Krimzon
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Post by Krimzon on Oct 23, 2009 21:23:16 GMT -5
How can they not have anything for Carlito? He's a 2nd generation wrestler. If Ted leaves Legacy, put Carlito in there. Not exactly rocket science, WWE.
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Post by I Like Your Poetry on Oct 23, 2009 22:29:48 GMT -5
I have to disagree with the "Creative has nothing for him, so he's sitting on the sidelines."
By that logic, Charlie Haas would have been off of TV for the last 3+ years.
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Post by Lenny: Smooth like Keith Stone on Oct 23, 2009 23:05:11 GMT -5
I agree that the phrase "creative has nothing for you" reflects worse on creative than it does the wrestlers. The problem is that Carlito is in a stale gimmick. The solution is to somehow repackage him. All it takes is a new hairstyle... new ring gear... or in a drastic case, a new gimmick. I hate to sound like an armchair quarterback here, and I'm not saying I could come up with the perfect gimmick or anything. But come on -- sometimes I wonder if the creative teams even try.
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Post by David Otunga: Eternian at Law on Oct 24, 2009 0:11:21 GMT -5
I've always pictured creative meetings like this, they have a board with every superstar ranked from top the number one guy to the bottom the newest guy.
They start the day at 8am with someone like Cena or HHH and start pulling from the talent they should face...they create story lines for them and their heel counterparts and move down the list this likely takes the better part of the day into dinner time as they come up with new ways for Cena to seem ULTRA-HUMAN and HHH to seem amazingly funny, cool, and still be a bad ass.
Somewhere after dinner break they start on midcard guys. These storylines usually are not exactly top shelf for a few reasons a) the staff is tired...and b) nobody wants to give a midcard guy a better match than Batista or Ortin has. That being said it usually means a series of bad ideas made to look okay.
By this time problem being is they spent SOOOOOOOOOOOOOO much time on what they feel is the upper tier talent they get to guys like Carlito they have not only blown their story wad on the chosen, but its like 3am the next day and half the staff is sleeping, so they draw a line on the board and just say....we have nothing for these guys.
And then the last dude leaving at 5am stops to take a dump, and jots down the Divas matches for the week, on TP...he then wipes and turns the soiled TP in as this weeks Divas angle...it always gets approved. No changes needed.
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Post by Nacho STAYS Hyped on Oct 24, 2009 0:19:51 GMT -5
I'm sure TNA or ROH creative would have plenty of ideas for him. Ideas that could probably draw money.
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Post by mysterydriver on Oct 24, 2009 0:22:11 GMT -5
Evan Bourne. Kofi Kingston. Primo Colon. Jack Swagger The Miz. Chris Masters. Carlito Colon. Chavo Guerrero
How can they not use different combinations of these eight men with the US Title as the main focus point? They could've easily built to an elimination match at Survivor Series (You know...a PPV usually built around a tag team elimination match.)
I'd put Swagger on the "face team" after a fall out. His ego gets him in trouble with the Miz's ego, Masters' temper, Chavo's pride, and Carlito's...yeah?
Either way, they could've easily had a Survivor Series match where, when one team was eliminated, the remaining members of the "winning" team would then wrestle. The last man standing wins the US Title.
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Post by Citizen Grimm on Oct 24, 2009 0:35:07 GMT -5
Evan Bourne. Kofi Kingston. Primo Colon. Jack Swagger The Miz. Chris Masters. Carlito Colon. Chavo Guerrero How can they not use different combinations of these eight men with the US Title as the main focus point? They could've easily built to an elimination match at Survivor Series (You know...a PPV usually built around a tag team elimination match.) I'd put Swagger on the "face team" after a fall out. His ego gets him in trouble with the Miz's ego, Masters' temper, Chavo's pride, and Carlito's...yeah? Either way, they could've easily had a Survivor Series match where, when one team was eliminated, the remaining members of the "winning" team would then wrestle. The last man standing wins the US Title. This is a brilliant idea. Thus, it is far to imaginitive for WWE creative to come up with. Good work though. |
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Post by Slingshot Suplay on Oct 24, 2009 1:14:33 GMT -5
I agree that the phrase "creative has nothing for you" reflects worse on creative than it does the wrestlers. The problem is that Carlito is in a stale gimmick. The solution is to somehow repackage him. All it takes is a new hairstyle... new ring gear... or in a drastic case, a new gimmick. I hate to sound like an armchair quarterback here, and I'm not saying I could come up with the perfect gimmick or anything. But come on -- sometimes I wonder if the creative teams even try. I've been saying it for a long time... give him this look :   This theme : It's a start... |
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Post by Nic Nemeth on Oct 24, 2009 1:18:39 GMT -5
Team him up with Chris Masters and have him get bitchslapped again.
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Post by TheJaredAnderson on Oct 24, 2009 2:14:56 GMT -5
Team him up with Chris Masters and wear sumbreros. |
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Post by noleafclover1980 on Oct 24, 2009 3:13:25 GMT -5
I really don't get the "creative has nothinf for you excuse" YOU'RE CREATIVE. YOUR ENTIRE JOB IS TO BE CREATIVE, AND COME UP WITH THINGS FOR PEOPLE TO DO! THAT'S ALL YOU DO!
Sorry about that... if I were Vince, and my creative team told me they had nothing for some workers to do, I'd hire a new creative team. That's like a cashiere that can't bag your items. If you can't do your job, why re you getting paid?
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Post by Azrael from Outerspace on Oct 24, 2009 3:17:57 GMT -5
Can it just be said that the Raw creative team has nothing for him. If he was on ECW he'd be in a feud maybe fighting for the ECW title.
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Post by Cactus Jack on Oct 24, 2009 6:17:13 GMT -5
Le sigh. Do they ever?
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Post by Can you afford to pay me, Gah on Oct 24, 2009 8:22:48 GMT -5
Yet they break up one of few tag Teams they had without having a really a pay off feud or a real plan for either one. Why to go WWE. Heres an idea. Keep then as a team and have the feud with other teams. I'm sure some good things can come out of a cross brand feud against the Hart Dynasty.
WWE not having anything for people is stupid. When 9 out of 10 are simple fixes. As much as I hate the guy at less when Russo was there during attitude. He had stuff for everyone at less.
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Post by Avalanche Alvarez on Oct 24, 2009 8:37:35 GMT -5
If they had a tag team division like they claim, they could've kept him with his brother and they would've at least had that.
But NOOOO...
What a comedy of errors this promotion is.
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Post by Kae on Oct 24, 2009 9:00:21 GMT -5
They should just put him and Primo back together, send them to Smackdown, and let them feud with the Harts or Cryme Tyme. They don't even need to explain it well. They can totally Matt Hardy it. "I'm sorry, brother. "Okay."  |
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Post by wwefan78 on Oct 24, 2009 9:50:28 GMT -5
Next time Creative tells talent "We have nothing for you", I'd like Vince to step in and chime in "No, I'M sorry, then we have nothing for YOU eather" *creative stutters and starts brainstorming ideas*
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Post by Ligerbusa on Oct 24, 2009 11:23:36 GMT -5
Guess what?
Carlito sucks anyway.
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Post by Taupy on Oct 24, 2009 13:43:19 GMT -5
Remember when even Crash Holly and Just Joe had storyline?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 24, 2009 13:54:45 GMT -5
This is always such a poor excuse. As other people have said, it's their jobs to come up with characters and stories for wrestlers.
But anyway, I think there's plenty that can be done with Carlito. He always seems to be somewhat over and he can easily be pushed. For a start, why not team him up with his brother again? Failing that, there's always a possibility to go back to his original gimmick and he'll do fine in the midcard with that.
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