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Post by Slingshot Suplay on Oct 6, 2009 20:22:09 GMT -5
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Post by SAJ Forth on Oct 6, 2009 20:40:58 GMT -5
Oh man that sucks. Though if he does retire sometime next year. It most certainly his his decision.
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Post by Lancers on Oct 6, 2009 20:45:52 GMT -5
Losing confidence in your ring work? You know what he needs... Michelle McCool disapproves. Everybody knows she doesn't work long matches. |
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Post by Janitor From Mars on Oct 6, 2009 21:12:53 GMT -5
I think Taker needs to retire.
CM Punk losing to Take proves to me that the WWE really knows how to ruin a good thing.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 6, 2009 21:27:14 GMT -5
Losing confidence in your ring work? You know what he needs... Will he subsequently drop the Tombstone and take up use of the F-U? |
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Post by Bubble Lead on Oct 6, 2009 22:15:11 GMT -5
Losing confidence in your ring work? You know what he needs... Will he subsequently drop the Tombstone and take up use of the F-U? If he starts taking Viagra, the Tombstone would be doubly effective. Takers opponents better start sewing their mouths shut. |
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Post by britishbulldog on Oct 6, 2009 22:28:11 GMT -5
Does anyone think Taker actually went in and said Hi Vince. Hey I'm all banged up but can I have the Title? It is not his decision to get the belt. Do I think he should have it, not in his current state however, Taker with the belt isn't the worst thing they could do. See Batista.
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Post by A Dubya (El Hombre Muerto) on Oct 6, 2009 22:39:38 GMT -5
This actually makes me really, really sad. I mean, not in a disappointed way, but it makes me kind of feel bad for Taker. It's got to suck, getting to that age and all of the work starting to take its toll. Especially if you've been so deeply connected to the business for as long as he has. And then it makes me even sadder to think that his time is definitely running out, and soon there will be no Undertaker in my WWE. It's really just depressing. :/  |
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Post by skiller on Oct 6, 2009 22:44:00 GMT -5
Does anyone think Taker actually went in and said Hi Vince. Hey I'm all banged up but can I have the Title? It is not his decision to get the belt. Do I think he should have it, not in his current state however, Taker with the belt isn't the worst thing they could do. See Batista. I'd say Batista would be a step up since I he'd be more capable of putting on a one on one match that would last more than ten minutes. Seriously, if Undertaker's currently in as bad shape as everyone says, I don't know what they were thinking. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 6, 2009 22:47:34 GMT -5
Does anyone think Taker actually went in and said Hi Vince. Hey I'm all banged up but can I have the Title? It is not his decision to get the belt. Do I think he should have it, not in his current state however, Taker with the belt isn't the worst thing they could do. See Batista. I'd say Batista would be a step up since I he'd be more capable of putting on a one on one match that would last more than ten minutes. Seriously, if Undertaker's currently in as bad shape as everyone says, I don't know what they were thinking. Admittedly, this is the company that knew that Batista needed surgery and gave him the WWE Championship anyway. |
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Post by skiller on Oct 6, 2009 22:48:54 GMT -5
I'd say Batista would be a step up since I he'd be more capable of putting on a one on one match that would last more than ten minutes. Seriously, if Undertaker's currently in as bad shape as everyone says, I don't know what they were thinking. Admittedly, this is the company that knew that Batista needed surgery and gave him the WWE Championship anyway. Well, yeah. But that's a whole different ass backward situation all together. |
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Post by Maniac Mitch on Oct 6, 2009 23:19:13 GMT -5
The thing is, it makes sense from a booking perspective if it's within the confines of the Punk/Taker feud. With Taker beating Punk, it'll eventually mean something when Punk wins in the end. In order for a win to mean anything, the other guy has to look like a threat.
Now, if they are going to drop this feud and go with Batista, then it's basically putting a bullet into the head of Punk's momentum.
As for Taker retiring, I'm of the opinion that a seasoned pro like him can put on a good match as long as his mind is still sharp because that's what working is all about. Flair was able to put on a great Mania match with HBK not based on in ring work(because he wasn't all that stellar) but on emotion and psychology.
While the days of Taker having twenty minute barn burners are likely over, I'm confident he's got a few good matches left in him. Guys like him who love the business so much have an uncanny ability to reach down and find reserves most people don't have. (I would liken him to guys like Flair, Foley, HBK, as guys who at some point everyone though were done and came back to have good matches.)
All told. The guy's had a hell of a run and has nothing to be ashamed of. It's hard to believe it'll be twenty years next year in WWE alone. When he leaves for good it'll be a sad day for Taker fans like myself but also I imagine he'll go out with a bang and give us one last great moment.
Those are pretty much my thoughts on his career winding down.
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Post by perpetualn00b on Oct 6, 2009 23:19:30 GMT -5
I'd say Batista would be a step up since I he'd be more capable of putting on a one on one match that would last more than ten minutes. Seriously, if Undertaker's currently in as bad shape as everyone says, I don't know what they were thinking. Admittedly, this is the company that knew that Batista needed surgery and gave him the WWE Championship anyway. Wasn't this because of Jericho's contract, though? |
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Post by thesunbeast on Oct 6, 2009 23:29:37 GMT -5
Yeah, it's not that he's "too old", as he was in fantastic shape earlier this year, it's that he had surgery on his hip, and he was wearing a hip girdle. It's injuries and a major surgery.
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Post by lordkain316 on Oct 6, 2009 23:58:31 GMT -5
In my opinion neither Taker or HBK should be in the ring anymore because it's obvious there bodies can't handle it anymore and when they do retire they should leave with the heads held up high rather then feeling upset over the situation.
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Post by H-Fist on Oct 7, 2009 1:40:31 GMT -5
From a booking perspective, it makes perfect sense to put the World Heavyweight Championship on the Undertaker. When you are trying to put together a solid main event picture, what are you trying to do? Establish a tier of legitimate challengers to a champion. Who has to wrestle the least to accomplish this multi-week piece of booking? The Champion himself. Everybody else has to jockey for position while he looks on.
There is no need for Taker to do anything in the ring other than cut promos between now and the next PPV. All he has to do is defend it where and when he feels like, because we all know that Teddy Long is so scared that he hasn't made B.M. in three and a half weeks.
If they want Taker around to boost ratings, then by all means make him the Champ. He doesn't have to do anything physically strenuous save 15 minutes one night per month. Let Punk and Rey carry the WHC match at Bragging Rights, with whoever needs to win picking up the win. I think Taker should eke out the victory, setting up Batista vs. Taker and Punk vs. Mysterio at Survivor Series. It's good business as long as people want to see Taker and Taker is willing to go out there.
Everybody who isn't the champ has to earn the right to step in the ring with him. Except Batista. He just plugs in his Game Genie.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 7, 2009 2:18:17 GMT -5
Admittedly, this is the company that knew that Batista needed surgery and gave him the WWE Championship anyway. Wasn't this because of Jericho's contract, though? What? I'm talking about at Extreme Rules, with Orton. |
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Post by Ryushinku on Oct 7, 2009 4:35:23 GMT -5
Does anyone think Taker actually went in and said Hi Vince. Hey I'm all banged up but can I have the Title? It is not his decision to get the belt. Do I think he should have it, not in his current state however, Taker with the belt isn't the worst thing they could do. See Batista. I think it's probably more like they already decided on the title switch, then Taker brought up his in-ring concerns but they still decided to go ahead with the switch anyway. As said, they can easily finangle it to the next PPV with Spooking Goings On rather than him wrestling, and I would think he won't be holding onto that title for very long. |
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Post by Dynamite Kid on Oct 7, 2009 4:44:55 GMT -5
Though it still begs the question, he doesn't feel he's in shape to main event, why is he in shape to carry the brand as their champion? That's what I was wondering. If he's such a company man, why's he taking the belt again if he doesn't think he's up to wrestling well enough with it? |
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Post by Chris the Bambikiller on Oct 7, 2009 7:36:47 GMT -5
If this story is true and not NEEEEEEWZ, all I can say is, respect to the Undertaker. Honestly, could you imagine, say, Hulk Hogan or Ric Flair a few years ago, or... hmm... HBK or HHH in a few years going to Vince and saying, "I'm not sure if I can perform well enough for a long main event match, I'd rather have a shorter match further down the card"? I can't.
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