EAT IT
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Post by EAT IT on Dec 1, 2008 1:28:35 GMT -5
Let me ask you this question Why do you think Florida is going to beat Alabama? I think Florida is not only going to beat Bama, they're going to win big. Alabama just doesn't have the offense to hang with Florida. This is a Bama team that should have lost to LSU. Hell they won, because of Jarrett Lee. Tim Tebow is slightly better. There's just way too much fire power on Florida for Bama to keep up offensively. Nah.
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andrew8798
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Post by andrew8798 on Dec 1, 2008 1:32:52 GMT -5
Network/Basic Cable Schedule
THURSDAY Louisville at Rutgers, 7:30/4:30 PM, ESPN
FRIDAY MAC Championship: Buffalo vs. #12 Ball State, 8:00/5:00 PM, ESPN2
SATURDAY Navy vs. Army, Noon/9:00 AM, CBS ACC Championship: #17 Boston College vs. #25 Virginia Tech, 1:00 PM/10:00 AM, ABC #23 Pittsburgh at Connecticut, Noon/9:00 AM, ESPN Conference USA Championship: East Carolina at Tulsa, Noon/9:00 AM, ESPN2
Washington at California, 3:00 PM/Noon, FSN SEC Championship: #1 Alabama vs. #4 Florida, 4:00/1:00 PM, CBS Division II Semifinal: North Alabama at Northwest Missouri State, 4:00/1:00 PM, ESPN2 #5 USC at UCLA, 4:30/1:30 PM, ABC
Big XII Championship: #20 Missouri vs. #2 Oklahoma, 8:00/5:00 PM, ABC Arizona State at Arizona, 8:00/5:00 PM, ESPN South Florida at West Virginia, 8:00/5:00 PM, ESPN2
#13 Cincinnati at Hawaii, 11:30/8:30 PM, ESPN2
Digital Cable/Satellite/GamePlan Schedule
SATURDAY Division II Semifinal: Minnesota-Duluth at California (PA), Noon/9:00 AM, ESPN Classic FCS Quarterfinal: Richmond at Appalachian State, Noon/9:00 AM, GP FCS Quarterfinal: Weber State at Montana, 2:00 PM/11:00 AM, GP FCS Quarterfinal: Villanova at James Madison, 3:30/12:30 PM, GP Arkansas State at Troy, 7:00/4:00 PM, GP FCS Quarterfinal: New Hampshire at Northern Iowa, 7:00/4:00 PM, GP
All Other Division I-A Games
WEDNESDAY Middle Tennessee at Louisiana-Lafayette, ESPN360
SATURDAY Western Kentucky at FIU
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Jobes
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Post by Jobes on Dec 1, 2008 9:21:53 GMT -5
No way could a still undefeated SEC team not get to advance to the title game. Auburn. 2004.
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Post by Jedi-El of Tomorrow on Dec 1, 2008 9:41:26 GMT -5
No way could a still undefeated SEC team not get to advance to the title game. Auburn. 2004. Yeah, but Alabama's non-conference schedule is slightly better than Auburn's was in 2004. That and Oklahoma's win over Texas is what kept Auburn out, that non-conference schedule was a f***ing joke. They scheduled The Citadel.
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Hanzo
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Post by Hanzo on Dec 1, 2008 9:59:21 GMT -5
that non-conference schedule was a snorking joke. They scheduled The Citadel. Heh. Florida played against The Citadel a couple of weeks ago.
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Post by Jedi-El of Tomorrow on Dec 1, 2008 10:33:23 GMT -5
that non-conference schedule was a snorking joke. They scheduled The Citadel. Heh. Florida played against The Citadel a couple of weeks ago. They also played Florida State and Miami. Auburn that year, had Citadel, Louisiana Tech and Louisiana Monroe. They played no one from a BCS conference.
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Crappler El 0 M
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Post by Crappler El 0 M on Dec 1, 2008 10:41:45 GMT -5
No way could a still undefeated SEC team not get to advance to the title game. Auburn. 2004. I guess I should have meant that they wouldn't allow that this year, because this year Alabama is the only undefeated schools other than Utah and Boise State. IF there happened to be a number of BCS schools (like for example USC and Ohio State and Oklahoma) that were still undefeated, then the Auburn-2004 scenario could happen again. However, this year we don't have that.
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Post by Koda, Master Crunchyroller on Dec 1, 2008 11:34:49 GMT -5
I guess I should have meant that they wouldn't allow that this[/y] year, because this year Alabama is the only undefeated schools other than Utah and Boise State. IF there happened to be a number of BCS schools (like for example USC and Ohio State and Oklahoma) that were still undefeated, then the Auburn-2004 scenario could happen again. However, this year we don't have that.Don't forget Ball State! They be undefeated too.
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Post by andrew8798 on Dec 1, 2008 14:51:31 GMT -5
According to ESPN sources, Texas Tech quarterback Graham Harrell had 17 pins and two plates inserted in his left (non-throwing) hand on Sunday.
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Post by andrew8798 on Dec 1, 2008 14:51:42 GMT -5
Stephen Garcia will get the start at quarterback for South Carolina's upcoming bowl game. The most likely destination appears to be the Outback Bowl on Jan. 1st against a Big Ten foe.
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Post by andrew8798 on Dec 1, 2008 14:51:56 GMT -5
ESPN senior NFL analyst Chris Mortensen is reporting that Tampa Bay defensive coordinator Monte Kiffin will follow his son Lane to the University of Tennessee.
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Post by The Wraith on Dec 1, 2008 15:01:41 GMT -5
According to ESPN sources, Texas Tech quarterback Graham Harrell had 17 pins and two plates inserted in his left (non-throwing) hand on Sunday. For those who want the whole story....apparently he had nine separate breaks in his 2 fingers.
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Post by ani on Dec 1, 2008 23:02:36 GMT -5
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Dec 1, 2008 23:32:48 GMT -5
According to ESPN sources, Texas Tech quarterback Graham Harrell had 17 pins and two plates inserted in his left (non-throwing) hand on Sunday. For those who want the whole story....apparently he had nine separate breaks in his 2 fingers. [/quote] Good grief, I bet his hand sounded like Zod's in Superman II when Supes regained his powers.
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Post by Lupin the Third on Dec 2, 2008 0:56:28 GMT -5
I was watching ATH today on ESPN, and J.A. Adande said it best when he said that this whole "each week is a playoff" crap needs to stop.
Texas beat Oklahoma earlier, but Oklahoma is advancing to the Big 12 Title game? Like he said, it's like team A beats team B in the first round, but team B advances for complicated reasons. It shows not only how flawed the BCS is, but how flawed the Big 12 tie-breakers are. In the other conferences that have conference title games, Texas would've went to the title game.
With that being said, here would be my plan to eradicate the BCS and put in a playoff for Division 1-A football:
1) Combine some conferences so that all of the conferences would have 12 teams, except for one conference, which will have 11, but they can still have a conference championship, IMO. Here's how I kinda figured it:
Big East Army Cincinnati Conneticut Florida Atlantic Florida Int. Louisville Navy Pittsburgh Rutgers South Florida Syracuse West Virginia
Big Ten Illinois Indiana Iowa Michigan Michigan St. Minnesota Northwestern Notre Dame Ohio St. Penn St. Purdue Wisconsin
Pac 10 Arizona Arizona St. California Hawaii (moved here since they seemed to be pretty much pacific) Oregon Oregon St. San Jose St. (same as Hawaii) Stanford UCLA USC Washington Washington St.
WAC Arkansas St. Boise St. Fresno St. Idaho LA Lafayette LA Monroe Louisiana Tech Nevada New Mexico St. Utah St. West. Kentucky Troy
MWC Air Force BYU Colorado St. Middle Tenn. St. New Mexico North Texas San Diego St. TCU UNLV Utah Wyoming
As for the other conferences, keep them the same, as they already have 12.
Now I know what you're thinking. Speed, there's no way that Notre Dame will ever join a conference, as they have this power and wealth and don't feel they need to join a conference. Well, the NCAA needs to tell them to cram it and join a conference, otherwise, they lose their special BCS bowl privilege when they don't suck.
Also, you're probably asking me where the Sun Belt Conference went. Well, I got rid of it. Sorry to all the fans of Sun Belt schools, but no one gives a crap about the Sun Belt. It's just how it is.
And the other thing you're probably saying is, "Speed, the Pac 10 and the Big 10 can't be called that anymore since there are 12 teams in them now." Why should they change their names now? The Big 10 is still the Big 10 even with 11 teams. Plus, they'd probably feel the same anyways since there'd probably be 2 teams each year not being even CLOSE to winning the crown.
2)Have a playoff system planned out. Now I know a lot of you have said that an 8-team playoff system wouldn't stop the whining and solve anything, and I agree. However, I feel that 8 teams aren't enough anyways. It has to be a minimum of 16 teams.
How to determine the 16 teams? We can go two ways:
A) The top 16 ranked teams make the playoffs, using either the AP Poll, the Coaches Poll, or some weird combination like the BCS Standings. This way we'd have what is figured to be the 16 best teams in the nation fighting for the National Championship.
B) Like NCAA Basketball, each conference champion gets an automatic bid to the playoffs, and have 6 teams that are ranked the highest be wild card berths. Yeah, this one might be flawed as some conferences might not be as strong as others, but it'd give the possibility of maybe a Cinderella team winning it all.
3) For all the teams that have 6 or more wins in a season but didn't make the playoffs, they can still go to a postseason bowl game that'll get them money for the school (or conference, I'm not completely sure how that works). For the amount of games in a season, they can probably move it down to 11 regular season games, then the conference championship game.
Now I know there'd be way more details that need to be settled, but I feel that this would be a start.
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Post by Drillbit Taylor on Dec 2, 2008 1:13:39 GMT -5
Yea I had a list somewhere like that. I will see if I can Find It.
But I do not think a Playoff Per Say is the solution. Mine is Move Cotton Bowl back up to a Major and possibally another.
You do a NASCAR type cut off with the Remaining teams. You have all the Bowl Games, with the top rated teams. You have a multi Tierd voting thing after those bowl games.
THEN the Top Two rated play in the BCS Game.
Not much better. But they need to ease into a playoff.
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H-Fist
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Post by H-Fist on Dec 2, 2008 2:46:26 GMT -5
First step: follow the basketball tourney's lead and grant one automatic bid to each conference, providing for 11 bids. Thirteen "wild-card" berths will be allotted for independents and non-champion teams with at least 7 wins. Conference champions will be determined in a uniform way, such that the regular season ends on the same day, and all teams in Div I-Bowl Series will play 11 regular season games. Preferably, there will be no conference championships. There is NO reason why OU, UT, or TTU should risk losing their season against a Mizzou team that would be either 4th or 5th in the South division. The tournament is seeded such that 9 plays 24, 10 plays 23, and so on, with higher seeded teams having home field for the opening round and quarter final. The top 8 teams (either the Big Six conference champs and top two ranked champions of non-power conferences, or top 8 champions, no matter their conference affiliation) would receive a bye to round number two. The three conference champions outside of the top 8 would be seeded along with the wild card teams, such that the Sun Belt would probably be 24th annually. To win the National Championship, a team would have to play 15 or 16 games, depending on seeding. This would make the final quarter of the season Must-Win, while allowing really good teams to stumble in September and make it back. If this plan were in position this season, it would look something like: 1. Alabama vs. winner of 16/17 2. Texas vs. winner of 15/18 3. Penn State vs. winner of 14/19 4. Southern California vs. winner of 13/20 5. Utah vs. winner of 12/21 6. Boise State vs. winner of 11/22 7. Ball State vs. winner of 10/23 8. Cincinnati vs. winner of 9/24
9. Oklahoma vs. 24. Troy 10. Florida vs. 23. Tulsa 11. Texas Tech vs. 22. Oregon State 12. Ohio State vs. 21. Missouri 13. Texas Christian vs. 20. Oregon 14. Oklahoma State vs. 19. Michigan State 15. Georgia Tech vs. 18. Brigham Young 16. Georgia vs. 17. Boston College Let's say the seeds hold in the opening round: Alabama vs. Georgia Cincinnati vs. Oklahoma USC vs. TCU Utah vs. Ohio State Penn State vs. OkSU Boise State vs. TTU Ball State vs. Florida Texas vs. Georgia Tech ___ Bama vs. OU USC vs. Utah PSU vs. BSU UF vs. UT Tell me that that wouldn't provide a sweet Elite Eight, while also allowing for very good teams like Oklahoma State or Ball State to prove how good they are against a great opponent. I am opposed to re-seeding between rounds for two reasons. One, it prevents teams from scouting ahead of time and having assistants working on gameplans 10-14 days in advance. Second, is not for gambling purposes.
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Hanzo
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Post by Hanzo on Dec 2, 2008 22:36:52 GMT -5
Would a Boise State vs. Ball State game be out of the question? I would love to see that.
Boise State vs. TCU would be good too.
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Hanzo
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Post by Hanzo on Dec 2, 2008 22:48:14 GMT -5
Here's a 16 team playoff by Yahoo's Dan Wetzel:
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keithsells
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Post by keithsells on Dec 2, 2008 23:11:05 GMT -5
So, FL gets Cinci but alabama gets troy? awesome! I think that bracket needs alot of work.
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