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Post by Johnny Danger (Godz) on Nov 18, 2009 20:04:30 GMT -5
It's quite simple what ROH has to do with it. That's probably what he's best "known" for, so, no one would bother posting what he thinks, or replying to it, if it wasn't for them. He obviously seems to think he can do better, if he criticizes WWE. "fans" can sit on the internet and bitch about the company all day, but its not like they are in a position to do any better. If Mr. Jablonsky knows what makes a succesful wrestling company, maybe he ought to do more than bitch and act like Punk is the only thing worth watching in the company. If he doesn't think his company (or whatever the hell he's doing these days) is better, maybe he shouldn't run his mouth off saying tapings "suck" and that he saw "crappy wrestling that turned him off the business" Couldn't be sour grapes because none of his ventures will ever have the success WWE has had/will continue to have, could it? That eye roll is a great way to get your point across, though. Really shut me up.
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Post by primetime110 on Nov 18, 2009 20:05:04 GMT -5
Now if Dixie Carter or Jeff Jarrett said this..........We would be at 10 pages of hate for those 2. Well, Mostly Jarrett. Dixie is too cute to have 10 pages of hate. lol.
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Post by Johnny Danger (Godz) on Nov 18, 2009 20:06:25 GMT -5
Now if Dixie Carter or Jeff Jarrett said this..........We would be at 10 pages of hate for those 2. Well, Mostly Jarrett. Dixie is too cute to have 10 pages of hate. lol. Replace them with Hogan, and we'd have people calling for blood. Replace it with Heyman, and we'd have people bowing and building altars.
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Post by "Hollywood" Cactus Matt on Nov 18, 2009 20:09:31 GMT -5
Now if Dixie Carter or Jeff Jarrett said this..........We would be at 10 pages of hate for those 2. Well, Mostly Jarrett. Dixie is too cute to have 10 pages of hate. lol. Replace them with Hogan, and we'd have people calling for blood. Replace it with Heyman, and we'd have people bowing and building altars. Replace it with Vince Russo, and I'd shoot my computer. ;D
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Post by spagett on Nov 18, 2009 20:10:46 GMT -5
It's quite simple what ROH has to do with it. That's probably what he's best "known" for, so, no one would bother posting what he thinks, or replying to it, if it wasn't for them. He obviously seems to think he can do better, if he criticizes WWE. "fans" can sit on the internet and bitch about the company all day, but its not like they are in a position to do any better. If Mr. Jablonsky knows what makes a succesful wrestling company, maybe he ought to do more than bitch and act like Punk is the only thing worth watching in the company. If he doesn't think his company (or whatever the hell he's doing these days) is better, maybe he shouldn't run his mouth off saying tapings "suck" and that he saw "crappy wrestling that turned him off the business" Couldn't be sour grapes because none of his ventures will ever have the success WWE has had/will continue to have, could it? That eye roll is a great way to get your point across, though. Really shut me up. Why is this getting you so angry? You seem to care a hell of a lot more than anyone else about what he has to say.
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Post by The OP on Nov 18, 2009 20:11:14 GMT -5
Sucks to be him. I'd hate to be bored by wrestling events and have to work as a wrestling promoter.
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Post by Johnny Danger (Godz) on Nov 18, 2009 20:11:22 GMT -5
Replace them with Hogan, and we'd have people calling for blood. Replace it with Heyman, and we'd have people bowing and building altars. Replace it with Vince Russo, and I'd shoot my computer. ;D Isn't that what TNA is for? "Everything WWE did sucks....but we're gonna hire anyone too old/on bad terms with them!"
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Post by Johnny Danger (Godz) on Nov 18, 2009 20:12:13 GMT -5
It's quite simple what ROH has to do with it. That's probably what he's best "known" for, so, no one would bother posting what he thinks, or replying to it, if it wasn't for them. He obviously seems to think he can do better, if he criticizes WWE. "fans" can sit on the internet and bitch about the company all day, but its not like they are in a position to do any better. If Mr. Jablonsky knows what makes a succesful wrestling company, maybe he ought to do more than bitch and act like Punk is the only thing worth watching in the company. If he doesn't think his company (or whatever the hell he's doing these days) is better, maybe he shouldn't run his mouth off saying tapings "suck" and that he saw "crappy wrestling that turned him off the business" Couldn't be sour grapes because none of his ventures will ever have the success WWE has had/will continue to have, could it? That eye roll is a great way to get your point across, though. Really shut me up. Why is this getting you so angry? You seem to care a hell of a lot more than anyone else about what he has to say. I.....actually didn't know I was angry. I'm not. I just think Gabe is douchey. That's really the extent of it.
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Post by mcmahonfan85 on Nov 18, 2009 20:16:17 GMT -5
It's quite simple what ROH has to do with it. That's probably what he's best "known" for, so, no one would bother posting what he thinks, or replying to it, if it wasn't for them. He obviously seems to think he can do better, if he criticizes WWE. "fans" can sit on the internet and bitch about the company all day, but its not like they are in a position to do any better. If Mr. Jablonsky knows what makes a succesful wrestling company, maybe he ought to do more than bitch and act like Punk is the only thing worth watching in the company. If he doesn't think his company (or whatever the hell he's doing these days) is better, maybe he shouldn't run his mouth off saying tapings "suck" and that he saw "crappy wrestling that turned him off the business" Couldn't be sour grapes because none of his ventures will ever have the success WWE has had/will continue to have, could it? That eye roll is a great way to get your point across, though. Really shut me up. so if someone from the WWE show went to an ROH, CHIKARA, or DGUSA show then posted that besides one or two things they didn't like it, they should be bared from posting their opinions on their own personal sites? and if they did decide to give their opinion on the show, fans with even less experience in the wrestling business than they do should be allowed to b**** and say "Well who the f*** are they to complain?"
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Post by Bishblast on Nov 18, 2009 20:16:19 GMT -5
Gabe's a one trick pony, anyway... if you put him in a WWE Creative meeting, he wouldn't know what the hell to do. And the format of Smackdown in formulaic because IT'S A FREAKING TV SHOW WITH STRICT TIME/GUIDE LINES.
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Post by Johnny Danger (Godz) on Nov 18, 2009 20:20:31 GMT -5
It's quite simple what ROH has to do with it. That's probably what he's best "known" for, so, no one would bother posting what he thinks, or replying to it, if it wasn't for them. He obviously seems to think he can do better, if he criticizes WWE. "fans" can sit on the internet and bitch about the company all day, but its not like they are in a position to do any better. If Mr. Jablonsky knows what makes a succesful wrestling company, maybe he ought to do more than bitch and act like Punk is the only thing worth watching in the company. If he doesn't think his company (or whatever the hell he's doing these days) is better, maybe he shouldn't run his mouth off saying tapings "suck" and that he saw "crappy wrestling that turned him off the business" Couldn't be sour grapes because none of his ventures will ever have the success WWE has had/will continue to have, could it? That eye roll is a great way to get your point across, though. Really shut me up. so if someone from the WWE show went to an ROH, CHIKARA, or DGUSA show then posted that besides one or two things they didn't like it, they should be bared from posting their opinions on their own personal sites? and if they did decide to give their opinion on the show, fans with even less experience in the wrestling business than they do should be allowed to b**** and say "Well who the f*** are they to complain?" Let's be realistic...I don't think anyone is going to ask who a WWE superstar is. Also do me a favor and show me where I said he should be "bared" from posting his opinions on his site, and I'll just go ahead and delete my account because I've obviously lost my mind.
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Post by HMARK Center on Nov 18, 2009 20:21:43 GMT -5
Gabe Sapolsky can f*** off, plain and simple. Ran at the first sign of success for ROH. Who is he to tell people how to run a successful wrestling promotion. Here he was, who had the possibility to MAYBE become someone who could eventually become someone to give the WWE some competition. Jericho is in the right. Sapolsky is just another nobody, why should he care more than whatever one of us is saying. The fact he even acknowledged his comment is mind boggling. ...What the hell did Gabe do to you?! What the hell has gotten into some of you guys? Chill the hell out, you're acting like kids who just heard something they didn't like to hear, so you're calling the guy who said it "a big stupidhead" or something. Yeesh.
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Post by skiller on Nov 18, 2009 20:25:35 GMT -5
I agree with him.
I'm not going to sit here and say he's a perfect booker, because I've made it clear I don't think he is. But (ignoring his departure halfway) his criticism of things being too robotic is something I've thought for a long time now.
For instance take John Cena. Here's the usual series of events you'll see in any one of his matches; whip to the corner, bulldog off the nearby ropes, shoulderblock/clothesline, opponent gets back up, shoulderblock/clothesline, opponent gets back up, spin out slam, 5 Knuckle Shuffle, opponent gets back up, FU, maybe followed by an STFU.
It's always the same. Or at the very least close or similar to that series of moves. I feel this could be a big reason why numbers have fallen, everything's always the same. Sometimes the result is different, but it usually takes the exact same path.
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Post by Johnny Danger (Godz) on Nov 18, 2009 20:27:27 GMT -5
I agree with him. I'm not going to sit here and say he's a perfect booker, because I've made it clear I don't think he is. But (ignoring his departure halfway) his criticism of things being too robotic is something I've thought for a long time now. For instance take John Cena. Here's the usual series of events you'll see in any one of his matches; whip to the corner, bulldog off the nearby ropes, shoulderblock/clothesline, opponent gets back up, shoulderblock/clothesline, opponent gets back up, spin out slam, opponent gets back up, FU, maybe followed by an STFU. It's always the same. Or at the very least close or similar to that series of moves. I feel this could be a big reason why numbers have fallen, everything's always the same. Sometimes the result is different, but it usually takes the exact same path. I'm no fan of John Cena, but, do you realize that that formula works for basically every big name in the business, from Flair and Hogan to Bret and Angle? In fact I'm pretty sure the "Five Moves of Doom" theory was originally created for Bret. It's not just Cena, main eventers have been doing that for years. I don't like it, but it tells the kiddies when to cheer I guess...
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Post by skiller on Nov 18, 2009 20:29:28 GMT -5
I agree with him. I'm not going to sit here and say he's a perfect booker, because I've made it clear I don't think he is. But (ignoring his departure halfway) his criticism of things being too robotic is something I've thought for a long time now. For instance take John Cena. Here's the usual series of events you'll see in any one of his matches; whip to the corner, bulldog off the nearby ropes, shoulderblock/clothesline, opponent gets back up, shoulderblock/clothesline, opponent gets back up, spin out slam, opponent gets back up, FU, maybe followed by an STFU. It's always the same. Or at the very least close or similar to that series of moves. I feel this could be a big reason why numbers have fallen, everything's always the same. Sometimes the result is different, but it usually takes the exact same path. I'm no fan of John Cena, but, do you realize that that formula works for basically every big name in the business, from Flair and Hogan to Bret and Angle? In fact I'm pretty sure the "Five Moves of Doom" theory was originally created for Bret. It's not just Cena, main eventers have been doing that for years. I don't like it, but it tells the kiddies when to cheer I guess... Personally I've found it a lot more "in your face" so to speak with Cena. It's like they not even try to hide it. Hogan, Hart, etc. seemed to have more offense in their arsenal that wasn't simply their finishing sequence of moves.
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Post by spagett on Nov 18, 2009 20:29:53 GMT -5
Why is this getting you so angry? You seem to care a hell of a lot more than anyone else about what he has to say. I.....actually didn't know I was angry. I'm not. I just think Gabe is douchey. That's really the extent of it. You were insulting him and anyone that liked him whilst using a few swear words. Doesn't mean you were angry of course, maybe I should have said passionate. You said you didn't care what he said but you clearly do otherwise you wouldn't spend time slagging him off on here. Even if you don't like him doesn't the fact his criticisms seem fairly valid save him from your scathing words?
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Post by The Count of Tuscany on Nov 18, 2009 20:30:47 GMT -5
I agree with him. I'm not going to sit here and say he's a perfect booker, because I've made it clear I don't think he is. But (ignoring his departure halfway) his criticism of things being too robotic is something I've thought for a long time now. For instance take John Cena. Here's the usual series of events you'll see in any one of his matches; whip to the corner, bulldog off the nearby ropes, shoulderblock/clothesline, opponent gets back up, shoulderblock/clothesline, opponent gets back up, spin out slam, opponent gets back up, FU, maybe followed by an STFU. It's always the same. Or at the very least close or similar to that series of moves. I feel this could be a big reason why numbers have fallen, everything's always the same. Sometimes the result is different, but it usually takes the exact same path. I'm no fan of John Cena, but, do you realize that that formula works for basically every big name in the business, from Flair and Hogan to Bret and Angle? In fact I'm pretty sure the "Five Moves of Doom" theory was originally created for Bret. It's not just Cena, main eventers have been doing that for years. I don't like it, but it tells the kiddies when to cheer I guess... And still it would be absolutely reasonable to criticize that approach if you don't like it.
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Post by Johnny Danger (Godz) on Nov 18, 2009 20:33:38 GMT -5
I'm no fan of John Cena, but, do you realize that that formula works for basically every big name in the business, from Flair and Hogan to Bret and Angle? In fact I'm pretty sure the "Five Moves of Doom" theory was originally created for Bret. It's not just Cena, main eventers have been doing that for years. I don't like it, but it tells the kiddies when to cheer I guess... Personally I've found it a lot more "in your face" so to speak with Cena. It's like they not even try to hide it. Hogan, Hart, etc. seemed to have more offense in their arsenal that wasn't simply their finishing sequence of moves. Yeah, I can see what you mean. That's actually one of many reasons I wish they'd turn Cena heel. He could almost be tolerable if when he falls into his predictable offense, the crowd starts to boo, and he gives them this "oh yeah, that's right" douchebag look....
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Post by Chainsaw on Nov 18, 2009 20:43:58 GMT -5
A Gabe Vs. Jericho Internet Feud. License to print theoretical money.
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Post by Johnny Danger (Godz) on Nov 18, 2009 20:45:30 GMT -5
A Gabe Vs. Jericho Internet Feud. License to print theoretical money. Lets see, he's beat up a woman, used racial and sexual slurs on camera....this could help finally put Y2J over the top! ;D
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