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Post by ChitownKnight on Jan 3, 2009 18:19:23 GMT -5
Personally, I think the defining moment was Cena showing up and winning the Rumble last year. Even though he didn't really get the "superman" push for the rest of that run, it was still a slap in the face to all the workers who busted their asses for the previous six months (Orton, Jeff, etc), any of whom deserved to win it and get that title shot. Orton and Jeff were IN the WWE title match
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Post by Aziraphale on Jan 3, 2009 18:49:17 GMT -5
DX shilling WWEShop.com
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Post by Robbymac on Jan 3, 2009 18:50:30 GMT -5
Personally, I think the defining moment was Cena showing up and winning the Rumble last year. Even though he didn't really get the "superman" push for the rest of that run, it was still a slap in the face to all the workers who busted their asses for the previous six months (Orton, Jeff, etc), any of whom deserved to win it and get that title shot. But no... we're going to drop it into Cena's lap IMMEDIATELY upon returning. I don't wish harm on anyone and don't relish in anybody's injury, but the show got infinitely more interesting when Cena was out with that injury. Orton REALLY stepped up his game in Cena's absence, and it pissed me off that WWE felt we needed "saving" by the almighty Cena. And I even mark for Cena from time to time. I think he can cut an awesome promo, and I'm warming up to his in-ring style (which I think has gotten better compared to 3 years ago). But as soon as he's back, the show just HAD to revolve around him. What a complete and utter load of garbage. Him returning and winning the Rumble was one of the biggest markout moments ever. As was said Orton or Jeff were in the title match to begin with, and if it wasn't Cena it would have been HHH. As it turned it both of them got to Wrestlemania anyway. John Cena is the number one draw and most over guy in wrestling. And its not even close. Every single year he is healthy he WILL main event Wrestlemania. Deal with it. Its not about "who earned it" or "who paid their dues" Its about who is going to make them the most money. Period.
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Post by hughmorris on Jan 3, 2009 20:47:54 GMT -5
The defining moment was when Y2J came back to save the WWE! Or when we witnessed the era of Adamle...
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Post by vampyur on Jan 3, 2009 20:51:02 GMT -5
"Git git git!"
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Post by jfpierce on Jan 3, 2009 20:58:53 GMT -5
It has to be Chris Benoit's murder/suicide.
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Post by Loki on Jan 3, 2009 21:03:36 GMT -5
What's "This Era" exactly?
The Brand Split Era? The WWE Era (post name change)? The post-Rock/Austin Era? The Triple H Era? The New New Generation Era?
It's kinda hard picking a defining moment without having a defined timeframe to scout
I consider the Current Era starting with Road to WrestleMania XX [out went all the big names of the Attitude Era, and a new line of workers began to get more prominent roles]
But even with a quasi-clear timeframe, I'm having an hard time coming up with The Moment. There isn't a Hogan-slamming-Andre, a Warrior-pinning-Hogan, or an Austin 3:16.
There are a bunch of Important Moments, but almost none of them has changed the course of the events, planned or unplanned, enough to define a New Era.
Batista and Cena defeating Trips maybe? Edge in one of his surprise wins? Flair retiring? Nahh all of those are important, but in a "Macho Man wins at WMIV" capacity. Important events but not something that changes the WWE landscape.
As sad as it is, so far the defining moment involves Eddie and Benoit. And even more sadly, it's NOT their celebration at MSG...
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Post by Nic Nemeth on Jan 3, 2009 21:07:24 GMT -5
Benoit killing his family.
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Post by @TenaciousBe on Jan 3, 2009 21:27:22 GMT -5
But it was so cheap. Putting him in as the final entrant, as though we're supposed to believe that he just happened to draw that number. Obviously set up, even in a kayfabe manner, for him to walk in and take an easy win.
Cena IS a main even guy no matter what -- which is even more reason for him NOT to come in and win the Rumble. It's a waste. You could take the time to elevate somebody else into the main even picture, even for a short-term program, and still keep Cena in that main even picture. But no... as soon as Cena's back, nobody else matters. THAT's the load of garbage.
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Post by TheKillShot on Jan 3, 2009 21:30:45 GMT -5
Everytime I think of Benoit now, I think of the song "Leave out all the Rest".
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Post by Nacho STAYS Hyped on Jan 3, 2009 21:53:54 GMT -5
Chavo vs. Punk: The Gulf of Mexico Match
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Post by El Hijo De Slapnuts on Jan 3, 2009 21:59:38 GMT -5
I find it sad that the screwup of a person outside of the ring is something that can define(or plague) and era
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Post by Bam Neeley on Jan 3, 2009 22:09:02 GMT -5
Santino Marella does the Melina entrance
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Post by Robbymac on Jan 3, 2009 22:10:47 GMT -5
But it was so cheap. Putting him in as the final entrant, as though we're supposed to believe that he just happened to draw that number. Obviously set up, even in a kayfabe manner, for him to walk in and take an easy win. Cena IS a main even guy no matter what -- which is even more reason for him NOT to come in and win the Rumble. It's a waste. You could take the time to elevate somebody else into the main even picture, even for a short-term program, and still keep Cena in that main even picture. But no... as soon as Cena's back, nobody else matters. THAT's the load of garbage. Sometimes as wrestling fans we become too smart for our own good. This is one of those times. First of all everyone knows wrestling is a show. Those who don't realize its a show aren't smart enough to think "gee how convenient he drew #30" Now then, wrestling being a show, you save your surprise, cliffhanger, gotcha ending for the end. Thats what they did. Having him come out anywhere BUT #30 would have taken away from the moment. Also if you're gonna bring Cena back at the Rumble then he HAS to win it. Having him come back in the shocker of all shocker just to get tossed by HHH, who was the only guy who could have won that thing, would have been completely pointless. If he's not gonna win it then you don't even bring him back. As for "elevating" someone it did. The way everything played out after the Rumble elevated Randy Orton. Think about it what makes a bigger star out of Orton. Beating CM Punk or Jeff Hardy, or winning a triple threat against the two biggest stars in the company? Keeping in mind where we were in January 2008, and who the participants were in the match, who would you have suggest winning? The only guy in the Royal Rumble who was even remotely ready for elevation was CM Punk. But even then he was in ECW feuding with Chavo Guerrero at the time. And you want him to win the Royal Rumble and immediately enter a main event program with Randy Orton? For Wrestlemania? When HHH and John Cena are both healthy? That what makes no sense. Its your biggest show of the year. Its not the kind of show where you try a couple new guys in the main event. Just for kicks, I'd like to find out how you would have booked the Rumble, and then the road to Wrestlemania. Just a hunch, but I'm guessing that it would either signifigantly take away from the elevation of Orton, or it really wouldn't have elevated the guy because all he would have done was face a not yet established Randy Orton.
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Post by Dave at the Movies on Jan 3, 2009 23:49:37 GMT -5
This picture says so damn much about wrestling for this era Wait you mean this era is going to kill wrestling? *backs out of thread slowly*
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Post by Mozenrath on Jan 3, 2009 23:57:45 GMT -5
HBK facing John Cena at Wrestlemania, going for as long as it did, and Cena winning.
I think this is when I said, even after he had achieved what he had, and before later achievements, that Cena had really made it, and I stand by that. There is no reasonable excuse to not consider Cena to have solidified his spot.
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Post by The OP on Jan 4, 2009 0:03:05 GMT -5
Randy Orton punting Mr. Cena.
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Post by Hanz Moleman on Jan 4, 2009 0:11:28 GMT -5
Once again, I say that its not quite an era yet, if it is, its a short lived transitional period.If anything this is the wellness era.
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Post by The OP on Jan 4, 2009 0:13:01 GMT -5
I don't like the Wellness Era. We should call it the Punting Era.
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Post by Bob Schlapowitz on Jan 4, 2009 0:15:02 GMT -5
The WWE Era (post name change)? What name change? Don't you watch any dvds or 24/7? It's NEVER been called anything other than WWE! They just had really bad camera equipment between 1998 and 2002!
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