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Post by Shy Guy on Oct 21, 2009 14:20:31 GMT -5
well, you can't blame WWE for not hiring him if he wasn't physically fit. TNA probably isn't worried about that since it is a lighter schedule (IMO), but yeah... if the dude can't pass a cardio test, then no need to be in a rush to sign him.
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Post by AriadosMan on Oct 21, 2009 14:28:20 GMT -5
well, you can't blame WWE for not hiring him if he wasn't physically fit. TNA probably isn't worried about that since it is a lighter schedule (IMO), but yeah... if the dude can't pass a cardio test, then no need to be in a rush to sign him. If this is the case, wasn't he badly smashed up in ROH? Maybe they were worried about more re-injuries.
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Post by HMARK Center on Oct 21, 2009 19:29:13 GMT -5
well, you can't blame WWE for not hiring him if he wasn't physically fit. TNA probably isn't worried about that since it is a lighter schedule (IMO), but yeah... if the dude can't pass a cardio test, then no need to be in a rush to sign him. I doubt it was a cardio issue for Nigel, I imagine it may have more to do with his propensity towards injury and the concussion he suffered at Death Before Dishonor. I understand if the information doesn't come out, but I can't help now but be curious what the story might be with Nigel. I'm sure it's not a major, life-or-death issue ala MVP's heart problem, or else he'd be tending to that right now. I'm hoping it's just something that, with TNA's lighter schedule, simply won't be too much of an issue for him; also, can't forget that Nigel is into his 30's now, and isn't looking to wrestle for another 20 years or whatever, so, again, hopefully it's an issue that is easily worked around given the lighter schedule.
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Post by fw91 on Oct 21, 2009 19:37:21 GMT -5
www.wrestlezone.com/news/article/big-update-on-bryan-danielson-is-he-tna-or-wwe-bound-88509We exclusively reported yesterday that former Ring of Honor star Bryan Danielson was not a part of the deal made between TNA and Nigel McGuinness, and that as of then his future with TNA or WWE was still undecided. In an update to the story, ProWrestling.net is reporting that Bryan Danielson is expected to begin working with WWE in the very near future. It appears that Nigel McGuinness may have been telling people that WWE waited too long to sign him as a cover-up for the reality that he failed a preliminary drug test with the company, but reports are indicating that is NOT the case with Danielson and that since he passed his test he will be signing with WWE as expected
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Post by Deleted on Oct 21, 2009 20:12:16 GMT -5
www.wrestlezone.com/news/article/big-update-on-bryan-danielson-is-he-tna-or-wwe-bound-88509We exclusively reported yesterday that former Ring of Honor star Bryan Danielson was not a part of the deal made between TNA and Nigel McGuinness, and that as of then his future with TNA or WWE was still undecided. In an update to the story, ProWrestling.net is reporting that Bryan Danielson is expected to begin working with WWE in the very near future. It appears that Nigel McGuinness may have been telling people that WWE waited too long to sign him as a cover-up for the reality that he failed a preliminary drug test with the company, but reports are indicating that is NOT the case with Danielson and that since he passed his test he will be signing with WWE as expected This is completely false...He did not fail a drug test he however did not pass their physical examination due to injury issues mostly relating to his bicep injuries and his concussion he suffered in ROH...WWE rescinded their contract offer and Nigel signed with TNA...Danielson is pretty much a given now to be on his way to WWE as he has expressed absolutely no interest in TNA and has made it public before... Heres a detailed explanation PWI has now made their report available for everyone: As we broke last night in the PWInsider.com Elite section, Nigel McGuinness is believed to have signed a two year deal with TNA. McGuinness approached the company after World Wrestling Entertainment rescinded their contract offer. WWE sources indicated yesterday that the results of McGuinness' pre-contract screening turned up several injury issues that led to the company backing off on their interest in signing him. The actual deal with TNA went down about 5-6 days ago and McGuinness was instructed to keep mum, going as far as to act "wary" towards friends when he was asked when he would debut for WWE in the last several weeks. As I noted yesterday on my Hotline, TNA President Dixie Carter has been a huge fan of McGuinness for several years. At one point, McGuinness was going to be offered a TNA deal, but had already signed with Ring of Honor. TNA instead signed Doug Williams at the time. When McGuinness learned WWE wouldn't sign him at this time, he contacted TNA, who jumped at the chance to sign him up. Any stories based around the idea that WWE "held up the paperwork" on McGuinness, allowing TNA to jump in and sign him up, are completely without merit. McGuiness' new TNA ring name, Desmond Wolf, was created as the company wanted a name they could trademark and copyright for their own purposes. McGuinness himself came up with the name and TNA ran with it. As those of you who have seen spoilers for the next two episodes of Impact know, McGuinness will be in the TNA mix in a MAJOR way starting this Thursday. For those who are curious, Ring of Honor wasn't aware McGuinness had signed with TNA until after he was in Orlando at the Impact taping yesterday, so there were no discussions in regard to McGuinness returning to ROH. McGuinness lost to Bryan Danielson in their respective farewells at the 9/26 ROH event in New York City. WWE sources indicate Bryan Danielson passed his pre-contract screening and will start shortly with the company. Rumors he was TNA-bound in the last 24 hours were also without merit as Danielson has had zero interest in working for TNA dating back several years. www.pwinsider.com/article/42398/the-complete-wwenigel-mcguinnesstna-story.html?p=1
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Post by Deleted on Oct 21, 2009 20:29:38 GMT -5
So Basicially, he wasn't signed becaused the WWE didn't want another Ken Anderson on their hands?
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Post by KimberlyPagesBoyToy on Oct 21, 2009 20:40:30 GMT -5
This is awesome news if you're a TNA fan. 2 of the biggest prospects in the indys somehow just land in TNA's lap, after they agreed to WWE contracts nonetheless. I wouldn't mind seeing a hostile takeover. Even though they never were in the E, since they were allegedly signed they could say Steph and Paul sent them here for the sole purpose of destroying TNA forever!
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Post by Deleted on Oct 21, 2009 20:51:28 GMT -5
This is awesome news if you're a TNA fan. 2 of the biggest prospects in the indys somehow just land in TNA's lap, after they agreed to WWE contracts nonetheless. I wouldn't mind seeing a hostile takeover. Even though they never were in the E, since they were allegedly signed they could say Steph and Paul sent them here for the sole purpose of destroying TNA forever! Danielson is 99% with WWE still at this point and has no interest in TNA...Read the report I posted a few replies up...
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Post by hajimenoippo on Oct 21, 2009 20:53:27 GMT -5
Sadly, the reaction of most WWE fans would be, "What the hell are those guys doing in the ring? I want another DX promo!" It's not really the fans' fault though, HDNET isn't a big network, and not everybody digs ROH/Indy wrestling. If WWE deemed him unhealthy to compete because he couldn't pass a battery of test then that's WWE's choice. If They don't think he's in good enough shape to wrestle, and have given him test that show it's unhealthy for him to be in their company with results to show this, then wow he must be in BAD shape
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Post by Can you afford to pay me, Gah on Oct 21, 2009 23:26:19 GMT -5
Basicly it going to end it's Danielson in WWE. Nigel in TNA. Who knows the whole story on the "health". Nigel did show up to TNA and competed. The whole health story in iffy. That he unhealthy to compete but yet he competes for TNA. It sounds like the WWE backed out because he wasn't 100% but may thought to go back to it when he healed up. But Nigel wanted to sign now with a major company. His health sounds like Angle.
The same was said about Angle when he went to TNA yet he basicly been injury free the whole time there. His worst which was a conussion earily in his run and a hamstring that he wrestled though.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 21, 2009 23:33:33 GMT -5
Hmm, two of ROH's stars and major players leave and one ends up in TNA while the other WWE. Where have I heard that before.
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Post by AriadosMan on Oct 21, 2009 23:36:12 GMT -5
Lemme guess...Samoa Joe and CM Punk?
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Post by Azrael from Outerspace on Oct 21, 2009 23:58:41 GMT -5
Lemme guess...Samoa Joe and CM Punk? Of course not, he was talking about Jay Lethal and Jamie Noble.
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Post by Taupy on Oct 22, 2009 6:37:46 GMT -5
Basicly it going to end it's Danielson in WWE. Nigel in TNA. Who knows the whole story on the "health". Nigel did show up to TNA and competed. The whole health story in iffy. That he unhealthy to compete but yet he competes for TNA. It sounds like the WWE backed out because he wasn't 100% but may thought to go back to it when he healed up. But Nigel wanted to sign now with a major company. His health sounds like Angle. The same was said about Angle when he went to TNA yet he basicly been injury free the whole time there. His worst which was a conussion earily in his run and a hamstring that he wrestled though. I think there's a difference between WWE and TNA in this aspect. Don't WWE wrestlers wrestle 2-3 times more every weeks than TNA wrestler? If the guys has some health issue, why would they risk having a injury-prone wrestler? It would probably cost them more money marketing him and keeping him healthy than he would draw them money.
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Post by Can you afford to pay me, Gah on Oct 22, 2009 12:03:07 GMT -5
Basicly it going to end it's Danielson in WWE. Nigel in TNA. Who knows the whole story on the "health". Nigel did show up to TNA and competed. The whole health story in iffy. That he unhealthy to compete but yet he competes for TNA. It sounds like the WWE backed out because he wasn't 100% but may thought to go back to it when he healed up. But Nigel wanted to sign now with a major company. His health sounds like Angle. The same was said about Angle when he went to TNA yet he basicly been injury free the whole time there. His worst which was a conussion earily in his run and a hamstring that he wrestled though. I think there's a difference between WWE and TNA in this aspect. Don't WWE wrestlers wrestle 2-3 times more every weeks than TNA wrestler? If the guys has some health issue, why would they risk having a injury-prone wrestler? It would probably cost them more money marketing him and keeping him healthy than he would draw them money. True the WWE guys to tend to wrestle more. The simple solution to that would be to say ok we'll sign you but you must take time off to heal first before we have to compete. The reason why Nigel got so bagged up because he didn't take the time off to heal himself. Being ROH champion he didn't want to give it up until he had too.
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Post by Feargus McReddit on Oct 22, 2009 12:37:02 GMT -5
Lemme guess...Samoa Joe and CM Punk? Of course not, he was talking about Jay Lethal and Jamie Noble. You're both wrong! He means Jimmy Rave and Matt Sydal
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Post by SHAKEMASTER TV9 is Don Knotts on Oct 22, 2009 13:18:00 GMT -5
Anything that comes up in the test would be a red flag for the WWE. Remember last year, Tomko was brought it, did not receive a pre-screening test and competed with a broken arm in a dark match. So in any potential signing, the wrestler is going to be looked at with a higher level of scrutiny that before.
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Post by Steveweiser on Oct 22, 2009 13:52:27 GMT -5
You know that WWE will find a loophole in this test if Kurt Angle decides to return.
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Post by Ringmaster on Oct 22, 2009 14:07:27 GMT -5
If true i'd like to thank every diety ever created, if they go to tna, i'd like to then thank statan and tell him enjoy my soul, you earned it.
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Post by AriadosMan on Oct 22, 2009 14:54:29 GMT -5
You know that WWE will find a loophole in this test if Kurt Angle decides to return. And why exactly would he leave a league with a much lighter booking schedule that he practically controls? (before you say money, I doubt that's his prime motivator at this point)
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