Ace Diamond
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Post by Ace Diamond on Sept 8, 2007 19:06:06 GMT -5
All right, i'm just going to put my opions up.
TNA helped me get really back into watching wrestling 2 years ago because it was providing alternate ideas to WWE. 2 years later, none of that exists AT ALL, and they've completely made me lose patience with them with the way they've treated some of their talent, plus the fact that they've spent a lot of money with very little in the way of returns. They've had new gimmicks that go nowhere (Serotonin) and have crippled their X Division, which used to be the major alternative focal point. Don't get me started on how they wrecked Samoa Joe as well.
The WWE has never since becoming the WWE tried to claim that "WE ARE WRESTLING". They are crappy a lot of the times but sometimes they do do some amazing work (MVP/Matt Hardy feud, MNM/Hardyz feud, CM Punk/John Morrison with the exception of that Summerslam match), they've sometimes managed to take horrible situations (injurymania) and turn them into good things. They've given new life to wrestlers through gimmick revamps. Despite a diminished roster on ECW they have consistently put out a DAMN good show.
And to address the Noble/Hornswaggle thing.
Jamie Noble is a redneck, it is his gimmick. Of COURSE he would come up with that kind of plan. And also, CHIKARA did the SAME DAMN THING, with the Olsen Twins trying to catch Up in Smoke with a mixtape.
I don't get why just because a promotion is mainstream means it must be serious at all times.
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Post by Timmy8271 on Sept 8, 2007 20:27:55 GMT -5
What guys are TNA guys? If you really wanna get technical, if TNA can't push "WWE Guys" or "WCW guys", why do they need to push "ROH/Indy guys"? Why do Alex Shelley or Samoa Joe or Homicide need a push when the WWE/WCW guys don't? Hell, the only "TNA guys" are people like AJ Styles(maybe), Abyss, Team Canada, James Storm, & Chris Harris(maybe), if you wanna get technical. If the TNA guys need pushes, then only those guys should get it. Jeez, it's not like they're giving main event pushes and belts to Disco Inferno or Robby Rage(they did that already 4-5 years ago.  ). Angle was a man who was in the main event scene in WWE till the end of his run, Cage is a guy most people thought was underused and destined for main event status, and Sting is a legend in this biz. Plus, all 3 and more have showed they still have the ability to go in the ring. You act like they all need to have oxygen masks brought to the ring and are like Jimmy Snuka or Iron Sheik in the indy scene. Angle should have a oxygen mask after those steriods finally get to him. And Sting bores me to death. But hey, it's just my opinion. Samoa Joe isn't a TNA guy? |
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Post by Michael Coello on Sept 8, 2007 21:29:41 GMT -5
What guys are TNA guys? If you really wanna get technical, if TNA can't push "WWE Guys" or "WCW guys", why do they need to push "ROH/Indy guys"? Why do Alex Shelley or Samoa Joe or Homicide need a push when the WWE/WCW guys don't? Hell, the only "TNA guys" are people like AJ Styles(maybe), Abyss, Team Canada, James Storm, & Chris Harris(maybe), if you wanna get technical. If the TNA guys need pushes, then only those guys should get it. Jeez, it's not like they're giving main event pushes and belts to Disco Inferno or Robby Rage(they did that already 4-5 years ago. ). Angle was a man who was in the main event scene in WWE till the end of his run, Cage is a guy most people thought was underused and destined for main event status, and Sting is a legend in this biz. Plus, all 3 and more have showed they still have the ability to go in the ring. You act like they all need to have oxygen masks brought to the ring and are like Jimmy Snuka or Iron Sheik in the indy scene. Angle should have a oxygen mask after those steroids finally get to him. And Sting bores me to death. But hey, it's just my opinion. Samoa Joe isn't a TNA guy? Well, if a guy like Christian Cage, who's been in TNA for about 2 years now, isn't, then what makes Joe one? They were brought in 5 months apart, due to the belief they were good signs due to their previous accomplishments in their respective companies. Both won championships a few months after their debuts(Joe 6 months after his debut, Cage 4 months after), both featured prominently in press releases, merchandise, and shows during the course of their career. Both have followings in the company. Both changed their stances(Joe from heel to face, Cage from face to heel). Both are so similar, yet Joe is the only one called a TNA guy? Should I wait 5 months for Cage to officially be a TNA guy? What gives? |
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Post by Ace Diamond on Sept 8, 2007 21:41:29 GMT -5
Angle should have a oxygen mask after those steroids finally get to him. And Sting bores me to death. But hey, it's just my opinion. Samoa Joe isn't a TNA guy? Well, if a guy like Christian Cage, who's been in TNA for about 2 years now, isn't, then what makes Joe one? They were brought in 5 months apart, due to the belief they were good signs due to their previous accomplishments in their respective companies. Both won championships a few months after their debuts(Joe 6 months after his debut, Cage 4 months after), both featured prominently in press releases, merchandise, and shows during the course of their career. Both have followings in the company. Both changed their stances(Joe from heel to face, Cage from face to heel). Both are so similar, yet Joe is the only one called a TNA guy? Should I wait 5 months for Cage to officially be a TNA guy? What gives? Here's the difference, Joe didn't take a push intended for Monty Brown. I'm just saying. |
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Post by Michael Coello on Sept 8, 2007 21:46:46 GMT -5
Well, if a guy like Christian Cage, who's been in TNA for about 2 years now, isn't, then what makes Joe one? They were brought in 5 months apart, due to the belief they were good signs due to their previous accomplishments in their respective companies. Both won championships a few months after their debuts(Joe 6 months after his debut, Cage 4 months after), both featured prominently in press releases, merchandise, and shows during the course of their career. Both have followings in the company. Both changed their stances(Joe from heel to face, Cage from face to heel). Both are so similar, yet Joe is the only one called a TNA guy? Should I wait 5 months for Cage to officially be a TNA guy? What gives? Here's the difference, Joe didn't take a push intended for Monty Brown. I'm just saying. Yes, Joe didn't take a push away from Monty Brown. He was too busy "jobbing out the X-Division", as people would say about it. I say, my point still stands. |
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Post by Timmy8271 on Sept 8, 2007 22:18:06 GMT -5
Joe wasn't a star in the mainstream wrestling community before he came to TNA. Christian was already a star when he came in. That's why I call him a wwe guy and Joe a TNA guy. But you got a point about it. Christian will always be a WWE guy to me.
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). Angle was a man who was in the main event scene in WWE till the end of his run, Cage is a guy most people thought was underused and destined for main event status, and Sting is a legend in this biz. Plus, all 3 and more have showed they still have the ability to go in the ring. You act like they all need to have oxygen masks brought to the ring and are like Jimmy Snuka or Iron Sheik in the indy scene. 
