Sheamus has heatz with the Observer

[Psychoblue]

From this week's RAW recap on the Observer site:

I would have absolutely raved about this show except for the ending. I’ve been strongly advocating the elevation of new wrestlers for ages, backing everyone from Miz to Kofi Kingston to Jack Swagger to Evan Bourne to MVP to Cody Rhodes to Ted DiBiase. But here they finally push a new guy into a main event, and it’s of all people Sheamus.

To me, the three big keys to sustained success in wrestling are wrestling ability, speaking ability and charisma. I’m cool with pushing anyone who has any of these elements. But to me, Sheamus has none. He hasn’t shown he can talk. He’s not a good wrestler. And I don’t think he has any charisma. He’s just a big stiff with a gimmicky look. The wrestler he most reminds me of is Mordecai, complete with basically the same finisher. If you don’t remember Mordecai, well, there’s a reason for that. I know Vince will always have the size fetish, but it’s so frustrating that here they are determined to put a new guy in the top picture and it’s this loser instead of one of two dozen more talented and entertaining performers.

What the hell is his problem? Did he even watch ECW where he had a very entertaining feud with Goldust, restoring the veteran's credibility and coming off strong at the same time?

[Mozenrath]

Maybe we can have Bryan Danielson play the world's smallest violin for him so he can give it 5 stars.

[Steveweiser]

I don't like Todd Martin's reports - you're meant to tell us what happened, not give us your own little snide remarks on the side. I happen to think that Sheamus has all three qualities, he's a great big man, he gets reaction from crowds, and he cut a good promo at Survivor Series, and I think last night too (haven't seen RAW yet). Plus he isn't really that hurt losing a Tables match to Cena as long as it's competitive.

[bobskutter]

Just to clarify, this is not Dave Meltzer's Raw report but is the work a dude named Todd Martin. He tends to be very harsh when it comes to certain things, and has some strange opinions at times.

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Did Sheamus use the Irish Curse on his dog or something?

[goodtimes]

Sheamus doesn't have to win the feud to come up with a major rub. As long as they don't bury him, it could be really good for him.

Isn't this what we've been clamoring for? A veteran to really put over a new kid? Austin didn't win Mania 13, after all. . .


(and no, Sheamus is not Austin - but it remains true that you don't have to "win" to win)

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Nov 24, 2009 8:28:43 GMT -5 goodtimes said:

Sheamus doesn't have to win the feud to come up with a major rub. As long as they don't bury him, it could be really good for him.

Isn't this what we've been clamoring for? A veteran to really put over a new kid? Austin didn't win Mania 13, after all. . .


(and no, Sheamus is not Austin - but it remains true that you don't have to "win" to win)

Sheamus does walk like Austin. That's something.

Plus, when even non-wrestling fans are commenting on how marvelous your facial hair is you're doing something right (don't ask, but it happened).

[Mozenrath]

Nov 24, 2009 8:28:43 GMT -5 goodtimes said:

Sheamus doesn't have to win the feud to come up with a major rub. As long as they don't bury him, it could be really good for him.

Isn't this what we've been clamoring for? A veteran to really put over a new kid? Austin didn't win Mania 13, after all. . .


(and no, Sheamus is not Austin - but it remains true that you don't have to "win" to win)

Hell, Cena got that kind of rub. Losing to Lesnar, Angle, and Undertaker, Cena had a chance to get over along with his rap gimmick, and it can be argued Miz got such a rub from Cena, since it did lead, albeit not directly, to him being US champion. It can be done, but it oculd also lead to Sheamus being like Kozlov, and losing his steam. That being said, Sheamus is a more talented wrestler, so he could be used significantly easier.

[W?Y]

I would argue with his point that he has no wrestling ability; I think Sheamus can be very entertaining in the ring.

[Throwback]

batista is gonna beat him for the spot anyway

[goodtimes]

Nov 24, 2009 8:33:21 GMT -5 Mozenrath said:

It can be done, but it oculd also lead to Sheamus being like Kozlov, and losing his steam. That being said, Sheamus is a more talented wrestler, so he could be used significantly easier.

I think Kozlov does have wrestling talent. What he doesn't have is any kind of personality. The only time I can remember him being compelling to watch was at NWO - and there were 5 other guys in that match. (Aside: I just rented the NWO DVD, so I may watch it tonight for the first time in about 8 months - I might be remembering wrong, and Kozlov is boring in that one, too.)

But to the other point re: Miz. I was just debating with someone that said Miz was ruined by the Cena squash. Maybe briefly. But he seems to be doing okay.

[Mozenrath]

Nov 24, 2009 8:41:47 GMT -5 goodtimes said:

Nov 24, 2009 8:33:21 GMT -5 Mozenrath said:

It can be done, but it oculd also lead to Sheamus being like Kozlov, and losing his steam. That being said, Sheamus is a more talented wrestler, so he could be used significantly easier.

I think Kozlov does have wrestling talent. What he doesn't have is any kind of personality. The only time I can remember hijm being compelling to watch was at NWO - and there were 5 other guys in that match. (Aside, I just rented the NWO DVD, so I may watch it tonight for the first time in about 6 months - I might be remembering wrong, and Kozlov is boring in that one, too.)

But to the other point re: Miz. I was just debating with someone that said Miz was ruined by the Cena squash. Maybe briefly. But he seems to be doing okay.

I think Miz is better off having had the feud than not. Maybe he didn't go to the main event, but out of him and Morrison, which one is more over in their role? Probably Miz.

Kozlov isn't terrible or anything, he just doesn't have a ton of depth to him. He can do some neat things, but usually he does pretty much the same shtick.

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In Miz's case, he benefited from the Cena feud in the sense that it got him heat. Honestly, up until the Cena feud did anyone expect Miz to do anything on Raw but job to... I dunno, Kofi? Primo? Festus?

Now, though, the guy's definitely over as a heel and, with a certainly audible percentage of the crowd, as a face.

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Bah, he can't have heat with the Observor. The magazine isn't in the business, it just reports about it.

Sheamus is doing great; it's not his fault nor his problem that others aren't being pushed in a way that pleases the reporter. "I've been strongly advocating the eleveation of new wrestlers for ages"... wow, you and everyone else buddy. Things is, you have no input in the matter.

[Robbymac]

I usually hate Todd Martin's reports, but he's spot on here.

There's a difference between elevating a guy to the main event, and flatly hot shotting a guy there with absolutely no build. Kofi is the former. Sheamus is the latter. One will work. One won't. I'll let you decide which is which.

[Ryushinku]

Few things are funnier than a self-righteous 'I only want the best for the company' reporter.

[The Genesis of KoOS]

lawlz he supports a spot monkey but not Sheamus.

[Clash, Never a Meter Maid]

This is just to establish Sheamus as a threat down the road, not as the Next Big Red Thing quite yet.

I like the guy a lot, but he has no business taking the title from Cena at this point in time. All Sheamus needs to do is look strong before Cena pulls out a win by a hair.

[Mozenrath]

Nov 24, 2009 9:24:12 GMT -5 Clash, Never a Meter Maid said:

This is just to establish Sheamus as a threat down the road, not as the Next Big Red Thing quite yet.

I like the guy a lot, but he has no business taking the title from Cena at this point in time. All Sheamus needs to do is look strong before Cena pulls out a win by a hair.

That's what I think will happen. I can also see Sheamus losing it when he gets put through the table, either putting Cena, or maybe a ref or something through a table himself, flipping over tabbles, just going nuts in some fashion.

[Johnny Danger (Godz)]

My main problem with Sheamus is I don't think he knows how to sell very well......he barely acted like anything Goldust did to him phased him in that feud, unless that was the point....ugh