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Post by Mozenrath on Feb 10, 2009 13:25:03 GMT -5
Sorry if some find the sig disturbing. I'm keeping it, though, because it makes me laugh, it was time for a new sig anyway, and I've had a number of compliments on it.
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Post by Johawn on Feb 10, 2009 13:48:18 GMT -5
Sooo...what happened? I've been in Amsterdam Nah, I get the jist. I just wanted to say how awesome it is to have a huge thread like this with no flaming (that I've seen anyway).
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Post by Deleted on Feb 10, 2009 14:16:00 GMT -5
Sooo...what happened? I've been in Amsterdam Nah, I get the jist. I just wanted to say how awesome it is to have a huge thread like this with no flaming (that I've seen anyway). It's been very, very civil despite having a vast chasm of differences between two camps. Dare I say it, I think that the tragedy of Benoit helped set the tone for how well we could all discuss an incredibly sensitive (and heart-wrenching) topic.
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Post by Mozenrath on Feb 10, 2009 14:29:39 GMT -5
Sooo...what happened? I've been in Amsterdam Nah, I get the jist. I just wanted to say how awesome it is to have a huge thread like this with no flaming (that I've seen anyway). Well, there seems to have been SOME, but mods have done a good job drawing the battle lines.
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Post by The Rabbi on Feb 10, 2009 14:38:46 GMT -5
IMHO, I think Jericho is in the right here. I dont care what happens, if some anonymous person disrespects me by spitting on my head from behind, when I turn around to deck that person, it's not gonna stop because she's a girl.
However, I think Jericho was too heated. because I THOUGHT I heard him say "Ill f***ign Kill You" at some point during that video, and I KNOW I heard hims creaming at Security about doing their job and how this wouldnt happen if they were doing their job.
I think he shoulda decked the shit out her boyfriend too.
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Post by Mozenrath on Feb 10, 2009 14:53:28 GMT -5
IMHO, I think Jericho is in the right here. I dont care what happens, if some anonymous person disrespects me by spitting on my head from behind, when I turn around to deck that person, it's not gonna stop because she's a girl. However, I think Jericho was too heated. because I THOUGHT I heard him say "Ill snorkign Kill You" at some point during that video, and I KNOW I heard hims creaming at Security about doing their job and how this wouldnt happen if they were doing their job. I think he shoulda decked the excretory matter out her boyfriend too. Well, he did punch another guy, didn't he? I think they could of been with her.
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Post by The Rabbi on Feb 10, 2009 14:54:57 GMT -5
IMHO, I think Jericho is in the right here. I dont care what happens, if some anonymous person disrespects me by spitting on my head from behind, when I turn around to deck that person, it's not gonna stop because she's a girl. However, I think Jericho was too heated. because I THOUGHT I heard him say "Ill snorkign Kill You" at some point during that video, and I KNOW I heard hims creaming at Security about doing their job and how this wouldnt happen if they were doing their job. I think he shoulda decked the excretory matter out her boyfriend too. Well, he did punch another guy, didn't he? I think they could of been with her. Punching the guy and knocking the crap out of him is different. You can punch someone without hurting them, to knock the crap out of them, or knock them out....thats better. He didnt knock him out though, enbcause that guy was back up and coming back for more like an idiot in just a few seconds, all the while that one stupid girl screamin "Can I have Your Picture" Repeatedly. If I was Jericho, ida punched HER too.
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Post by jerichoholic on Feb 10, 2009 16:11:46 GMT -5
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Post by Dr. Bunsen Honeydew on Feb 10, 2009 17:10:11 GMT -5
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Post by Mr Kimura on Feb 10, 2009 17:31:31 GMT -5
This happened all the time in the old days, this shouldn't be so shocking.
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Post by jerichoholic on Feb 10, 2009 17:45:46 GMT -5
Ok, after that, he clearly sees it's a woman before he punches her. I dont think he knew it was a woman until his fist connected. He brings an arm up to defend himself, and starts bringing his fist around mid turn. No chance to see who it was until after the fact. He saw it was a woman when he swatted her hand away with his other hand. I am a huge Jericho fan as is evidenced by my screen name, however, I clearly saw Chris not only hit her but spit on her earlier in the tape. That is not cool at all. I love Chris but it was wrong.
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Post by Mozenrath on Feb 10, 2009 18:01:13 GMT -5
This happened all the time in the old days, this shouldn't be so shocking. True, like Inoki and others would show.
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Post by Miss RKO on Feb 10, 2009 18:10:14 GMT -5
Jericho probably thought he was thumping HBK's wife again
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Post by Cretinous Humanoid on Feb 10, 2009 18:24:01 GMT -5
I dont think he knew it was a woman until his fist connected. He brings an arm up to defend himself, and starts bringing his fist around mid turn. No chance to see who it was until after the fact. He saw it was a woman when he swatted her hand away with his other hand. I am a huge Jericho fan as is evidenced by my screen name, however, I clearly saw Chris not only hit her but spit on her earlier in the tape. That is not cool at all. I love Chris but it was wrong. I still haven't been able to spot the spitting on the video. Can anyone point out where it happens?
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Post by Mr Kimura on Feb 10, 2009 18:27:26 GMT -5
This happened all the time in the old days, this shouldn't be so shocking. True, like Inoki and others would show. Blassie had f***in acid thrown on him. Jericho has it easy.
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Post by Mozenrath on Feb 10, 2009 18:30:35 GMT -5
I just don't get how in this day and age, people can have such a double standard about women. If they can take childbirth, they can take a punch like anyone else.
Why don't you go tell some joshi wrestlers how they are such wilting flowers that needs delicate handling. Mail me your arm when they're done with you.
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Post by Monster Under Your Bed on Feb 10, 2009 18:30:49 GMT -5
True, like Inoki and others would show. Blassie had snorkin acid thrown on him. Jericho has it easy. After Shane Douglas tossed around the Pitbull with the halo on, apparently he and Francine thought they were going to die. Got chased out to their car. Also, I haven't said yet that I largely side with Jericho on this whole thing. Punching a girl stretches it, though.
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Post by Mr Kimura on Feb 10, 2009 18:32:35 GMT -5
Piper got stabbed multiple times in some territories.
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Post by Rorschach on Feb 10, 2009 18:38:43 GMT -5
I just don't get how in this day and age, people can have such a double standard about women. If they can take childbirth, they can take a punch like anyone else. Why don't you go tell some joshi wrestlers how they are such wilting flowers that needs delicate handling. Mail me your arm when they're done with you. This was my main contention. Any time a woman goes on the offensive, she is an enemy combatant. Now, how you deal with her varies on the situation. Most times, restraint or subtle force is enough. However, sometimes a situation occurs wherein you cannot help but use heavy force on a woman. It's the nature of things, and anyone who would let some strange woman charge them with the intent of harming them, and NOT react/retaliate/defend themselves is lining up for a Darwin award. I still say the Jericho, had he been following the letter of the law, and not snapped, should have stayed in the car, dialed 911 on his cell phone/Onstar/whatever, and let the police handle the rioters.
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Post by Mozenrath on Feb 10, 2009 18:40:14 GMT -5
Piper got stabbed multiple times in some territories. Number one reason you can't really blame wrestlers for snapping on pushy fans. Knives are incredibly easy to conceal, and, funny enough, can kill ya.
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