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Post by KingPopper on Nov 24, 2009 1:43:24 GMT -5
A solo mainevent seems kinda strange. But I'm becoming a fan of the guy. But with all this young talent push, I feel WWE will get cold feet again, remember how everyone was excited for the scramble match. Kendrick's push was dropped. MVP and Shelton are bland faces now, and we al know what happend to Hardy.
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Post by Mozenrath on Nov 24, 2009 1:50:16 GMT -5
I think that Triple H probably put in a good word, but Sheamus is someone that people have had high hopes for all the way back in FCW. He debuted in ECW, got over very quickly to where if they didn't move him, they'd pretty much have to give him a feud with Christian, and it would seem they elected to move him to Raw instead. I don't think he'll win, obviously, but Raw needed another big heel, and he's not a bad choice by any stretch.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 24, 2009 1:50:27 GMT -5
A big hoss guy being on ECW for a while, then getting rushed into the main event scene on RAW? Hasn't this happened before? ![](http://spotmonkey.files.wordpress.com/2008/12/snitsky.jpg) Yikes. *Note: I like Sheamus. I'm just sayin'. Also quite pale!
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Post by Tyfo on Nov 24, 2009 1:54:07 GMT -5
I'm sure he had something to do with it. But whatever it takes to get someone different in the WWE title scene is cool by me.
Plus Sheamus is really good and will have no problem hanging in a main event spot.
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Nov 24, 2009 2:04:35 GMT -5
I like Sheamus and HHH so I'm 'fer it. It kept me interested in Raw for the first time in a bit.
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Post by Ryushinku on Nov 24, 2009 5:31:16 GMT -5
I'd say probably, yeah.
I have zero problem with that as well.
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Nov 24, 2009 7:00:10 GMT -5
A big hoss guy being on ECW for a while, then getting rushed into the main event scene on RAW? Hasn't this happened before? ![](http://spotmonkey.files.wordpress.com/2008/12/snitsky.jpg) Yikes. Snitsky got a main event push?
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Post by Back to being Cenanuff on Nov 24, 2009 7:32:00 GMT -5
I'm sure Haitch had something to do with it, but I'm not complaining at all. Sheamus is awesome, and I'm really glad to see some new faces in the title scene. Kofi's feud with Orton will eventually get him into main event status, which is good. I still think that there could be a couple other guys that could make the jump, but I'll settle for these two right now. I'm fully expecting Orton to inject himself into this title match at TLC, which will be way they save face on Sheamus if he loses, or creates a new feud if Orton wins it for him.
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Post by markdown474 on Nov 24, 2009 7:54:19 GMT -5
I really really don't get Sheamus as #1 contender. All they can do is build him up for a month and then job him to Cena. Then what? (Besides Future Endeavors?) This is my concern right here. Sheamus is awesome but I'd hate to see him lose all his heat after a loss to Cena. Hopefully they know what they're doing.
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Post by BitterAF on Nov 24, 2009 8:05:12 GMT -5
First, I approve of Sheamus' push. He's got it. Raw needs a new ME heel. He's different than Orton for sure.
Second, why do people want Kofi to end his feud with Orton BEFORE they even have a PPV match so he can go into a gimmic PPV with a FACE Cena only to loose? You really want a face vs. face ME at a new PPV with no payoff? At least at WM6, Warrior was put over since he was supposed to be the new star of the company.
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Post by angryfan on Nov 24, 2009 8:16:38 GMT -5
I'm sure he had something to do with it. But whatever it takes to get someone different in the WWE title scene is cool by me. Plus Sheamus is really good and will have no problem hanging in a main event spot. I'm all for something different, and think Sheamus has money potential. My only fear is that this will wind up being "build him up, build him up, squash" all over again. Really, I don't blame Trips if he did put in a word for the big guy, since getting him in the match is not the issue at all. The issue to me is, what now? You have three choices, squash him like they always seem to do with guys in this situation, have him pull an upset win and risk the fans not taking him seriously, or have him be competititve, start a feud, only to have Cena overcome the odds and beat Sheamus in the end leading to...nothing. The problem is, none of these really lead to anything that make him a long term guy, and just lump him into the Snitsky/Knox category of big threatening hoss who winds up in the midcard for a while with no real direction. If he just gets squashed, this will make everything quick and relatively painless. It'll suck, but it's what's been done in the past. If he pulls the upset, he's still the "monster heel" who needs to be slain by the triumphant babyface, be it Cena (most likely) or Trips (a possibility). This maintains momentum for the big man, but unless they let the face, whomever that may be, get a flukish or skin of his teeth victory, which they rarely do for the top guy, the result is pretty much the same. He gets a moment on top as a massive therat, then gets beaten down by a babyface and things remain as they have been. Shaemus, meanwhile, geos back to the midcard to kill some jobbers and maybe do the IC title feud. Lastly, they build him for this, he is competitive but loses his title match. From here, it's same as above. The luster and mystique of a "killer" is now just oen more big, pale guy in the middle of the card. Sure he can kick Jamie Noble's ass, and can even hang with the top guys for a while, but he's outclassed and not in their league. Really, this boils down to WWE's history of booking. The heels, with one exception, aren't a constant threat. Even Orton, strong though he may be, is floundering right now. Sure, the matches with Kofi are damned entertaining and the two have chemistry, but does going to war with a perinnial midcarder make him a threat to Cena just because he says he is? No, he's just there. He's been rotated out while somebody else gets loaded up for Cena to take out, or Trips if it comes to that. The heel, while they need to get theirs in the end, doesn't need to be on a rinse and repeat cycle like they all have been. I'd go with this. He's been destroying faces making him look all evil, right? Fine, but have him come out next week, Orton contronts him and starts talkinga bout how he wants his title shot, how he's being screwed and all that. You've already got Sheamus being built as a badass so you have the two of them absolutely go to war. Not necessarily in the way Orton/Kofi went, but turn up the stiffness about five notches, take it throughout the building, even get others involved. Orton still looks credible, and Shaemus has taken out a bonafide main eventer. The two of them can go back and forth for a few weeks, laying into each other at every chance. Both can remain heels, but make it clear that, while Shaemus is a heel, no one on the roster can stand him. Set him apart, make him loathed equally. Now you have a real monster. You're not just relying on "he's never lost", you don't need that crutch. That way, when Cena goes over in the title match, as he more or less has to, you can have Shaemus beat the piss outta him post match and solidify him as the monster that Kane once was.
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Post by Jobes on Nov 24, 2009 9:16:55 GMT -5
This guy I know who is a regular at FCW shows told me this. Don't know if it's true, but an awesome story nonetheless.:
Apparently, Sheamus was dating this chick down in Florida, and invited her backstage to a taping. She got backstage and asked, "Is Sheamus here yet," to which someone replied, "No, Stephen (his actual name) hasn't gotten in yet," she said "No, my boyfriend's name is Sheamus."
He kayfabed to a girl he was dating. Put the belt on 'em for this sheer act of awesome old-schoolness.
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Post by Mozenrath on Nov 24, 2009 9:23:10 GMT -5
This guy I know who is a regular at FCW shows told me this. Don't know if it's true, but an awesome story nonetheless.: Apparently, Sheamus was dating this chick down in Florida, and invited her backstage to a taping. She got backstage and asked, "Is Sheamus here yet," to which someone replied, "No, Stephen (his actual name) hasn't gotten in yet," she said "No, my boyfriend's name is Sheamus." He kayfabed to a girl he was dating. Put the belt on 'em for this sheer act of awesome old-schoolness. For some reason, I picture the wives of wrestlers doing that. "The Undertaker, can you bring home milk please?" is way funnier to me than it should be.
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Post by wrestlecrapcrap on Nov 24, 2009 9:27:27 GMT -5
I don't think it really worked like that - like they think 'OMG, we need a number one contender! Who shall we pick!?' They would have planned this.
They know how good Sheamus is. If he's highly rated by HHH, it's likely he's highly rated by a lot of other guys backstage as well, who know what they are talking about. It's also likely that because of his unique look that Vince sees money in him.
Oooh btw, what is it guys? Is HHH the guy constantly holding people down? Or if he the guy pushing for talented guys to get a shot? Can't be both.
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Post by BRAINFADE on Nov 24, 2009 10:33:03 GMT -5
I'm sure he had something to do with it. But whatever it takes to get someone different in the WWE title scene is cool by me. Plus Sheamus is really good and will have no problem hanging in a main event spot. I'm all for something different, and think Sheamus has money potential. My only fear is that this will wind up being "build him up, build him up, squash" all over again. Really, I don't blame Trips if he did put in a word for the big guy, since getting him in the match is not the issue at all. The issue to me is, what now? You have three choices, squash him like they always seem to do with guys in this situation, have him pull an upset win and risk the fans not taking him seriously, or have him be competititve, start a feud, only to have Cena overcome the odds and beat Sheamus in the end leading to...nothing. The problem is, none of these really lead to anything that make him a long term guy, and just lump him into the Snitsky/Knox category of big threatening hoss who winds up in the midcard for a while with no real direction. If he just gets squashed, this will make everything quick and relatively painless. It'll suck, but it's what's been done in the past. If he pulls the upset, he's still the "monster heel" who needs to be slain by the triumphant babyface, be it Cena (most likely) or Trips (a possibility). This maintains momentum for the big man, but unless they let the face, whomever that may be, get a flukish or skin of his teeth victory, which they rarely do for the top guy, the result is pretty much the same. He gets a moment on top as a massive therat, then gets beaten down by a babyface and things remain as they have been. Shaemus, meanwhile, geos back to the midcard to kill some jobbers and maybe do the IC title feud. Lastly, they build him for this, he is competitive but loses his title match. From here, it's same as above. The luster and mystique of a "killer" is now just oen more big, pale guy in the middle of the card. Sure he can kick Jamie Noble's ass, and can even hang with the top guys for a while, but he's outclassed and not in their league. Really, this boils down to WWE's history of booking. The heels, with one exception, aren't a constant threat. Even Orton, strong though he may be, is floundering right now. Sure, the matches with Kofi are damned entertaining and the two have chemistry, but does going to war with a perinnial midcarder make him a threat to Cena just because he says he is? No, he's just there. He's been rotated out while somebody else gets loaded up for Cena to take out, or Trips if it comes to that. The heel, while they need to get theirs in the end, doesn't need to be on a rinse and repeat cycle like they all have been. I'd go with this. He's been destroying faces making him look all evil, right? Fine, but have him come out next week, Orton contronts him and starts talkinga bout how he wants his title shot, how he's being screwed and all that. You've already got Sheamus being built as a badass so you have the two of them absolutely go to war. Not necessarily in the way Orton/Kofi went, but turn up the stiffness about five notches, take it throughout the building, even get others involved. Orton still looks credible, and Shaemus has taken out a bonafide main eventer. The two of them can go back and forth for a few weeks, laying into each other at every chance. Both can remain heels, but make it clear that, while Shaemus is a heel, no one on the roster can stand him. Set him apart, make him loathed equally. Now you have a real monster. You're not just relying on "he's never lost", you don't need that crutch. That way, when Cena goes over in the title match, as he more or less has to, you can have Shaemus beat the piss outta him post match and solidify him as the monster that Kane once was. Great idea involving Orton and Sheamus there. A smart piece of booking that will keep both of them (as well as Cena at the PPV) looking strong. As for Hunter being behind his push- he probably was, but there is absolutely nothing wrong with that. Good on Hunter for putting in a word for a hot new prospect.
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Post by Slingshot Suplay on Nov 24, 2009 13:02:42 GMT -5
They conspired to hold Primo down from getting his title shot!!!
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Post by manstis1804 on Nov 24, 2009 13:27:18 GMT -5
I think Cena will make Sheamus with this match. I really think he'll pull a great match out of the dude and win, then give him his props afterward and move on.
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Post by Bubble Lead on Nov 24, 2009 13:30:46 GMT -5
Im sure it had something to do with it. The last time a guy got a push to main event this suddenly was Lesnar.
I think its far too early for it. Sheamus has potential but I am not sure if he can carry a feud with Cena this soon and is good enough in ring wise to have a PPV caliber main event. I guess we will see though, and hopefully he makes the most of this chance.
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Post by Metalheadbanger Man on Nov 24, 2009 13:37:28 GMT -5
They conspired to hold Primo down from getting his title shot!!! I'd love it if next week Primo does one of those "I'm not leaving this ring until I get my opportunity!" promos. Then Sheamus comes out and powerbombs him into oblivion. Then Orton punts him. Then Verne Troyer hits a F5 on him.
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Post by Rorschach on Nov 24, 2009 15:52:05 GMT -5
I think after this guest host GM thing ends, HHH should become the GM for Raw. He should be like the Godfather, get an office, people will constantly ask him for favors and kiss his hand. Also Shawn Micheals would be his right hand man/lacky. Let's say Sheamus wants to be #1 contender, HHH would be in his office. HHH: Remember when I created DX? Micheals: Yeah, that was a great idea boss! (Sheamus enters the room, bows to HHH, HHH holds out his hand and Sheamus kisses his hand) Sheamus: I have a gift for you, it's a weight gain/muscle building formula that is new to the market, I have personally put on 20 pounds of muscle from it. HHH: Thank you for the gift. What is your request? Sheamus: I ask a favor from you, HHH. I would like a WWE title shot. I understand Randy Orton is due to receive one, but I have heard him talking about how you abuse your power and are just an old man holding everyone down. He believes your in ring work is overated and then bragged about how great it was to punt you in the head. HHH: Randy Orton is a punk who doesn't appreciate what I have done for him. He is the lowest of scum and I will deal with him later. As for your request to receive a world title shot, I will give this to you. You seem like a loyal man and have shown me great respect. However some day I will ask for a favor from you, it could be at any time and may be great or little. (Sheamus agrees and leaves) This shall not be no-sold. ;D
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