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Post by Pagan Warrior on Nov 6, 2009 16:34:06 GMT -5
Why do people think of it as a so much better finisher than the FU?
It's exactly the same set-up, only instead of a weak slam, it's an even weaker kick to the face. I just can't take it seriously as the finishing move of a world champion, but I get the feeling I'm the only one who feels this way. Help me out here on this.
Oh, and before anyone tries: "Because Kenta does it", is not a legitimate answer.
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Post by Krimzon on Nov 6, 2009 16:35:24 GMT -5
Knee to the face > Slam. A knee to the face is a legit KO move. Some of Punk's GTSs have looked more brutal than any FU Cena's done.
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Post by James McCloud IS John Godot on Nov 6, 2009 16:36:50 GMT -5
Because I find it easier to believe driving someone's face into my knee with some velocity has a better chance of stunning someone long enough for a three count than a slam focusing on the upper back.
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Post by Krimzon on Nov 6, 2009 16:38:51 GMT -5
I like to think of it like this:
FU = Knock the wind out
G2S = Knock the f*** out
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Post by Spankymac is sick of the swiss on Nov 6, 2009 16:39:26 GMT -5
If Orton can kick a guy in the head and take guys out for months at a time, I can believe CM Punk kneeing a guy to the head and knocking him out for the three count.
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Post by Lance Uppercut on Nov 6, 2009 16:41:38 GMT -5
Knee to the face > Slam. A knee to the face is a legit KO move. Some of Punk's GTSs have looked more brutal than any FU Cena's done. yeah but, for obvious reasons, he usually doesn't knee them in the face making the move look weak. Not to mention people usually fall feet first before getting hit in the face instead of a direct falling face to Knee. |
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Post by barley96 on Nov 6, 2009 16:42:30 GMT -5
Rey Mysterio legitimately got his nose busted open from the GTS. I haven't seen the FU do anything of the kind.
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Post by James McCloud IS John Godot on Nov 6, 2009 16:50:46 GMT -5
Knee to the face > Slam. A knee to the face is a legit KO move. Some of Punk's GTSs have looked more brutal than any FU Cena's done. yeah but, for obvious reasons, he usually doesn't knee them in the face making the move look weak. Not to mention people usually fall feet first before getting hit in the face instead of a direct falling face to Knee. And the Tombstone doesn't actually drive someone's head into the mat destroying their neck. I'm able to suspend disbelief for the G2S. |
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Post by Rorschach on Nov 6, 2009 16:53:38 GMT -5
I actually kind of, sort of, wish that he'd use that AWESOME looking Anaconda Vice slam from SDvsRAW2010 as his primary finisher.
That move looks BRUTAL.
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Post by The Deadly Snake on Nov 6, 2009 16:54:34 GMT -5
The Attitude Adjustment literally looks like John Cena is in the Fireman's Carry to do a big move, but it looks he goes, "Screw It" and throws the guy off of him. It looks really, really weak. He needs to do what Taka Michinoku does with him Michinoku Driver. If Taka didn't do the Sit-Down with his Michinoku Driver, it looks like a regular scoop slam, but doing the Michinoku Driver looks bad ass when he sits down wit hit. Cena needs to do that.
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Post by barley96 on Nov 6, 2009 16:56:46 GMT -5
The Attitude Adjustment literally looks like John Cena is in the Fireman's Carry to do a big move, but it looks he goes, "Screw It" and throws the guy off of him. It looks really, really weak. He needs to do what Taka Michinoku does with him Michinoku Driver. If Taka didn't do the Sit-Down with his Michinoku Driver, it looks like a regular scoop slam, but doing the Michinoku Driver looks bad ass when he sits down wit hit. Cena needs to do that. As a Taka Michinoku mark, I second that notion. |
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Post by Rorschach on Nov 6, 2009 16:58:34 GMT -5
The Attitude Adjustment literally looks like John Cena is in the Fireman's Carry to do a big move, but it looks he goes, "Screw It" and throws the guy off of him. It looks really, really weak. He needs to do what Taka Michinoku does with him Michinoku Driver. If Taka didn't do the Sit-Down with his Michinoku Driver, it looks like a regular scoop slam, but doing the Michinoku Driver looks bad ass when he sits down wit hit. Cena needs to do that. As a Taka Michinoku mark, I second that notion. Isn't it TAKA (in all caps) now? What's the protocol for that, anyway? I see KENTA written like that sometimes, and have always wondered why. |
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Post by The Deadly Snake on Nov 6, 2009 16:58:42 GMT -5
The Attitude Adjustment literally looks like John Cena is in the Fireman's Carry to do a big move, but it looks he goes, "Screw It" and throws the guy off of him. It looks really, really weak. He needs to do what Taka Michinoku does with him Michinoku Driver. If Taka didn't do the Sit-Down with his Michinoku Driver, it looks like a regular scoop slam, but doing the Michinoku Driver looks bad ass when he sits down wit hit. Cena needs to do that. As a Taka Michinoku mark, I second that notion. John Cena HAS done it before like that. Just probably once or twice. And everytime, it looked pretty good. |
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Post by Lance Uppercut on Nov 6, 2009 17:02:09 GMT -5
As a Taka Michinoku mark, I second that notion. Isn't it TAKA (in all caps) now? What's the protocol for that, anyway? I see KENTA written like that sometimes, and have always wondered why. The Japanese tend to capitalize for their Heels. Don't know why, capitalization makes them seem more evil? But yeah, it's like the seperate heel/face tunnels at the iMpact zone. Small subtle but definite "he's a heel" markers. |
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Post by The Tank on Nov 6, 2009 17:12:02 GMT -5
As a Taka Michinoku mark, I second that notion. Isn't it TAKA (in all caps) now? What's the protocol for that, anyway? I see KENTA written like that sometimes, and have always wondered why. For TAKA, it's most likely due to his heel turn. For KENTA, it's to get rid of confusion. Because his real name is Kenta Kobayashi, and he's known as the star pupil of Kenta Kobashi. Sooo............yea. One's Kenta and the other's KENTA. |
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Post by Solid Stryk-Dizzle on Nov 6, 2009 17:19:00 GMT -5
Rey Mysterio legitimately got his nose busted open from the GTS. I haven't seen the FU do anything of the kind. The Attitude Adjustment broke one of Kenzo Suzuki's ribs once. |
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Post by STMP on Nov 6, 2009 17:19:19 GMT -5
As a Taka Michinoku mark, I second that notion. Isn't it TAKA (in all caps) now? What's the protocol for that, anyway? I see KENTA written like that sometimes, and have always wondered why. I think it has to do with how it is written in Japan. I remember seeing KENTA written in letters instead of Japanese caligraphy. Same with Taka. There are a few other wrestlers too. I assume it's not really about caps but about being written different alltogether. |
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Post by twiggy101 on Nov 6, 2009 17:21:53 GMT -5
I think the GTS can be brutal sometimes when wrestlers break their noses every now and then. Even when it looks weak.
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Post by Solid Stryk-Dizzle on Nov 6, 2009 17:24:50 GMT -5
Should come as no surprise that I like the AA.
It's a simple high impact move that the crowd goes nuts for. No need to drop the guy on his dome when the crowd pops just as hard for a safe landing.
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Post by stormwrestling on Nov 6, 2009 17:26:31 GMT -5
The FU (not calling it AA, sorry) looks just like a Fireman slam, tbh. Not hat not it isn't a good move, just compared with GTS.
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