HHH's "inside jokes"/personal jabs

[Phosphor Glow]

Oct 20, 2009 2:46:44 GMT -5 lordkain316 said:

Oct 20, 2009 0:40:16 GMT -5 Display Name said:

THIS.i'm starting to hate him...and why in the hell did he go over Cena,when Cena's in a title match this sunday?i hate you,triple h.

The day he and Stephanie take over the company is that day they may as well hang a "For Sale" sign outside WWE headquarters.

I can't believe some of you people think this is cool hell just think of all the careers Triple H has buried as a result of this crap and how many people both faces and heels have had to stand there in that ring and backstage and eat eat s*** like that especially Cena and Orton because there not allowed to fire back at him.

In my opinion it's WCW all over again.

and people wonder why I'm UFC fan now instead of a WWE one.

Wow...chill, man. Different people have different opinions.

[Ozman]

I have a question. How come when someone like Paul Heyman makes "inside jokes" like "Matt Freakin' Hardy" or "Triple H didn't want to work on Tuesday's" during "ECW's One Night Stand" 2005, people overwhelming claimed that it was the "GREATEST THING EVER", but when Triple H makes a joke about "Great Khali being a bad wrestler" or implying that the majority of the audience has no idea who Eric Escobar is, he's called the "WORST PERSON EVER" and a "BIG MEANIE" for "burying" someone?
GOTTA LOVE THE HYPOCRISY OF THE IWC!!!

[Bubble Lead]

Oct 20, 2009 4:07:30 GMT -5 Ozman said:

I have a question. How come when someone like Paul Heyman makes "inside jokes" like "Matt Freakin' Hardy" or "Triple H didn't want to work on Tuesday's" during "ECW's One Night Stand" 2005, people overwhelming claimed that it was the "GREATEST THING EVER", but when Triple H makes a joke about "Great Khali being a bad wrestler" or implying that the majority of the audience has no idea who Eric Escobar is, he's called the "WORST PERSON EVER" and a "BIG MEANIE" for "burying" someone?
GOTTA LOVE THE HYPOCRISY IF THE IWC!!!

I gotta say I agree with you there.

Although the big difference here, you must understand, is that Edge and JBL were able, allowed to, and DID fire right back at Heyman then...it wasn't all one sided.

I can see peoples point where with HHH he generally just makes these jokes at the expense of the other guy, leaving him looking stupid. I wouldn't mind a little back and forth.

Still, I have enjoyed what I have seen of DX this go round, which admittedly hasn't been a lot because I barely watch WWE these days and when I do its generally the younger guys clips and matches. They do seem infinitely more tolerable, funny, and nuanced compared to all that awful Vince LOVES COCKS!!! and poo flinging stuff they were doing in 2006.

[lordkain316]

Oct 20, 2009 3:42:04 GMT -5 Phosphor Glow said:

Oct 20, 2009 2:46:44 GMT -5 lordkain316 said:

The day he and Stephanie take over the company is that day they may as well hang a "For Sale" sign outside WWE headquarters.

I can't believe some of you people think this is cool hell just think of all the careers Triple H has buried as a result of this crap and how many people both faces and heels have had to stand there in that ring and backstage and eat eat s*** like that especially Cena and Orton because there not allowed to fire back at him.

In my opinion it's WCW all over again.

and people wonder why I'm UFC fan now instead of a WWE one.

Wow...chill, man. Different people have different opinions.

Sorry man I didn't want to come off sounding like a dick but it is what it is if you know what I'm saying?

[baerrtt]

Oct 20, 2009 4:42:41 GMT -5 Bubble Lead said:

Oct 20, 2009 4:07:30 GMT -5 Ozman said:

I have a question. How come when someone like Paul Heyman makes "inside jokes" like "Matt Freakin' Hardy" or "Triple H didn't want to work on Tuesday's" during "ECW's One Night Stand" 2005, people overwhelming claimed that it was the "GREATEST THING EVER", but when Triple H makes a joke about "Great Khali being a bad wrestler" or implying that the majority of the audience has no idea who Eric Escobar is, he's called the "WORST PERSON EVER" and a "BIG MEANIE" for "burying" someone?
GOTTA LOVE THE HYPOCRISY IF THE IWC!!!

I gotta say I agree with you there.

Although the big difference here, you must understand, is that Edge and JBL were able, allowed to, and DID fire right back at Heyman then...it wasn't all one sided.

I can see peoples point where with HHH he generally just makes these jokes at the expense of the other guy, leaving him looking stupid. I wouldn't mind a little back and forth.

Still, I have enjoyed what I have seen of DX this go round, which admittedly hasn't been a lot because I barely watch WWE these days and when I do its generally the younger guys clips and matches. They do seem infinitely more tolerable, funny, and nuanced compared to all that awful Vince LOVES COCKS!!! and poo flinging stuff they were doing in 2006.

To be fair HHH has been made fun of/shot on many times. Both Edge (back in 2002 on Smackdown) and Jeff Hardy last year in face to face confrontations pretty much got away with the IWC 'you're in the main event because you're married to Vince's daughter' jibe, the Dirt Sheet did a close to the bone parody/sketch of Trips relationship with Steph etc. I've a friend who thinks that only the Rock has 'buried' Trips in angles and no one else has been allowed to when that's never been entirely true.

[The Ichi]

Oct 20, 2009 4:07:30 GMT -5 Ozman said:

I have a question. How come when someone like Paul Heyman makes "inside jokes" like "Matt Freakin' Hardy" or "Triple H didn't want to work on Tuesday's" during "ECW's One Night Stand" 2005, people overwhelming claimed that it was the "GREATEST THING EVER", but when Triple H makes a joke about "Great Khali being a bad wrestler" or implying that the majority of the audience has no idea who Eric Escobar is, he's called the "WORST PERSON EVER" and a "BIG MEANIE" for "burying" someone?
GOTTA LOVE THE HYPOCRISY OF THE IWC!!!

Heyman's comments happened at One Night Stand 2005. That whole night was like one big bizarro land where the ECW guys were allowed to get one over on the WWE and kayfabe was thrown out the window. It was a one off.

That's a little different to someone doing it constantly on the flagship show.

[BayleyTiffyCodyCenaJudyHopps]

Oct 20, 2009 2:46:44 GMT -5 lordkain316 said:

Oct 20, 2009 0:40:16 GMT -5 Display Name said:

THIS.i'm starting to hate him...and why in the hell did he go over Cena,when Cena's in a title match this sunday?i hate you,triple h.

The day he and Stephanie take over the company is that day they may as well hang a "For Sale" sign outside WWE headquarters.

I can't believe some of you people think this is cool hell just think of all the careers Triple H has buried as a result of this crap and how many people both faces and heels have had to stand there in that ring and backstage and eat eat s*** like that especially Cena and Orton because there not allowed to fire back at him.

In my opinion it's WCW all over again.

and people wonder why I'm UFC fan now instead of a WWE one.

Oh, I'm fairly certain that UFC has its fair share of iffy business. And Cena and Orton, considering their status and drawing ability, probably have considerable clout.

I laugh at some of HHH's jabs, I'll admit. But then again I'm indifferent to a lot of backstage drama, and since I enjoy him anyway, I may be biased.

[sunnytaker]

Oct 20, 2009 0:41:57 GMT -5 celticjobber said:

Its his way of burying talent, so I really hate it when he does that most of the time.

or with tonight's references digging up the dead. hi-yo! ;P

[Celgress]

Oct 20, 2009 0:35:15 GMT -5 lordkain316 said:

the problem isn't the inside jokes/ personal jabs HHH takes at people it's that no one in the WWE allow to shoot it back at him.

Exactly my problem with the whole setup too.

[rapidfire187]

The way I look at it is like this.

DX can't be the same kind of group that they were back in the 1997-1999 incarnations. Now that they're PG, they can't even rely on the 2006 incarnation which was basically HHH saying naughty words and HBK being clean. A lot of people complained back in 2006 that DX was just a couple of 40 year olds acting like they were in their 20's again. So they changed up their stchick again, and now the majority of their comedy comes from smark humor.

The problem with it is that the casual WWE audience won't get most of the jokes. Of course the fans will still love DX because they're supposed to, but you won't hear uproarious laughter at a Katie Vick reference. That works for me though, because DX's smark jokes are the only things they've done since 2006 that got a laugh out of me.

The only thing I don't like about it is that HHH seems to get away with saying whatever he wants. He basically buried Drew McIntyre (who he's supposedly really high on) and Eric Escobar. He made the crack about Chris Master's hair plugs a few weeks back (and also made a joke about Master's muscle loss a few years ago). He made a joke about Batista being injury prone a few months back too. Don't get me wrong, I'm all for mean humor, but it shouldn't come at the expense of burying another wrestler that works for the company. It's completely unfair too because nobody else would be able to get away with those kind of on air attacks.

[A Dubya (El Hombre Muerto)]

Oct 20, 2009 1:02:29 GMT -5 BxB said:

I never thought he was funny with those. He comes off like one of those douchebags that try to put people down to make themselves look real cool. But then again, just my opinion.

I am of this opinion too. I really dislike HHH when he does stuff like that.

[babyfootball]

Okay, first of all, HHH's little jabs are nothing like WCW during its dying days. WCW was building whole freakin' angles around stuff that 99% of the people watching not only didn't understand, but didn't even know anything about. Not to mention that, eventually, it seemed like this stuff was happening every week, with no payoff, to the point where it was all just meaningless. HHH just throws out a couple of throwaway lines here and there that, sure, 99% of fans still might not get, but ultimately mean nothing to whatever angle they're working.

I mean, yeah, it does make HHH look like a bit of a bully and smart-ass, but, BUT... isn't that his (DX) character? Sure, there's a difference between DX Hunter and ultra-serious heel, reign of terror Hunter, but it's not like his character has ever been a helpful, friendly nice guy, y'know? Face or heel, he's always been a jerk.

As far as these comments "burying" wrestlers, let's take Eric Escobar for example. Dude's had a grand total of one match on WWE TV as part of the main roster. When DX makes comments about nobody knowing who he is, well, nobody knows who he is yet! DX even mentioning him (remember, he's a heel, and aligned with Vickie, after all!) actually HELPS him in the short-term, because people at least know who he is now, even if he hasn't really done anything of note (remember, YET).

I mean, remember when Hunter Hearst Helmsley first debuted, he was a rich snob who spoke in a fake accent and basically bore no resemblance to the character that he eventually found fame with. And didn't he wrestle Henry Godwinn in a HOG PEN match for crying out loud? Didn't really hurt his career, because he got over with fans eventually. Or when Steve Austin was the Ringmaster? That was basically a joke, what ever happened to that guy?

People are overreacting big time to a couple of harmless throwaway lines. Does anybody seriously think that Chris Masters would be World Champion right now if DX hadn't mentioned his sudden deflation a few years back?

Seriously, even if you figure (generously) that there's a total of 10,000 WWE fans that could be considered "smarks," or at least are aware of the internet and backstage happenings, that's not even 1% of the average weekly audience for RAW. The vast majority of WWE TV viewers are just regular people who don't know/care about backstage happenings and HHH's supposed burial jobs. Thus, I'd say that if HHH wants to throw in a little in-joke now and then, it's NO BIG DEAL.

[Prince Petty]

The majority of the time, I think they're pretty funny, so I don't mind them too much.

Of course, when you stop and consider that the only person who seems to be able to make jokes at Triple H's expense is Shawn Michaels, it does become less amusing. Still, it is relatively harmless, if you ask me.

Having said that, I do think people would be far less critical if it wasn't Triple H. To see a guy with his influence and power making smarky jokes can be unsettling, to smark fans. Take, for example, his joke when impersonating Vince, that all Vince's money would be left to Stephanie and "whoever that guy is that knocked her up." Honestly, I don't think that was anything more than him having fun, but I can see why others might not agree.

[James McCloud IS John Godot]

Some of Triple H's jabs are funny. His one at Dolph Ziggler was, if a little outdated.

But what was his jab at Jericho? "Haha Jericho sucks and we always beat him"? McIntyre and Escobar? "Who the hell are these new guys anyway LOLOLOL"?

Yeah, fantastic.

And other people are right, no-one ever gets to respond to them. They just usually stand around mouths agape as if DX has ripped their very soul in two. Jabs and jokes and smarky comments are awesome but there's a line not to be crossed and that line is when you directly imply your opponent is RUBBISH. Not that you're better than them, but that they suck and shouldn't even be there.

Sometimes Hunter crosses that line, sometimes he doesn't. I don't even believe he does it on purpose and it's all subjective anyway. But that's my take on it.

[primetime110]

I didn't know who McIntrye or Escobar were. Since I haven't watched much SD since Edge's injury. One of them looked like Kendrick.

Didn't HBK do almost the same to the guy they mentioned last? (can't remember who was talked about first between the two)

Also Shawn doing what he did to Knox at SS.

Did HBK bury Cody when he didn't mention him with the rest of the team? HHH wasn't in the ring by himself last night, HBK played a part in this as well. I know HHH done this in the past to Orton, Batista, Cena and they seem to be doing well for themselves.

[Brandon Walsh is Insane.]

I like them.

They are said with a wink, which is pretty awesome.



And if Cena wins Sunday, he has a ready made challenger in Triple H, who just pinned him last night. Perfect booking.

[The QC Loser]

Oct 20, 2009 12:21:07 GMT -5 primetime110 said:

I didn't know who McIntrye or Escobar were. Since I haven't watched much SD since Edge's injury. One of them looked like Kendrick.

Didn't HBK do almost the same to the guy they mentioned last? (can't remember who was talked about first between the two)

Also Shawn doing what he did to Knox at SS.

Did HBK bury Cody when he didn't mention him with the rest of the team? HHH wasn't in the ring by himself last night, HBK played a part in this as well. I know HHH done this in the past to Orton, Batista, Cena and they seem to be doing well for themselves.

When they put the graphic up I thought McIntrye was Kendrick. I was like wow he came back.

[spagett]

Oct 20, 2009 12:23:01 GMT -5 Brandon Walsh is Insane. said:

I like them.

They are said with a wink, which is pretty awesome.



And if Cena wins Sunday, he has a ready made challenger in Triple H, who just pinned him last night. Perfect booking.

I am really starting to dread the prospect of a Triple H John Cnea feud and the more I think about it the more likely it appears to happen.

Anyway like others have said I think sometimes Triple H goes over the line with these smarky comments expecially in regards to Chris Masters.

My main issue with it though is that nobody is ever allowed to insult him back. Triple H is allowed to run his mouth and use insider insults on a wrestler and the other guy has to stand there and take it.

It is amazing when you go back and watch how The Rock used to rip Triple H apart on the mic time and again from him crying to JR about being punished for the curtain call and for him doing the same promo to open Raw every week.

Maybe Triple H is still scarred from those verbal beatings way back when and since that time that is why nobody is ever allowed to look smarter than him.

[primetime110]

Oct 20, 2009 12:49:38 GMT -5 The QC Loser said:

Oct 20, 2009 12:21:07 GMT -5 primetime110 said:

I didn't know who McIntrye or Escobar were. Since I haven't watched much SD since Edge's injury. One of them looked like Kendrick.

Didn't HBK do almost the same to the guy they mentioned last? (can't remember who was talked about first between the two)

Also Shawn doing what he did to Knox at SS.

Did HBK bury Cody when he didn't mention him with the rest of the team? HHH wasn't in the ring by himself last night, HBK played a part in this as well. I know HHH done this in the past to Orton, Batista, Cena and they seem to be doing well for themselves.

When they put the graphic up I thought McIntrye was Kendrick. I was like wow he came back.

Good, So it wasn't only me. lol.

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Oct 20, 2009 0:40:16 GMT -5 Display Name said:

Oct 20, 2009 0:35:15 GMT -5 lordkain316 said:

the problem isn't the inside jokes/ personal jabs HHH takes at people it's that no one in the WWE allow to shoot it back at him.

THIS.i'm starting to hate him...and why in the hell did he go over Cena,when Cena's in a title match this sunday?i hate you,triple h.

I thought that was really bizarre. I don't think I've ever seen a face chasing a world title inexplicably lose cleanly to someone they're not even feuding with right before the PPV...HHH or not.