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Post by Bravo Echo November on Oct 23, 2009 20:03:29 GMT -5
I respect any decision Danielson makes, but if he does sign with WWE it will greatly increase my waning interest in the product.
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Post by Spudz on Oct 23, 2009 20:32:59 GMT -5
Well, Danielson was trained by his best friend and has the love of two of his favorites in Steamboat and Regal. I'd wager he'd be all for given Bryan a good shot at everything. Paul London was an HBK student, and we all see where that got him. ;D Kendrick as well. I think Danielson takes wrestling a little more seriously than those 2 and wrestles a style that Triple H will like where London and Kendrick has a style that he probably didn't care for. |
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Post by thuschongswing on Oct 23, 2009 20:43:37 GMT -5
Who ISN'T high on Danielson, worker wise? ;D If I had to wager a guess, I'd say Triple H, who has never been high on ANYBODY except Drew McIntyre. I actually heard he was high on Scotty Goldman/Colt Cabana. Which lead Colt absolutely friggen' nowhere, but still. |
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Post by Bubble Lead on Oct 23, 2009 21:05:24 GMT -5
Paul London was an HBK student, and we all see where that got him. ;D Kendrick as well. I think Danielson takes wrestling a little more seriously than those 2 and wrestles a style that Triple H will like where London and Kendrick has a style that he probably didn't care for. Well, I am glad that the style HHH enjoys as well as as the relationships wrestlers have with his friends are factors into what wrestlers get pushed in WWE, rather than their talent level. Now I know why people always say HHH has a great mind for the business! As far as people making names for themselves so they can be injured half the time, whats wrong with giving a guy a shot to make a name for himself? Just because a guy has been injured before doesn't mean WWE shouldn't try to sign him and push him. Batista got injured like three times during his WWE run before they gave him any sort of real push. |
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Post by Krimzon on Oct 23, 2009 21:24:17 GMT -5
So Nigel went ahead to TNA...
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Post by Spudz on Oct 23, 2009 21:58:50 GMT -5
I think Danielson takes wrestling a little more seriously than those 2 and wrestles a style that Triple H will like where London and Kendrick has a style that he probably didn't care for. Well, I am glad that the style HHH enjoys as well as as the relationships wrestlers have with his friends are factors into what wrestlers get pushed in WWE, rather than their talent level. Now I know why people always say HHH has a great mind for the business! As far as people making names for themselves so they can be injured half the time, whats wrong with giving a guy a shot to make a name for himself? Just because a guy has been injured before doesn't mean WWE shouldn't try to sign him and push him. Batista got injured like three times during his WWE run before they gave him any sort of real push. WWE gave London and Kendricks chances but having fun & smoking pot was more important to them. WWE takes brain issues serious thanks to Chris Benoit that why Nigel wasn't signed. |
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Post by Bubble Lead on Oct 24, 2009 18:58:31 GMT -5
Well, I am glad that the style HHH enjoys as well as as the relationships wrestlers have with his friends are factors into what wrestlers get pushed in WWE, rather than their talent level. Now I know why people always say HHH has a great mind for the business! As far as people making names for themselves so they can be injured half the time, whats wrong with giving a guy a shot to make a name for himself? Just because a guy has been injured before doesn't mean WWE shouldn't try to sign him and push him. Batista got injured like three times during his WWE run before they gave him any sort of real push. WWE gave London and Kendricks chances but having fun & smoking pot was more important to them. WWE takes brain issues serious thanks to Chris Benoit that why Nigel wasn't signed. More like neither of them cared for WWEs booking policies. They never saw a push in it for them so they didn't feel the need to cater to the WWE. Which I agree with. Neither did RVD which is why he isn't there anymore, even though they could desperately use him right now. As far as Nigel is concerned, I am glad he is in TNA and not WWE. WWE would just misuse him. |
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Post by toddpolt on Oct 24, 2009 19:03:42 GMT -5
And TNA won't misuse him?
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Post by comahan on Oct 24, 2009 19:07:48 GMT -5
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Post by Bubble Lead on Oct 24, 2009 19:13:45 GMT -5
And TNA won't misuse him? Maybe they will, maybe they wont but so far they are doing a good job with him. Guaranteed he is getting a better push right now than anything WWE would have done with him. This is the same place that begged Carlito to sign a new contract when he wanted to leave, and then told him they didn't have anything for him to do. |
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Post by toddpolt on Oct 24, 2009 19:15:11 GMT -5
Both Nigel AND Bryan not WWE-bound is just a painful blow for the WWE.
Nigel was like CM Punk an all-around complete total package wrestler, a real MVP that within 5 years would have been World champ. Bryan isn't as big of a loss, but a great technical wrestler never hurts a roster.
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Post by HMARK Center on Oct 24, 2009 23:40:05 GMT -5
Both Nigel AND Bryan not WWE-bound is just a painful blow for the WWE. Nigel was like CM Punk an all-around complete total package wrestler, a real MVP that within 5 years would have been World champ. Bryan isn't as big of a loss, but a great technical wrestler never hurts a roster. Danielson is going to WWE. |
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Post by Mozenrath on Oct 24, 2009 23:48:50 GMT -5
why does every thread seem to dissolve into this argument It happens. That being said, this needs to get back on topic, folks. Last I checked, this was not a topic about Kendrick, London, or how folks are used. Get back on topic or this will be locked. |
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Post by H-Fist on Oct 25, 2009 0:02:47 GMT -5
why does every thread seem to dissolve into this argument It happens. That being said, this needs to get back on topic, folks. Last I checked, this was not a topic about Kendrick, London, or how folks are used. Get back on topic or this will be locked. To be fair, the topis is effectively based in the question mark in the thread title. We know for a fact that Nigel McGuinness is now Desmond Wolfe in TNA. We know that Danielson and WWE agreed in principle to a deal, but don't have any confirmation other than a leak that he is "expected to start work with WWE in the near future." I'm not sure what is left of this topic to discuss. Half of it goes in another forum, and the other half is basically a matter of "what might happen? have any of the sheets posted anything in the last 20 minutes?" |
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Post by Ligerbusa on Oct 25, 2009 0:13:20 GMT -5
WWE gave London and Kendricks chances but having fun & smoking pot was more important to them. WWE takes brain issues serious thanks to Chris Benoit that why Nigel wasn't signed. More like neither of them cared for WWEs booking policies. They never saw a push in it for them so they didn't feel the need to cater to the WWE. Which I agree with. Neither did RVD which is why he isn't there anymore, even though they could desperately use him right now. As far as Nigel is concerned, I am glad he is in TNA and not WWE. WWE would just misuse him. Remember when RVD was champion? What happened? Oh yeah, he got arrested for pot. God damn booking policies! |
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Post by ritt works hard fo da chickens on Oct 25, 2009 0:15:16 GMT -5
Yep, because CM Punk is sure having a rough time making a name for himself in the WWE. Punk is very obviously the exception to the rule. There is no other new guy that debuted in recent memory and got such a push right away. He was lucky debuting in ECW and getting an instant push. The guy went undefeated for months and months there as a face. He was always one of the top ECW guys pretty much from the start until he left, and then as soon as he left he was given the WORLD TITLE. He basically got a Kurt Angle or Lesnar type push, won a World Title almost within a year of debuting. Using him as an example is pointing to a uy that won the lottery and saying SEE DREAMS CAN COME TRUE! If WWE pushed other new guys like they pushed Punk they could be making other new stars. Imagine if some new guy debuts and attacks someone like Undertaker right away and takes him out [Mankind comes to mind] they would be huge instantly. What do you consider recent? John Cena debuted against Angle Bobby Lashley got a heck of a push right out the gate. Eric Escobar is aligned with the best heat getter in recent memory. Evan Bourne got a way better push then anyone expected up until his draft and injury. Hell I bet if given the chance the E has given Seamus, Yoshi, McIntire, etc. Danielson can be quite successful and happy. Of course it could all go bad but the chances are about equal in TNA as WWE. Only Danielson wants to be in WWE so more power to him and I wish him all the best. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 25, 2009 0:28:08 GMT -5
Updated the first post since people tend to skip some of the others. Once again, any talk of Nigel/Desmond that is not on why WWE passed on signing him needs to be in the TNA board.
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Post by Topher is Human on Oct 25, 2009 0:41:10 GMT -5
Imagine if some new guy debuts and attacks someone like Undertaker right away and takes him out [Mankind comes to mind] they would be huge instantly. The Great Khali |
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Post by Bubble Lead on Oct 25, 2009 0:50:05 GMT -5
Imagine if some new guy debuts and attacks someone like Undertaker right away and takes him out [Mankind comes to mind] they would be huge instantly. The Great Khali I am aware. Khali sucks though. He also only got that push because he is a huge guy. They need to give a push like that to someone with a future in the business who will be able to draw money, such as they did with Mankind or Kane. Khali doesn't have one and cant. |
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Post by Fiddleford H. McGucket on Oct 25, 2009 11:19:43 GMT -5
I am aware. Khali sucks though. He also only got that push because he is a huge guy. They need to give a push like that to someone with a future in the business who will be able to draw money, such as they did with Mankind or Kane. Khali doesn't have one and cant. Ok..... Someone actually has a counter to your argument, and you dismiss it because of personal preference. While Yes, those pushes SHOULD in all likelihood go to people that can use them they generally don't. Now I'm not defending Khali, just his booking. Vince has always had a thing for freakishly big guys and for some reason assumed that the people would want to see Khali like they wanted to see Andre. Personally I don't really believe that Khali was ever intended to be anything more than a special attraction and was certainly never MEANT to be world champ at any time. |
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