAters. Is how they all think they have access to TNA's business portfolios and go on about how they're going to go bankrupt in 6 months and they're worse than WCW 2000 and all this other hyperbole.

A few people on the internet not buying a PPV or not watching a show, is not reflective of how a product is doing with the general public.

I disagree since TNA seems to be a more internet-based company. A lot of their popularity came from internet buzz and that short period where Impact was put online. I believe it was before they put it on FSN.

[Richard]

I don't see it as people being biased to WWE, I see it as people pissed that something they liked changed and, in their opinion, is now equal to or worse than WWE. I mean if my favorite show starts ignoring or pushing aside my favorite storylines and characters for stuff that I don't like, I would get upset and bitch.

It seemed that two years ago or so, TNA was considered the top company in the US (product wise) by many and barely a year ago people thought TNA was going to start another wrestling war and force WWE to change their product in much the same way WCW did. Now its seen by many (at least on here it seems) as trying to be the WWE and they either hate the WWE (thus hating what TNA has become) or would rather watch the original.

[Solid Stryk-Dizzle]

I go to a restaurant and order some kind of exotic soup, and then when I get the soup it has a huge rat in it.

Just because I'm not a expert on soup-making doesn't mean I can't complain. Thats my view on TNA's booking...A huge dead rat in my soup.

[Spankymac is sick of the swiss]

stryker said:

I go to a restaurant and order some kind of exotic soup, and then when I get the soup it has a huge rat in it.

Just because I'm not a expert on soup-making doesn't mean I can't complain. Thats my view on TNA's booking...A huge dead rat in my soup.

That's generally my impression as well, although you put it alot neater than I did. My problem is that it seems that people fed up with the dead rat soup in TNA go to the bigger, fancier, supposed to be better restaurant, order the same kind of soup, get yet another huge dead rat, then proceed to eat up while either ignoring the rat or saying "Wow, this rat makes it taste even better." Akward metaphor, but you get my meaning.

[mysterydriver]

Oh, while we're discussing humor in wrestling, I'd like to admit some stuff in CHIKARA that I don't like.

I find "Moscow The Communist Bovine" to be rather stupid and a complete waste of the create-a-wrestler thing. Sorry to the creator, whereever he or she may be, but I find it ridiculous and not in the good way.

Also, Ultra Mantis Black is hit or miss with his humor. I like him most of the time, but sometimes he get grinds on my nerves.

Finally, Chuck Taylor making kids cry isn't funny to me. In fact, Chuck Taylor in general isn't funny to me. I find the man extremely overhyped and overrated.

There. I feel better now.

[Timmy8271]

chuckymac314 said:

stryker said:

I go to a restaurant and order some kind of exotic soup, and then when I get the soup it has a huge rat in it.

Just because I'm not a expert on soup-making doesn't mean I can't complain. Thats my view on TNA's booking...A huge dead rat in my soup.

That's generally my impression as well, although you put it alot neater than I did. My problem is that it seems that people fed up with the dead rat soup in TNA go to the bigger, fancier, supposed to be better restaurant, order the same kind of soup, get yet another huge dead rat, then proceed to eat up while either ignoring the rat or saying "Wow, this rat makes it taste even better." Akward metaphor, but you get my meaning.

I get what you mean and your kinda right but The "dead rat" at at TNA just seems like a cheap rip off of the "dead rat" at the big time (WWE). Why go to the cheap one when the big one has been doing it longer and at times better? I know none of this makes sense but whatever.

[Johnny]

I like TNA a lot. Its my sec fav wrestling show of the week, right behind WWECW.

[Spankymac is sick of the swiss]

mysterydriver said:

Oh, while we're discussing humor in wrestling, I'd like to admit some stuff in CHIKARA that I don't like.

I find "Moscow The Communist Bovine" to be rather stupid and a complete waste of the create-a-wrestler thing. Sorry to the creator, whereever he or she may be, but I find it ridiculous and not in the good way.

This I'll partway agree with, because I think Moscow was a waste of the contest as well, although I like what they've done with him. I still think several other gimmicks, such as AC Slaughter, Insecticide, or Olympia, would have have been much better gimmicks.

Also, Ultra Mantis Black is hit or miss with his humor. I like him most of the time, but sometimes he get grinds on my nerves.

I can't go with you on this one, dude, he cracks me up 99% of the time.

Finally, Chuck Taylor making kids cry isn't funny to me. In fact, Chuck Taylor in general isn't funny to me. I find the man extremely overhyped and overrated.

There. I feel better now.

And again, I'll halfway agree. I think Chuck's overrated as a wrestler, honestly, but as a personality, the guy is freakin' brilliant.

[Richard]

timmy8271 said:

chuckymac314 said:

That's generally my impression as well, although you put it alot neater than I did. My problem is that it seems that people fed up with the dead rat soup in TNA go to the bigger, fancier, supposed to be better restaurant, order the same kind of soup, get yet another huge dead rat, then proceed to eat up while either ignoring the rat or saying "Wow, this rat makes it taste even better." Akward metaphor, but you get my meaning.

I get what you mean and your kinda right but The "dead rat" at at TNA just seems like a cheap rip off of the "dead rat" at the big time (WWE). Why go to the cheap one when the big one has been doing it longer and at times better? I know none of this makes sense but whatever.

I look at it like that but, was going to use a recipe analogy.

Your favorite place cooks the soup using a recipe you like and you keep coming back. One day it changes and it tastes like place down street's soup but, just not as good. Why keep going to your favorite place when they have changed what made you like them, ripping off someone else, when you can go down the street and get the original?

[MGH]

I've watched two iMPACTs in the last few months. The first I only watched because it featured what was being called "the greatest match in iMPACT history". So I say to myself ... why not? Maybe it'll be at least good.

WRONG! I thought a triple threat usually involved 3 people. By the time Vincent St. Run-In was done, it looked like a battle royal.

No offense, but if that's the best you've got then that's pathetic looking at your roster.


Then a couple of weeks ago my girl and I are talking and she wants to watch iMPACT. Surprises the hell out of me since she seems as unentertained by the company as me, but whatever. She wants to give it a go, I'm game.

First thing I watch is VK f***ing M beating Chris Sabin and Alex Shelley in 90 seconds. Followed up nicely by a brawl that I never even saw a conclusion too. Needless to say, we didn't make it through the entire episode.

That company pisses me off so much, as just 14 months ago I was willing to give up WWE for them I thought they were so freaking good. God how times change quickly. I downloaded that 4 month stretch of PPVs from last summer a month or so ago to relive a few good times. Because god knows this company isn't giving them to me now.

[poi zen rana]

jinxed said:

timmy8271 said:

I get what you mean and your kinda right but The "dead rat" at at TNA just seems like a cheap rip off of the "dead rat" at the big time (WWE). Why go to the cheap one when the big one has been doing it longer and at times better? I know none of this makes sense but whatever.

I look at it like that but, was going to use a recipe analogy.

Your favorite place cooks the soup using a recipe you like and you keep coming back. One day it changes and it tastes like place down street's soup but, just not as good. Why keep going to your favorite place when they have changed what made you like them, ripping off someone else, when you can go down the street and get the original?

in my case i keep watching tna because even if the preparation style changed to mimic the other company's, i still like tna's ingredients better. that is just me.

[Hiroshi Hase]

chainsawiscaw said:

chuckymac314 said:

While your eloquence leaves a little something to be desired, you do have a decent point. Both TNA and WWE are crap right now, but it seems like only TNA catches crap from people for it, while WWE gets praised for doing equally stupid stuff. Why? I don't know, but it happens.

I agree. I saw people falling over themselves about how funny the Noble sketch was where he was trying to catch Hornswaggle tonight, and could only shake my head. I'm all for comedy, but that's so broad, it's cartoonish.

If TNA tried something like that, people would be swarming praying for TNA's demise.

I think a lot of that has to do with TNA's claim they're an alternative to WWE, as opposed to WWE not saying they're a wrestling show, and pure entertainment, so seeing a segment like that wouldn't be out of the ordinary on a WWE broadcast.

[HMARK Center]

The truth is, people ARE much more harsh towards TNA than they are towards WWE...because they have higher expectations, at least among people who aren't pure WWE marks who go out of their way to bash non-WWE products (of which there is a saddening number of).

A LOT of wrestling fans are starved for an alternative, and thus take it extra hard when they think they've found one, but then feel like it's been swept out from under them.

See, the TNA = 2000 WCW hyperbole is bunk, by and large (just read Death of WCW, people; there's no comparison), but the frustration level is higher these days due to just how lackluster the WWE has been.

Really, all the lame comedy/skits/whatever on WWE? It's expected now. The WWE is what it is: a company that doesn't have much interest in appealing to straight-up wrestling fans.

So while I don't always agree with just how harshly TNA gets judged (I just get annoyed by how they go from quality shows, to suddenly a month and a half of awful TV, then back to two months of quality...get some damn consistency!), I see what the mindset is: heavy expectations and hopes.

On a side note, why does everyone always try to say ROH is this ultra-serious promotion? Good Lord people, Colt Cabana JUST left, and Delirious and Adam Pearce are major players. Not to mention that ROH was the place where we were treated to the Second City Saints rendition of "Grease Lightening".

...Ok, fine, it's not CHIKARA or PWG for comedy, but I never understood the whole stereotype of "it's just pure wrestling and serious promos!". That's pretty baseless.

[Kevin Hamilton]

chuckymac314 said:

stryker said:

I go to a restaurant and order some kind of exotic soup, and then when I get the soup it has a huge rat in it.

Just because I'm not a expert on soup-making doesn't mean I can't complain. Thats my view on TNA's booking...A huge dead rat in my soup.

That's generally my impression as well, although you put it alot neater than I did. My problem is that it seems that people fed up with the dead rat soup in TNA go to the bigger, fancier, supposed to be better restaurant, order the same kind of soup, get yet another huge dead rat, then proceed to eat up while either ignoring the rat or saying "Wow, this rat makes it taste even better." Akward metaphor, but you get my meaning.

They season it right I guess. Bbq sauce really does make everything taste better.

[Michael Coello]

Can we can the food analogies, please? It's hard to walk half a mile to the nearest fast food place in the middle of the night with no car.

You know what, I'll just say this: TNA gets a lot of rightful flak for stuff they do, and gets a lot of wrongful flak for stuff they do. Seriously, it's like every era of TNA had something tremendously wrong with it.

Some people take this business too seriously. It's like no favorite can ever lose and no hated guy can ever win. TNA WILL NOT GO OUT OF BUSINESS CAUSE THE MCMG LOST TO VKM IN 90 SECONDS! I'm sorry the guys you rooted for lost, but come on! If your favorites won every time, the show would get goddamn boring real quick. Plus, there has to be someone who likes VKM and may enjoy seeing them win. What makes you better than them?

Plus, what is this magical wrestling test that TNA has to pass every week for it to be considered ok for them to say "We Are Wrestling?" as a simple frigging tagline? I don't get, and still don't get, why TNA is considered WWE lite cause they have a few storylines that aren't just "I hate you. I hate you too. I'm gonna beat your ass!" things. Is ROH not wrestling anymore with Project 161 or Jimmy & Lacey before that? I don't anyone would call ROH "Sports Entertainment" for that, so I don't get why TNA gets it cause a few of their things aren't lineal. Oh, right, cause they hired Test for 2 weeks.......

I get it: People don't like TNA cause these guys you saw in the indys aren't in the same position or getting the same push they did in ROH, and how some guy who has a WWE background is employed(He doesn't even have to do anything for him to get hated) instead of someone else. Seriously, though, you can't go "The X-Division guys need a push" and bitch when they are given gimmicks to stand out. You can't go "These old timers need to lose to the younger guys more" and bitch about Rhino or Raven jobbing out to guys like Kaz & James Storm. You can't complain about "TNA isn't pushing any young stars" and then bitch when Eric Young, Robert Roode, Abyss or Chris Harris get pushes. You can't complain about WWE silent crowds and then bitch about the iMPACT zone being "too into it".

That's all I'm gonna say right now.

[Kevin Hamilton]

For me it's a one hour show that if it leaves me moderately entertained for the time it's on I'm fine with it. Same thing for Raw, ECW, and Smackdown really. If it's a great show for the entirety of it so much the better, but if not, there's always next week; and there's usually at least a match or segment on ALL of the shows that I enjoy.

All I ask really. I'm easy like Kraft Mac & Cheese.

'Nother food thing. Sorry.

[jcdenton]

ok, this guy is clearly a troll, why are he haveing such debate on this?