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Post by The Line on Nov 24, 2007 0:15:07 GMT -5
But I bet ROH could still sell out the Manhattan Center without announcing a single match ahead of time. They actually did that for Respect is Earned. Not one single match announced before the show and it sold out ahead of time. well thats a little different because its a PPV. I meant more of a "Straight to DVD" show.
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Post by Spankymac is sick of the swiss on Nov 24, 2007 0:16:06 GMT -5
In a random non-topic question, what the hell do the Hangman 3 have to do with the whole gang warfare deal? NRC and Vulture Squad don't like each other. AotF want to smurf everybody's day up. Then there's the Hangman 3 who..... well I'm not sure what they do. Anybody have an idea besides do something with BJ, Brent, and Pearce? I know they're feuding with Delirious and Steenerico right now, but I'm not sure what the actual purpose of their forming was. I think it was supposed to be a kind of swerve of thinking "Are these guys the AotF/Project 161/whatever?" then having them form a completely different stable.
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Post by Michael Coello on Nov 24, 2007 0:16:24 GMT -5
Hey, aren't there actually 4 guys in the Hangmen 3? I remember 3 guys hovering over Adam Peirce during the Edison show when he got helped out, the 2 guys in the tag, a guy who was managing.
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Post by Reverend BTY on Nov 24, 2007 0:17:12 GMT -5
Hey, aren't there actually 4 guys in the Hangmen 3? I remember 3 guys hovering over Adam Peirce during the Edison show when he got helped out, the 2 guys in the tag, a guy who was managing. Isn't the 4th Shane Hagadorn?
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Post by MGH on Nov 24, 2007 0:17:38 GMT -5
Oh, and more Silas Young. Just for the entrance theme ;D What's his intro? "Don't Stop Believing" - Journey
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Post by Spankymac is sick of the swiss on Nov 24, 2007 0:18:01 GMT -5
Hey, aren't there actually 4 guys in the Hangmen 3? I remember 3 guys hovering over Adam Peirce during the Edison show when he got helped out, the 2 guys in the tag, a guy who was managing. Yeah, Whitmer, Pierce, and Albright are the actual stable proper, then Hagadorn just kinda hangs out and manages.
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Post by Spankymac is sick of the swiss on Nov 24, 2007 0:18:22 GMT -5
"Don't Stop Believing" - Journey f***in' A right.
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Post by The Line on Nov 24, 2007 0:18:37 GMT -5
Hangmen's 3(or Hangm3n) is technically Albright, Pearce, and Whitmer. Hagadorn just follows Pearce around.
And they were formed because Pearce was giving those promo's about how Whitmer and he had given their bodies for Ring of Honor(especially in the CZW feud) and really didn't get the respect they thought they deserved. Albright agreed, I guess(I'm kinda fuzzy on why he's there exactly).
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Post by Reverend BTY on Nov 24, 2007 0:19:02 GMT -5
"Don't Stop Believing" - Journey I now have a new favorite wrestler. Journey= buys.
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Post by MGH on Nov 24, 2007 0:20:04 GMT -5
I'm a little baffled by the Hangm3n myself. Apparently the deal is that Pearce was able to brainwash Albright and Whitmer. I dig the stable as bruisers, but they don't really seem to have any direction since Steen is out until January and Delirious can only feud with them so long before that dies a painful death.
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Post by Reverend BTY on Nov 24, 2007 0:21:00 GMT -5
Speaking of which, doesn't Delirious just feud with every stable? Just kind of running in to fight for no reason.
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Post by Chuckie Finster on Nov 24, 2007 0:21:08 GMT -5
I'd like more of a variety of wrestling. It's getting better recently but for a while it was mostly the Americanized NOAH style with no-selling head drops, strikes and kicking out of everything under the sun.
I'd like a good gimmicked match every now and then that tells a great story without a 20-minute match.
And someone whose gimmick is to have "TV-style matches" and try to end it quickly and if they don't they try to leave and/or cheat to have the match over. I know Gabe could do it.
A true secondary title that never comes into contest with the World Title. Something guys that can't go for the World Title can fight for(or overly-gimmicked wrestlers). And call it the Western States Heritage Championship. (or just bring in the ICW/ICWA Texarkana Television Title)
And don't announce title matches ahead of other shows with title matches on them unless it's a doubleshot and try to put some doubt in it. I mean, did we really expect Cross and Aries to beat the Briscoes for the tag titles the night before the ladder war?
And have some single-show weekends every once in a while for the Hartfords, Daytons and Bostons of the world. A good number of them seem like throwaway shows to build up the next night.
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Post by ghettooverlord on Nov 24, 2007 0:21:39 GMT -5
3 things.... 1)Let Larry Sweeney wrestle. His style would piss the hardcore ROH fans off so much, it's ridiculous. 2)When he's not wrestling or managing, Larry Sweeney should be on color commentary. The guy's hilarious when you put a mic in front of him. 3)Whenever Larry Sweeney's not on screen, all the other wrestlers and commentators should be asking, "Where's Sweeney?" Great, great. Just leave them right there on the floor on your way out.
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Post by Reverend BTY on Nov 24, 2007 0:23:03 GMT -5
I'd like more of a variety of wrestling. It's getting better recently but for a while it was mostly the Americanized NOAH style with no-selling head drops, strikes and kicking out of everything under the sun. I'd like a good gimmicked match every now and then that tells a great story without a 20-minute match. And someone whose gimmick is to have "TV-style matches" and try to end it quickly and if they don't they try to leave and/or cheat to have the match over. I know Gabe could do it. A true secondary title that never comes into contest with the World Title. Something guys that can't go for the World Title can fight for(or overly-gimmicked wrestlers). And call it the Western States Heritage Championship. (or just bring in the ICW/ICWA Texarkana Television Title) And don't announce title matches ahead of other shows with title matches on them unless it's a doubleshot and try to put some doubt in it. I mean, did we really expect Cross and Aries to beat the Briscoes for the tag titles the night before the ladder war? Didn't Alvarez beat Sweeney for the ICW/ICWA title? I don't remember the results exactly.
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Post by Spankymac is sick of the swiss on Nov 24, 2007 0:23:22 GMT -5
Speaking of which, doesn't Delirious just feud with every stable? Just kind of running in to fight for no reason. He does seem to kind of get into it with any stable they don't really know quite what to do about. He kinda became a defacto Resilliance member when Aries was in exile to feud with the NRC.
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Post by Michael Coello on Nov 24, 2007 0:23:44 GMT -5
Speaking of which, doesn't Delirious just feud with every stable? Just kind of running in to fight for no reason. He's using Rhino's gimmick?
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Post by The Line on Nov 24, 2007 0:23:53 GMT -5
I'd like more of a variety of wrestling. It's getting better recently but for a while it was mostly the Americanized NOAH style with no-selling head drops, strikes and kicking out of everything under the sun. I'd like a good gimmicked match every now and then that tells a great story without a 20-minute match. And someone whose gimmick is to have "TV-style matches" and try to end it quickly and if they don't they try to leave and/or cheat to have the match over. I know Gabe could do it. A true secondary title that never comes into contest with the World Title. Something guys that can't go for the World Title can fight for(or overly-gimmicked wrestlers). And call it the Western States Heritage Championship. (or just bring in the ICW/ICWA Texarkana Television Title) And don't announce title matches ahead of other shows with title matches on them unless it's a doubleshot and try to put some doubt in it. I mean, did we really expect Cross and Aries to beat the Briscoes for the tag titles the night before the ladder war? Didn't Alvarez beat Sweeney for the ICW/ICWA title? I don't remember the results exactly. Yep. And now it should be known as the "Frank A Gotch. Collar and Elbow Mermorial Championship" or something.
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Post by Spankymac is sick of the swiss on Nov 24, 2007 0:24:00 GMT -5
I'd like more of a variety of wrestling. It's getting better recently but for a while it was mostly the Americanized NOAH style with no-selling head drops, strikes and kicking out of everything under the sun. I'd like a good gimmicked match every now and then that tells a great story without a 20-minute match. And someone whose gimmick is to have "TV-style matches" and try to end it quickly and if they don't they try to leave and/or cheat to have the match over. I know Gabe could do it. A true secondary title that never comes into contest with the World Title. Something guys that can't go for the World Title can fight for(or overly-gimmicked wrestlers). And call it the Western States Heritage Championship. (or just bring in the ICW/ICWA Texarkana Television Title) And don't announce title matches ahead of other shows with title matches on them unless it's a doubleshot and try to put some doubt in it. I mean, did we really expect Cross and Aries to beat the Briscoes for the tag titles the night before the ladder war? Didn't Alvarez beat Sweeney for the ICW/ICWA title? I don't remember the results exactly. Yeah, Alvarez is currently the holder of the belt, but Sweeney'll get it back sooner or later.
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Post by Reverend BTY on Nov 24, 2007 0:24:42 GMT -5
Didn't Alvarez beat Sweeney for the ICW/ICWA title? I don't remember the results exactly. Yep. And now it should be known as the "Frank A Gotch. Collar and Elbow Mermorial Championship" or something. The wrestling world needs more titles involving the name Frank A. Gotch.
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Post by MGH on Nov 24, 2007 0:25:22 GMT -5
Speaking of Delirious ... he desperately needs something new. A gimmick change, or a heel turn, or SOMETHING. With Rave gone I'd say Delirious is officially the stalest member of the roster right now. His pops aren't near what they used to be. They're trying to say the feud with the Hangm3n is transforming him in to a blood thirsty monster, so maybe this is it. I'll have to see, but for now I'm really tiring of the act. Which is weird, because in CHIKARA I still love him with Hallowicked. Maybe it's just because I've seen him against a majority of the roster in ROH.
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