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Post by The Line on Nov 24, 2007 0:27:04 GMT -5
Frank A. Gotch Memorial Collar & Elbow Pacific Coast Championship will be its full name, I guess.
Fun Fact young Spanky: Bryan Alvarez Trained Jack Evans
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Post by Spankymac is sick of the swiss on Nov 24, 2007 0:28:13 GMT -5
Speaking of Delirious ... he desperately needs something new. A gimmick change, or a heel turn, or SOMETHING. With Rave gone I'd say Delirious is officially the stalest member of the roster right now. His pops aren't near what they used to be. They're trying to say the feud with the Hangm3n is transforming him in to a blood thirsty monster, so maybe this is it. I'll have to see, but for now I'm really tiring of the act. Which is weird, because in CHIKARA I still love him with Hallowicked. Maybe it's just because I've seen him against a majority of the roster in ROH. I just don't see how they can do a Delirious heel turn without him either taking off the mask or becoming completely serious, which takes away most of his appeal, in my opinion. I know they apparently did it right in FIP, where I was shocked to learn Delirious had had a heel run, but I'm just not sure how it would play.
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Post by Spankymac is sick of the swiss on Nov 24, 2007 0:28:54 GMT -5
Frank A. Gotch Memorial Collar & Elbow Pacific Coast Championship will be its full name, I guess. Fun Fact young Spanky: Bryan Alvarez Trained Jack Evans Now you're just being a dick.
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Post by Reverend BTY on Nov 24, 2007 0:29:25 GMT -5
Speaking of Delirious ... he desperately needs something new. A gimmick change, or a heel turn, or SOMETHING. With Rave gone I'd say Delirious is officially the stalest member of the roster right now. His pops aren't near what they used to be. They're trying to say the feud with the Hangm3n is transforming him in to a blood thirsty monster, so maybe this is it. I'll have to see, but for now I'm really tiring of the act. Which is weird, because in CHIKARA I still love him with Hallowicked. Maybe it's just because I've seen him against a majority of the roster in ROH. I can see a heel Delirious working. Give him a heel manager as a mouthpiece that can order him around and such. Another suggestion would be some west coast expansion. I know the Cow Palace show bombed but it's the flippin Cow Palace. Lets say the convention did go well, they still aren't gonna make back their money. I think they could set their mark more if they had west coast shows in the places PWG hold their shows. I mean, you'd think that going to Japan would be a bit harder than Arizona or Cali.
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Post by Reverend BTY on Nov 24, 2007 0:30:39 GMT -5
Frank A. Gotch Memorial Collar & Elbow Pacific Coast Championship will be its full name, I guess. Fun Fact young Spanky: Bryan Alvarez Trained Jack Evans The real question is do you want people to know that you taught everything Jack Evans knows about the basics??? There's a Chinese riddle for ya.
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Post by The Line on Nov 24, 2007 0:31:08 GMT -5
Speaking of Delirious ... he desperately needs something new. A gimmick change, or a heel turn, or SOMETHING. With Rave gone I'd say Delirious is officially the stalest member of the roster right now. His pops aren't near what they used to be. They're trying to say the feud with the Hangm3n is transforming him in to a blood thirsty monster, so maybe this is it. I'll have to see, but for now I'm really tiring of the act. Which is weird, because in CHIKARA I still love him with Hallowicked. Maybe it's just because I've seen him against a majority of the roster in ROH. I can see a heel Delirious working. Give him a heel manager as a mouthpiece that can order him around and such. Another suggestion would be some west coast expansion. I know the Cow Palace show bombed but it's the flippin Cow Palace. Lets say the convention did go well, they still aren't gonna make back their money. I think they could set their mark more if they had west coast shows in the places PWG hold their shows. I mean, you'd think that going to Japan would be a bit harder than Arizona or Cali. Sadly(especially for guys like me), I think the West Coast Double-shot fiasco is going to stunt any ROH western expansion. Its a shame. I think a Portland/Seattle doubleshot would be awesome.
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Post by Spankymac is sick of the swiss on Nov 24, 2007 0:32:23 GMT -5
I can see a heel Delirious working. Give him a heel manager as a mouthpiece that can order him around and such. Another suggestion would be some west coast expansion. I know the Cow Palace show bombed but it's the flippin Cow Palace. Lets say the convention did go well, they still aren't gonna make back their money. I think they could set their mark more if they had west coast shows in the places PWG hold their shows. I mean, you'd think that going to Japan would be a bit harder than Arizona or Cali. Sadly(especially for guys like me), I think the West Coast Double-shot fiasco is going to stunt any ROH western expansion. Its a shame. I think a Portland/Seattle doubleshot would be awesome. And I'm probably never gonna get my dream Atlanta ROH show because my state politicians are dipshits when it comes to knowing about the business. Not sure if that's politics or not, if so tell me and I'll delete it, but I needed to say it.
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Post by The Line on Nov 24, 2007 0:33:39 GMT -5
i doubt you'll get anyone to disagree with you Spank. Its a shame, because I think an Atlanta show/double shot could be good(as long as the sanctions aren't passed)
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Post by cartern923 on Nov 24, 2007 0:35:05 GMT -5
I can see a heel Delirious working. Give him a heel manager as a mouthpiece that can order him around and such. Another suggestion would be some west coast expansion. I know the Cow Palace show bombed but it's the flippin Cow Palace. Lets say the convention did go well, they still aren't gonna make back their money. I think they could set their mark more if they had west coast shows in the places PWG hold their shows. I mean, you'd think that going to Japan would be a bit harder than Arizona or Cali. Sadly(especially for guys like me), I think the West Coast Double-shot fiasco is going to stunt any ROH western expansion. Its a shame. I think a Portland/Seattle doubleshot would be awesome. As much I as love ROH, I think they learned what many other promotions have learned, those wrestling conventions are always too good to be true. Why they thought it would be a good idea to run the Cow Palace is beyond me. WrestleFest sounded like the coolest thing on Earth, but like most people thought, it turned out to be mostly worthless. I would also like a heel Delirious Can someone answer a question for me??? Didn't Pearce send Albright to attack Whitmer at the end of Driven...what happened to that.
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Post by MGH on Nov 24, 2007 0:35:34 GMT -5
This isn't one I'd suggest as I'm not sure about the ins and outs of their DVD business, but I think some box sets of sorts would be cool. The Milestone Series or FYF available as a block for a certain price. Maybe you could do that with memorable three show stretches over time like the Joe/Punk trilogy, or the 3rd Anniversary Celebration triple shot.
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Post by Reverend BTY on Nov 24, 2007 0:36:19 GMT -5
Sadly(especially for guys like me), I think the West Coast Double-shot fiasco is going to stunt any ROH western expansion. Its a shame. I think a Portland/Seattle doubleshot would be awesome. As much I as love ROH, I think they learned what many other promotions have learned, those wrestling conventions are always too good to be true. Why they thought it would be a good idea to run the Cow Palace is beyond me. WrestleFest sounded like the coolest thing on Earth, but like most people thought, it turned out to be mostly worthless. I would also like a heel Delirious Can someone answer a question for me??? Didn't Pearce send Albright to attack Whitmer at the end of Driven...what happened to that. Like in real life, ass kicking= bonding. No seriously, it works.
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Post by The Line on Nov 24, 2007 0:38:01 GMT -5
This isn't one I'd suggest as I'm not sure about the ins and outs of their DVD business, but I think some box sets of sorts would be cool. The Milestone Series or FYF available as a block for a certain price. Maybe you could do that with memorable three show stretches over time like the Joe/Punk trilogy, or the 3rd Anniversary Celebration triple shot. I've said that quite a few times. Great minds, ya know! But yeah, it would be a great business model I think(especially for newer fans). You could put: The Joe/Punk Trilogy The Milestone Series The FYF The Summer of Punk The First 6 PPVs and whatever else.
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Post by drjayphd (feat. Pitbull) on Nov 24, 2007 0:39:42 GMT -5
And have some single-show weekends every once in a while for the Hartfords, Daytons and Bostons of the world. A good number of them seem like throwaway shows to build up the next night. Seconded, motion passed as recess appointment. Seriously, everything in Hartford feels like an appetizer for an NYC show, not the pinnacle of that weekend.
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Post by MGH on Nov 24, 2007 0:40:07 GMT -5
I have another that's bothered me for awhile, the website. ROH is still an indy, but they're on PPV and now have an ever expanding fan base. You have to search to find a roster page, and CHIKARA's is about 1000x more informative than ROH's. The newswires don't get posted for full days sometimes after being posted on the message board, the results page can fall behind by 5-6 shows sometimes, the cards and talent rosters don't get updated timely a lot of the time.... Those little kind of things matter. And have some single-show weekends every once in a while for the Hartfords, Daytons and Bostons of the world. A good number of them seem like throwaway shows to build up the next night. Agreed.
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Post by Spankymac is sick of the swiss on Nov 24, 2007 0:41:28 GMT -5
Yeah, ROH RE-HE-HEALLY has to work on their webpage.
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Post by The Line on Nov 24, 2007 0:41:38 GMT -5
I have another that's bothered me for awhile, the website. ROH is still an indy, but they're on PPV and now have an ever expanding fan base. You have to search to find a roster page, and CHIKARA's is about 1000x more informative than ROH's. The newswires don't get posted for full days sometimes after being posted on the message board, the results page can fall behind by 5-6 shows sometimes, the cards and talent rosters don't get updated timely a lot of the time.... Those little kind of things matter. once again, agreed. They need to hire someone who's only job is being webmaster. And if there is someone who's exclusive job is doing this, well, they need to do better!
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Post by Joekishi on Nov 24, 2007 0:41:53 GMT -5
Better announcing, never let Gabe Sapolsky voice hype videos.
Seriously just hire Paul Heyman to do those hype videos.
come on it'd be awesome
"THIS IS RING OF HONOR DRIVEN!"
Heck even Put Paul Heyman as lead announcer.
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Post by The Line on Nov 24, 2007 0:42:30 GMT -5
this thread has been about 100x more productive than I ever would have imagined.
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Post by Reverend BTY on Nov 24, 2007 0:47:27 GMT -5
Better announcing, never let Gabe Sapolsky voice hype videos. Seriously just hire Paul Heyman to do those hype videos. come on it'd be awesome "THIS IS RING OF HONOR DRIVEN!" Heck even Put Paul Heyman as lead announcer. Agreed. I think Heyman could be something that could make things feel familiar yet new. If that makes sense. You could put: The Joe/Punk Trilogy The Milestone Series The FYF The Summer of Punk The First 6 PPVs and whatever else.[/quote] The CZW/ROH feud (I'm not sure how many, if any, are in the Milestone Series) Best of International Talent (The AJPW show, a variety of Dragon Gate involved shows, the Japan shows)
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Post by Mr T L Wolf on Nov 24, 2007 0:49:18 GMT -5
Better announcing, never let Gabe Sapolsky voice hype videos. Seriously just hire Paul Heyman to do those hype videos. come on it'd be awesome "THIS IS RING OF HONOR DRIVEN!" Heck even Put Paul Heyman as lead announcer. Agreed. I think Heyman could be something that could make things feel familiar yet new. If that makes sense. *Obligatory Paul Heyman/Accounting Joke*
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