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Post by Adam Pacman Khan (akkilla) on Nov 20, 2007 20:01:17 GMT -5
The first chikara thing i saw was the "this-is-aw-some" video of the guys wrestling in slow motion. So yeah that pretty much made me mark for it a little.
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Post by Spankymac is sick of the swiss on Nov 20, 2007 20:02:30 GMT -5
The first chikara thing i saw was the "this-is-aw-some" video of the guys wrestling in slow motion. So yeah that pretty much made me mark for it a little. That would be Jimmy and Colin Olsen vs. the North Star Express, and yeah, great match. The Olsens have also had some tremendous matches against Cheech and Cloudy. |
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Post by Panda Bear on Nov 20, 2007 20:10:11 GMT -5
The first chikara thing i saw was the "this-is-aw-some" video of the guys wrestling in slow motion. So yeah that pretty much made me mark for it a little. That would be Jimmy and Colin Olsen vs. the North Star Express, and yeah, great match. The Olsens have also had some tremendous matches against Cheech and Cloudy. WWWWWWWWEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEELLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  |
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Post by Dave the Dave on Nov 20, 2007 20:11:05 GMT -5
I just watched highlights of Chikara King of Trios Night Three...and I'm intrigued. Not sure who the Raggedy Ann imposters are, but they don't look too awful.
Can someone provide a link where i can buy this stuff?
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Post by Adam Pacman Khan (akkilla) on Nov 20, 2007 20:11:14 GMT -5
actually it took someone to talk negative about chikara for me to start watching some of it :S
and also seeing someone elbow drop a newspaper is quite awesome itself
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Post by Spankymac is sick of the swiss on Nov 20, 2007 20:12:21 GMT -5
I just watched highlights of Chikara King of Trios Night Three...and I'm intrigued. Not sure who the Raggedy Ann imposters are, but they don't look too awful. Can someone provide a link where i can buy this stuff? is your source for everything Chikara DVD related. |
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Post by Panda Bear on Nov 20, 2007 20:12:30 GMT -5
I just watched highlights of Chikara King of Trios Night Three...and I'm intrigued. Not sure who the Raggedy Ann imposters are, but they don't look too awful. Can someone provide a link where i can buy this stuff? |
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Post by Dave the Dave on Nov 20, 2007 20:13:22 GMT -5
I just watched highlights of Chikara King of Trios Night Three...and I'm intrigued. Not sure who the Raggedy Ann imposters are, but they don't look too awful. Can someone provide a link where i can buy this stuff? is your source for everything Chikara DVD related. And just curious, who are the "Raggedy Ann imposters"? Did you catch a name, or watch a music video? Watched a music vid. They had clown faces with yellow hair. |
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Post by Spankymac is sick of the swiss on Nov 20, 2007 20:14:18 GMT -5
www.smartmarkvideo.com is your source for everything Chikara DVD related. And just curious, who are the "Raggedy Ann imposters"? Did you catch a name, or watch a music video? Watched a music vid. They had clown faces with yellow hair. I'm....not actually sure who that would be. Can you link me to the vid so I can help out? |
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Post by Panda Bear on Nov 20, 2007 20:17:21 GMT -5
Watched a music vid. They had clown faces with yellow hair. I'm....not actually sure who that would be. Can you link me to the vid so I can help out? Yeah....sounds like Shanestorm to me.  |
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Post by Dave the Dave on Nov 20, 2007 20:20:35 GMT -5
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Post by Panda Bear on Nov 20, 2007 20:22:39 GMT -5
Ricochet is fighting Claudio, and the Clown guy is Shanestorm. |
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Post by Spankymac is sick of the swiss on Nov 20, 2007 20:24:24 GMT -5
Ah, yep, Shane Storm. He's....not great. He's one of the only Chikara guys I can't really get into. And I believe Claudio is taking on Ricochet, and proving once again that Claudio+Smaller wrestler=Pure gold match. |
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Post by Indigocrates on Nov 20, 2007 20:29:16 GMT -5
I think CHIKARA has the potential to be awesome, but I just can't get into it, it feels too, "Indy". As in, take the ring (Without the apron, the ring that's bascially on the floor) that CHIKARA frequently uses. Seems kind of bush league, no (Not to detract from CHIKARA, just the whole thing feels bush leaguey [Is that even a word?])?
Anyone else agree?
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Post by Spankymac is sick of the swiss on Nov 20, 2007 20:32:30 GMT -5
I think CHIKARA has the potential to be awesome, but I just can't get into it, it feels too, "Indy". As in, take the ring (Without the apron, the ring that's bascially on the floor) that CHIKARA frequently uses. Seems kind of bush league, no (Not to detract from CHIKARA, just the whole thing feels bush leaguey [Is that even a word?])? Anyone else agree? Well, the ring is a combo of financial constraints and the fact that a few of their venues they run have really low ceilings(Reading, for instance, although I think they dropped that venue this past weekend). When they're in the ECW Arena, they use a "proper" ring. |
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Post by Panda Bear on Nov 20, 2007 20:33:53 GMT -5
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Post by Andrew is Good on Nov 20, 2007 21:39:09 GMT -5
To me, Chikara is a place for green guys to ply their craft, and because many of the wrestlers are very green, they use over the top ridiculous characters to help mask that. So guys that come out of Quack's school have a ready made spot for them and have bookings right off the bat to help get their feet wet and go on to bigger careers elsewhere, while sticking around and being mainstay stars in the Chikara company.
My main issues is sometimes the selling and psychology isn't the best, but again, the guys are green, you can't expect them to wrestle like Bryan Danielson, lol. But it's definitely entertaining.
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Post by HMARK Center on Nov 20, 2007 22:47:55 GMT -5
I'm not big into CHIKARA, but I LOVE the way they present themselves.
It's over the top, it's gimmicky beyond belief, and rare is the time you should take it seriously. That's why it works; no preconceived notions about what it is. Hell, Bob Saget is the commissioner! And maybe my favorite gimmick of all, Dragon Dragon! How can you not mark for the Tail Swipe?
I can certainly see not wanting to invest too much money/time/whatever into CHIKARA, but there's enough entertaining talent there to enjoy what you see.
And the reason gimmicks there work and don't in places like WWE is mainly due to the way they are presented. On the indies, the performers are usually given the freedom to play around with their characters without fear from "the writers" or "Creative"; yeah, there's often a booker asking them to present themselves in some way, but we don't have to worry about scripted promos, pre-packaged characters, etc.
It makes it more authentic feeling, that even if the gimmick is over the top, it at least feels more "honest" and real, since it's coming straight from the performer, and not from the mind of Stephanie McMahon or Dutch Mantell. Add in how insanely over the top CHIKARA gimmicks can be, and it just feels like a bunch of people getting together to get silly and have a good time.
Again, I can certainly understand not getting too deep into it, but I don't see anything wrong with the way it's presented.
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Post by The OP on Nov 20, 2007 22:52:20 GMT -5
It makes it more authentic feeling, that even if the gimmick is over the top, it at least feels more "honest" and real, since it's coming straight from the performer, and not from the mind of Stephanie McMahon or Dutch Mantell. Add in how insanely over the top CHIKARA gimmicks can be, and it just feels like a bunch of people getting together to get silly and have a good time. . No offense, but that's a pretty lame explanation for what is clearly just a bias. You have no idea who in WWE is making something up and who is reading lines from a writer, and the same thing applies to CHIKARA. |
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Post by HMARK Center on Nov 20, 2007 23:27:56 GMT -5
It makes it more authentic feeling, that even if the gimmick is over the top, it at least feels more "honest" and real, since it's coming straight from the performer, and not from the mind of Stephanie McMahon or Dutch Mantell. Add in how insanely over the top CHIKARA gimmicks can be, and it just feels like a bunch of people getting together to get silly and have a good time. . No offense, but that's a pretty lame explanation for what is clearly just a bias. You have no idea who in WWE is making something up and who is reading lines from a writer, and the same thing applies to CHIKARA. Considering that almost everyone in WWE reads scripted promos, it's really not "bias". |
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