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Post by Boku AKA Da Green Guy on Nov 20, 2007 14:14:53 GMT -5
Am I the only one that finds CHIKARA lame?
I've tried to watch it before but the lame jokes and stupid gimmicks always leaves me shaking my head in confusion.
Take Ultra Mantis Black for example. I've heard him toted as the funniest guy ever... But everything I see him in makes me go... "Why is this guy funny again?"
Now, keep in mind, I've since Quack & Claudio in action and liked that. And I know there are some talented wreslters there. But the rest isn't that appealing to me. Sometimes it looks like, to me, another version of a WSX with the crazy stuff that is "so bad it's good."
Am I the only one that thinks this?
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Post by Turd Ferguson on Nov 20, 2007 14:16:37 GMT -5
Chikara needs international recognition.
Bring on Razor Ramon HG!
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Post by Spankymac is sick of the swiss on Nov 20, 2007 14:20:04 GMT -5
Firstly, it's not WSX, or anything like it. WSX was wrestling for an ADD audience. Chikara's matches are usually well paced, and pretty well thought out. Honestly, it's not for everyone, but if you don't mind the wacky, family friendly stuff and the HUGE lucha influence, and are willing to look past the kneejerk reaction of "What the hell is the crap?", you'll generally find great wrestling with great personalities, hilarious gimmicks that poke fun at a lot of current things in wrestling(Hydra's near constant violations of the wellness policy, for example), and generally great wrestling. I can't put it into any better words than that.
Honestly, if you don't like it, I can only offer two real pieces of advice. 1)Stick with it, and it WILL eventually grow on you once you get acquainted with all the stuff that's common in the promotion, or 2)Save yourself the hassle and don't bother with it, because it's honestly not for everyone.
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Post by jcdenton on Nov 20, 2007 14:20:35 GMT -5
I say because they make no bones about it, to see a wrestling fed not take itself seriously, is refreshing from WWE or TNA
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Post by Arthur Digby Stamp on Nov 20, 2007 14:24:42 GMT -5
I've enjoyed everything I've seen from CHIKARA so far, with the exception of a match that was posted on here a few days ago between CP Munk and...I forgot his name. Acts like an old guy. I'm sure someone knows it.
But I really couldn't stand that match. The commentator was just going on about how pissed Cm Punk was gonna be. But I may have been spoiled by the likes of Colt Cabana, Delirious and Kikutaro when it comes to comedy spots, so...take it for what it's worth.
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Post by hollywood on Nov 20, 2007 14:25:22 GMT -5
I really like Chikara, but it's not for everyone. It's definitely a niche product that specifically targets the comic-book-reading-video-game-playing-sci-fi-loving-cartoon-loving demographic.
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Post by Spankymac is sick of the swiss on Nov 20, 2007 14:26:34 GMT -5
I've enjoyed everything I've seen from CHIKARA so far, with the exception of a match that was posted on here a few days ago between CP Munk and...I forgot his name. Acts like an old guy. I'm sure someone knows it. But I really couldn't stand that match. The commentator was just going on about how pissed Cm Punk was gonna be. But I may have been spoiled by the likes of Colt Cabana, Delirious and Kikutaro when it comes to comedy spots, so...take it for what it's worth. Darkness Crabtree, and yeah, that match was not great, although that was kinda the point and Kingston on commentary saved it from being unwatcheable in my opinion. That was just a match where two gimmicks that probably shouldn't have been in the ring together got combined, and it didn't really work.
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Boku AKA Da Green Guy
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Post by Boku AKA Da Green Guy on Nov 20, 2007 14:26:59 GMT -5
I've enjoyed everything I've seen from CHIKARA so far, with the exception of a match that was posted on here a few days ago between CP Munk and...I forgot his name. Acts like an old guy. I'm sure someone knows it. But I really couldn't stand that match. The commentator was just going on about how pissed Cm Punk was gonna be. But I may have been spoiled by the likes of Colt Cabana, Delirious and Kikutaro when it comes to comedy spots, so...take it for what it's worth. That's what caused me to make this thread. That was so horrible and insulting, no wonder Punk (if the rumors are true) dislikes CHIKARA.
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Post by Spankymac is sick of the swiss on Nov 20, 2007 14:28:14 GMT -5
I've enjoyed everything I've seen from CHIKARA so far, with the exception of a match that was posted on here a few days ago between CP Munk and...I forgot his name. Acts like an old guy. I'm sure someone knows it. But I really couldn't stand that match. The commentator was just going on about how pissed Cm Punk was gonna be. But I may have been spoiled by the likes of Colt Cabana, Delirious and Kikutaro when it comes to comedy spots, so...take it for what it's worth. That's what caused me to make this thread. That was so horrible and insulting, no wonder Punk (if the rumors are true) dislikes CHIKARA. I honestly don't get why he would. He main evented their first ever show, and honestly, if he doesn't have the sense of humor to laugh with the Munk lovers, then to him.
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Post by Boku AKA Da Green Guy on Nov 20, 2007 14:30:19 GMT -5
That's what caused me to make this thread. That was so horrible and insulting, no wonder Punk (if the rumors are true) dislikes CHIKARA. I honestly don't get why he would. He main evented their first ever show, and honestly, if he doesn't have the sense of humor to laugh with the Munk lovers, then to him. I don't get the gimmick, really. It's not really a tribute to him because the dude wrestling looks pretty bad. And it does appear to be more of an insult than anything.
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Post by Spankymac is sick of the swiss on Nov 20, 2007 14:31:29 GMT -5
I honestly don't get why he would. He main evented their first ever show, and honestly, if he doesn't have the sense of humor to laugh with the Munk lovers, then to him. I don't get the gimmick, really. It's not really a tribute to him because the dude wrestling looks pretty bad. And it does appear to be more of an insult than anything. It's just a skewed take on the character. It's not really tribute or insult it's just..... a gimmick. He's nut free, acorn free, and better than you. Besides, they killed CP off when it was revealed to be the Necro Butcher, anyways.
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Post by Big BosskMan on Nov 20, 2007 14:31:50 GMT -5
Even more funny is that CP Munk is sometimes (if not always) played by Necro Butcher.
I've never seen a full CHIKARA show but I've liked what I've seen so far.
It's almost like they take crazy gimmicks that one might have seen in the WWF and WCW in the late 80s and early 90s and make them so absurd that it is funny (to some).
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Post by Spankymac is sick of the swiss on Nov 20, 2007 14:34:53 GMT -5
Moreover, the thing about Chikara is that they take the weirdest, most out there gimmicks that would be garbage in other feds, and MAKE IT WORK. The Colony, for instance, if booked in TNA or WWE, would suck balls, but in Chikara, it works because they're allowed to kind of make the gimmick their own and adapt the character for maximum effect.(For instance, Soldier Ant becoming SOULJA Ant this past weekend.)
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Post by Chainsaw on Nov 20, 2007 14:37:00 GMT -5
That's what caused me to make this thread. That was so horrible and insulting, no wonder Punk (if the rumors are true) dislikes CHIKARA. I honestly don't get why he would. He main evented their first ever show, and honestly, if he doesn't have the sense of humor to laugh with the Munk lovers, then to him. Word. And I like Punk, but for a guy who can crack wise on camera, he seems to have a fairly nonexistent sense of humor.
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Post by Boku AKA Da Green Guy on Nov 20, 2007 14:37:47 GMT -5
Okay, for example, you (Spanky) have called Santino a one note joke...
But lot of these gimmicks appear the same way to me too. It's like someone had a thought but kept it without thinking it through.
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Post by Spankymac is sick of the swiss on Nov 20, 2007 14:39:33 GMT -5
Okay, for example, you (Spanky) have called Santino a one note joke... But lot of these gimmicks appear the same way to me too. It's like someone had a thought but kept it without thinking it through. That's the thing, Santino IS a one note joke. His entire appeal is his accent. He does the same stupid shit every show. Now, for a Chikara character that might be considered a one note joke, like Hydra, he does something radically different and hilarious to add to his character every show, whether it's the bodysuit, the Amy Winehouse music or the dancing, he's constantly working on his gimmick and his inring work to maximize his value.
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Post by Spankymac is sick of the swiss on Nov 20, 2007 14:40:06 GMT -5
I honestly don't get why he would. He main evented their first ever show, and honestly, if he doesn't have the sense of humor to laugh with the Munk lovers, then to him. Word. And I like Punk, but for a guy who can crack wise on camera, he seems to have a fairly nonexistent sense of humor. He really does seem like a guy that can dish it out without being able to take it.
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Post by Hulk With A Mustache on Nov 20, 2007 14:40:58 GMT -5
How could you not like a wrestling cow? I mean, honestly. IT'S A WRESTLING COW!!!! ;D
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Post by Boku AKA Da Green Guy on Nov 20, 2007 14:41:38 GMT -5
Okay, for example, you (Spanky) have called Santino a one note joke... But lot of these gimmicks appear the same way to me too. It's like someone had a thought but kept it without thinking it through. That's the thing, Santino IS a one note joke. His entire appeal is his accent. He does the same stupid crap every show. Now, for a Chikara character that might be considered a one note joke, like Hydra, he does something radically different and hilarious to add to his character every show, whether it's the bodysuit, the Amy Winehouse music or the dancing, he's constantly working on his gimmick and his inring work to maximize his value. That sounds, no offense, horrible.
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Post by Spankymac is sick of the swiss on Nov 20, 2007 14:42:21 GMT -5
That's the thing, Santino IS a one note joke. His entire appeal is his accent. He does the same stupid crap every show. Now, for a Chikara character that might be considered a one note joke, like Hydra, he does something radically different and hilarious to add to his character every show, whether it's the bodysuit, the Amy Winehouse music or the dancing, he's constantly working on his gimmick and his inring work to maximize his value. That sounds, no offense, horrible. Have you ever watched a Hydra match? The guy's hilarious. His charisma is uncanny.
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