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Post by Perigryn on Oct 23, 2009 1:33:30 GMT -5
You know that WWE will find a loophole in this test if Kurt Angle decides to return. And why exactly would he leave a league with a much lighter booking schedule that he practically controls? (before you say money, I doubt that's his prime motivator at this point) Angle said in an interview that the lighter schedule doesn't necessarily mean people work less. Besides the TNA wrestlers who work indy dates on their days off, Angle himself has a bunch of movies in the pipeline.
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Post by richter on Oct 23, 2009 2:14:52 GMT -5
Nigel has talked about problems with concussions himself. www.scrippsnews.com/node/48474Ring of Honor star Nigel McGuinness has debuted in TNA Wrestling under the name Desmond Wolf and already is feuding with company kingpin Kurt Angle. According to Internet reports from several wrestling Web sites, McGuinness failed WWE's medical pre-screening exam given to incoming talent. WWE has never announced results of these tests. But one possible reason McGuinness was disqualified is an extensive history of concussions, which was a problem that afflicted Benoit before his death. WWE announced baseline testing for its wrestlers in April 2008. TNA doesn't do concussion testing or have an active drug-testing policy (steroid or recreational) for its performers like WWE. During a January telephone interview, McGuinness said he had suffered at least "two or three" concussions, but couldn't remember the exact number. "I'm not making fun of it, but I do forget a lot of times," McGuinness said. "I remember sometimes earlier in my career where I would get into a car at night and see bright lights in the sky. After one match with (Austin) Aries, I had to take the next night off and for a good week or so I couldn't walk without stumbling. "I don't think I've had anywhere near the head shots like Mick Foley or those (Extreme Championship Wrestling) guys in the past had taken. But the weird thing is you don't know how many you can take before you suffer serious, permanent damage." McGuinness said he was trying to do a better job protecting his head after reading the autobiography of Chris Nowinski, who was forced to retire from WWE because of post-concussion syndrome. Nowinski is now president and CEO of the Sports Legacy Institute, which is doing extensive medical studies on concussion damage and prevention. Several notable pro wrestlers -- including Foley, Al Snow and Spike Dudley -- have agreed to posthumously donate their brains to science for concussion research. "It put the fear of death into me when they talk about all the ex-NFL guys in their 40s and 50s showing sign of Alzheimer's and dementia," said the 31-year-old McGuinness, who moved to the United States from the United Kingdom in the 1990s for wrestling training. "It's something I need to worry about. Unfortunately in this business, there's only so much you can do." McGuinness didn't immediately respond Thursday to a text message or e-mail seeking comment on his WWE medical exam.
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Post by Bubble Lead on Oct 23, 2009 2:55:13 GMT -5
So Basicially, he wasn't signed becaused the WWE didn't want another Ken Anderson on their hands? Right. Considering guys like Undertaker, Edge, and Batista are known for staying injury free. Anyway, I am glad Nigel went to TNA and surprise surprise, he is immediately made to look like a big threat and thrown into a feud with Kurt Angle. You think WWE would have let him debut by attacking John Cena or Undertaker? Nah, because he isn't 7 feet tall. I cant wait to watch AmDrag debut on ECW, make a name for himself and then be drafted to RAW so he can team with Hornswoggle and get squashed by a few midcard heels, then is confined to having matches on Superstars every few weeks.
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Post by SAJ Forth on Oct 23, 2009 11:01:20 GMT -5
I want to say 2 things: I hope Danielson goes far in WWE. While I'm not sure if he'll make it to a major Heavyweight Championship, I think he will do Ok for himself. And I think that if McGuiness feels he needs to retire early in the next feel, he certainly should do so while his brain still has a good deal of function.
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Post by AriadosMan on Oct 23, 2009 11:07:15 GMT -5
And why exactly would he leave a league with a much lighter booking schedule that he practically controls? (before you say money, I doubt that's his prime motivator at this point) Angle said in an interview that the lighter schedule doesn't necessarily mean people work less. Besides the TNA wrestlers who work indy dates on their days off, Angle himself has a bunch of movies in the pipeline. Angle doesn't do any indies that I know of (although that's a good explanation for Red, Burke, et al.) And he's much less likely to get injured making a movie than in the ring. It may be exhausting, but its certainly less physically stressful than wrestling those extra dates for WWE would be.
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Post by travis on Oct 23, 2009 13:16:41 GMT -5
Comparing Nigel to Taker, Edge, and Batista makes no sense. Taker, Edge and Batista suffered their injuries in WWE rings and they're responsible. Nigel battered himself elsewhere. It makes no sense for WWE to waste an investment on someone who destroyed themselves elsewhere when they can sign hundreds of other wrestlers.
We'll see how long this TNA push will last. They'll screw it up in due time like with eveything else. All it takes is their crappy booking and the signing of a few "names" from WWE.
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Post by The Captain on Oct 23, 2009 13:33:26 GMT -5
So Basicially, he wasn't signed becaused the WWE didn't want another Ken Anderson on their hands? I cant wait to watch AmDrag debut on ECW, make a name for himself and then be drafted to RAW so he can team with Hornswoggle and get squashed by a few midcard heels, then is confined to having matches on Superstars every few weeks. Yep, because CM Punk is sure having a rough time making a name for himself in the WWE.
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Post by brettappedout (BLM) on Oct 23, 2009 13:49:42 GMT -5
The only reason I'd be worried about Danielson is him not having a big backer like Punk did. Punk had Paul Heyman and ECW to finally get on a main roster. Johnny Ace isn't a big fan of Punk or wasn't at the time, hence Punk being in OVW for a year or so. So I hope Danielson has a good backer. He must have a bakcer to atleast get in WWE, but I just hope it's a big one.
Also about Punk he grew on people, so again you hope Danielson will have a chance to do that aswell.
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Post by Turd Ferguson on Oct 23, 2009 14:09:24 GMT -5
The only reason I'd be worried about Danielson is him not having a big backer like Punk did. Punk had Paul Heyman and ECW to finally get on a main roster. Johnny Ace isn't a big fan of Punk or wasn't at the time, hence Punk being in OVW for a year or so. So I hope Danielson has a good backer. He must have a bakcer to atleast get in WWE, but I just hope it's a big one. Also about Punk he grew on people, so again you hope Danielson will have a chance to do that aswell. Danielson has HBK, Regal, Malenko, and anyone else who is a fan of great technical ability.
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Post by Azrael from Outerspace on Oct 23, 2009 14:26:40 GMT -5
The only reason I'd be worried about Danielson is him not having a big backer like Punk did. Punk had Paul Heyman and ECW to finally get on a main roster. Johnny Ace isn't a big fan of Punk or wasn't at the time, hence Punk being in OVW for a year or so. So I hope Danielson has a good backer. He must have a bakcer to atleast get in WWE, but I just hope it's a big one. Also about Punk he grew on people, so again you hope Danielson will have a chance to do that aswell. Danielson has HBK, Regal, Malenko, and anyone else who is a fan of great technical ability. Plus he has stated in shoots that he didn't want to just get called because of those people he knows. He wanted the E to want to have him with something to do. I think AmDrag will be just fine and i am excited to watch the progression.
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Post by HMARK Center on Oct 23, 2009 15:50:20 GMT -5
Yeah, unlike many other guys they've signed, I think WWE will actually do alright by Danielson. They've pursued him for about four years now, and some in the company have been quite vocal about wanting him on board, so I anticipate them actually putting him to decent use.
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Post by The Captain on Oct 23, 2009 15:56:35 GMT -5
Isn't Johnny Ace a big fan of Danielson, too? Or am I just imagining things?
Definitely know that HBK's pretty high on him, and with the clout he has that'll go a long way.
Wonder if he will spend any time in FCW. He's the type of guy who can go right to the main roster, but it wouldn't be out of the question for him to spend a short stint in FCW to just get him familiar with the WWE style of doing things.
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Post by Mozenrath on Oct 23, 2009 15:58:28 GMT -5
Isn't Johnny Ace a big fan of Danielson, too? Or am I just imagining things? Definitely know that HBK's pretty high on him, and with the clout he has that'll go a long way. Wonder if he will spend any time in FCW. He's the type of guy who can go right to the main roster, but it wouldn't be out of the question for him to spend a short stint in FCW to just get him familiar with the WWE style of doing things. Who ISN'T high on Danielson, worker wise? ;D
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Post by Allie Kitsune on Oct 23, 2009 16:35:24 GMT -5
Isn't Johnny Ace a big fan of Danielson, too? Or am I just imagining things? Definitely know that HBK's pretty high on him, and with the clout he has that'll go a long way. Wonder if he will spend any time in FCW. He's the type of guy who can go right to the main roster, but it wouldn't be out of the question for him to spend a short stint in FCW to just get him familiar with the WWE style of doing things. Who ISN'T high on Danielson, worker wise? ;D If I had to wager a guess, I'd say Triple H, who has never been high on ANYBODY except Drew McIntyre.
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Post by Bubble Lead on Oct 23, 2009 18:18:26 GMT -5
I cant wait to watch AmDrag debut on ECW, make a name for himself and then be drafted to RAW so he can team with Hornswoggle and get squashed by a few midcard heels, then is confined to having matches on Superstars every few weeks. Yep, because CM Punk is sure having a rough time making a name for himself in the WWE. Punk is very obviously the exception to the rule. There is no other new guy that debuted in recent memory and got such a push right away. He was lucky debuting in ECW and getting an instant push. The guy went undefeated for months and months there as a face. He was always one of the top ECW guys pretty much from the start until he left, and then as soon as he left he was given the WORLD TITLE. He basically got a Kurt Angle or Lesnar type push, won a World Title almost within a year of debuting. Using him as an example is pointing to a uy that won the lottery and saying SEE DREAMS CAN COME TRUE! If WWE pushed other new guys like they pushed Punk they could be making other new stars. Imagine if some new guy debuts and attacks someone like Undertaker right away and takes him out [Mankind comes to mind] they would be huge instantly.
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Post by Mozenrath on Oct 23, 2009 18:21:14 GMT -5
Who ISN'T high on Danielson, worker wise? ;D If I had to wager a guess, I'd say Triple H, who has never been high on ANYBODY except Drew McIntyre. Well, to be fair, he did give Batista and Orton their push, since he cherry picked them for Evolution, with the plan being to make a stable where everyone contributed to, rather than hung on, the stable. That and people saying he was big on Punk. Kind of hard to say, though, I doubt he goes around playing open favorites much.
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Post by Bub (BLM) on Oct 23, 2009 18:25:14 GMT -5
If I had to wager a guess, I'd say Triple H, who has never been high on ANYBODY except Drew McIntyre. Well, to be fair, he did give Batista and Orton their push, since he cherry picked them for Evolution, with the plan being to make a stable where everyone contributed to, rather than hung on, the stable. That and people saying he was big on Punk. Kind of hard to say, though, I doubt he goes around playing open favorites much. If Triple H did like Punk, it'd probably just be due to the fact that Punk had the endorsement of guys Triple H idolized such as Harley Race and Ricky Steamboat.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 23, 2009 18:39:12 GMT -5
Well, to be fair, he did give Batista and Orton their push, since he cherry picked them for Evolution, with the plan being to make a stable where everyone contributed to, rather than hung on, the stable. That and people saying he was big on Punk. Kind of hard to say, though, I doubt he goes around playing open favorites much. If Triple H did like Punk, it'd probably just be due to the fact that Punk had the endorsement of guys Triple H idolized such as Harley Race and Ricky Steamboat. Well, Danielson was trained by his best friend and has the love of two of his favorites in Steamboat and Regal. I'd wager he'd be all for given Bryan a good shot at everything.
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Post by Bubble Lead on Oct 23, 2009 19:43:31 GMT -5
If Triple H did like Punk, it'd probably just be due to the fact that Punk had the endorsement of guys Triple H idolized such as Harley Race and Ricky Steamboat. Well, Danielson was trained by his best friend and has the love of two of his favorites in Steamboat and Regal. I'd wager he'd be all for given Bryan a good shot at everything. Paul London was an HBK student, and we all see where that got him. ;D Kendrick as well.
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Post by mrjl on Oct 23, 2009 19:59:50 GMT -5
So Basicially, he wasn't signed becaused the WWE didn't want another Ken Anderson on their hands? Right. Considering guys like Undertaker, Edge, and Batista are known for staying injury free. they became names before they spent a lot of time injured though.
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