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Post by MGH on Dec 20, 2009 23:15:05 GMT -5
No shock, Russell wins the fan's choice for player of the year.
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Post by fw91 on Dec 20, 2009 23:57:34 GMT -5
Then I do not think Russ wins All Stars. The way he is acting now, shows that he probally did not do well/win All Stars. Yeah, I got that vibe too. As for the finale goes, I am totaly pissed. Russell cleary deserved to win. But I really feel for Mick. Was he that bad of a player, that he got no votes?
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Post by Drillbit Taylor on Dec 21, 2009 0:01:37 GMT -5
So looking at the rumors on who will be there..
I have 5 horses in this. Odds are neither will win. But 2 on Villians and 3 on Heros:
Rupert Colby Bill Nye
Coach Russ
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Post by fw91 on Dec 21, 2009 0:40:42 GMT -5
Ah man if the rumors are true for urvior 20, than we might see the epic teamwork of {Spoiler}Russell, and Boston Rob!
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Post by Drillbit Taylor on Dec 21, 2009 0:54:44 GMT -5
Ah man if the rumors are true for urvior 20, than we might see the epic teamwork of {Spoiler}Russell, and Boston Rob! I wonder how long Jerri will last. And if she and Colby both make it to the merger. Oh the possibilities.
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Post by fw91 on Dec 21, 2009 1:06:25 GMT -5
Ah man if the rumors are true for urvior 20, than we might see the epic teamwork of {Spoiler}Russell, and Boston Rob! I wonder how long Jerri will last. And if she and Colby both make it to the merger. Oh the possibilities. Ah Jerri, never understood how she is an all-star. So many people were left off, or declined. Heres who I'd love to see back Rob Cesternino(Amazon, All-Stars) Jaison(Samoa) Heidi(Amazon) Terri(Panama) Yul(Cook Islands) Judd(Guatemala) Him and Russ in a pissed off fat guy alliance wouldv'e been golden. Matty(Gabon) Twila(Vanuatu) Ken(Thailand)
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Post by nate5054 on Dec 21, 2009 1:39:55 GMT -5
I absolutely hate that Shambo chick. She is probably one of the dumbest people I've ever seen. I'd wager that a bag of turnips would beat her at any meaningful thing anyone could come up with. Her behavior at the jury selection just solidified it for me.
And that Eric guy made a fantastic point. Why does lying and cheating and doing anything to win get admired by the players but being passive but decent doesn't?
Anyways, I'm glad to have seen Natalie win. Russell was a total prick and a half. And on a totally male chauvinistic note she is smoking hot.
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Post by nate5054 on Dec 21, 2009 1:45:38 GMT -5
What a load of Bull. I swear reality producers should set rules about voting so that the actual best players win. Judges instruct juries on how they are to find defendants guilty or not based on specific criteria. Boo Natalie, Boo whoever voted for her I disagree. I'm glad they voted for her. I bet after the jury watched this season and heard all of Russell's little snide comments to all of them they are happy with their votes too. And he was arrogant too, the way he was counting the five votes he "had" when they were eating breakfast together on the last day.
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Post by Drillbit Taylor on Dec 21, 2009 2:25:17 GMT -5
I wonder how long Jerri will last. And if she and Colby both make it to the merger. Oh the possibilities. Ah Jerri, never understood how she is an all-star. So many people were left off, or declined. Heres who I'd love to see back Rob Cesternino(Amazon, All-Stars) Jaison(Samoa) Heidi(Amazon) Terri(Panama) Yul(Cook Islands) Judd(Guatemala) Him and Russ in a pissed off fat guy alliance wouldv'e been golden. Matty(Gabon) Twila(Vanuatu) Ken(Thailand) This is what Reality TV Gossip says Men {Spoiler}Colby Donaldson, Australia/ All-Stars: Rob Mariano, Marquesas/ All-Stars Rupert Boneham, Pearl Islands/ All-Stars Tom Westman, Palau James Clement, China/ Micronesia Randy Bailey, Gabon James “J.T.” Thomas Jr., Tocantins Benjamin “Coach” Wade, Tocantins Tyson Apostol, Tocantins Russell Hantz, Samoa Women {Spoiler}Jerri Manthey, Australia/ All-Stars Sandra Diaz-Twine, Pearl Islands Stephenie LaGrossa, Palau/ Guatemala Danielle DiLorenzo, Exile Island Cirie Fields, Exile Island/ Micronesia Parvati Shallow, Cook Islands/ Micronesia Candice Woodcock, Cook Islands Amanda Kimmel, China/ Micronesia Courtney Yates, China Jessica “Sugar” Kiper, Gabon No Africa or first season love. Kelly, Gervus, Greg or Brandon/Frank would be fresh air from those seasons
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Post by Allison Reynolds on Dec 21, 2009 2:38:19 GMT -5
I am a bit annoyed with the thought that Natalie was undeserving and Russell was the one to really deserve it. It is outwit, outplay, outlast. The game is not just about the outwitting strategy, but also the social strategy that Natalie used really well to her benefit. Simply put, Russell was outplayed by Natalie in that aspect. Ah man if the rumors are true for urvior 20, than we might see the epic teamwork of {Spoiler}Russell, and Parvati. Fixed, from what I think will happen.
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Post by Dirty Hazy on Dec 21, 2009 2:38:21 GMT -5
All I can say is....
"WHAT!?!"
I am in utter SHOCK right now. I never for a moment thought NATALIE would win!!!!
She did NOTHING to deserve the win, NOTHING WHATSOEVER!!!
I thought for sure that Russell had it all through the final jury.
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Post by Stephanie McMahon Fan on Dec 21, 2009 3:05:07 GMT -5
damn! I shouldn't have read this thread.
Now i know who won. Dang it.
Anyway, pretty shocking results from what i read here.
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Post by Shy Guy on Dec 21, 2009 18:22:44 GMT -5
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Post by WhiteFu on Dec 21, 2009 22:01:38 GMT -5
Survivor fans sure have changed since Season 1. Remember when how Richard Hatch was hated for daring to even have a strategy?
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Post by GregP19 on Dec 22, 2009 0:18:07 GMT -5
Just to echo Jaison, Eric and a couple other people on the board, I still don't get the difference between using decite (sp) and beiing a jerk and riding someones coat tails. What makes the former more admirable than the latter? Russell believing that the jury wouldn't be bitter was a GROSS underestimation on his part. If he was "the ultimate survivor" he should have known what to expect. Everything is part of the game.
I can't wait for Heroes VS Villans, I've been off of Survivor for awhile, but I think I feel like I'm coming back...It's like the early 00's all over again!
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Post by BlackHoleMark on Dec 22, 2009 0:51:45 GMT -5
Just to echo Jaison, Eric and a couple other people on the board, I still don't get the difference between using decite (sp) and beiing a jerk and riding someones coat tails. What makes the former more admirable than the latter? Russell believing that the jury wouldn't be bitter was a GROSS underestimation on his part. If he was "the ultimate survivor" he should have known what to expect. Everything is part of the game. I can't wait for Heroes VS Villans, I've been off of Survivor for awhile, but I think I feel like I'm coming back...It's like the early 00's all over again! Here's why I think Russell should have won. Without playing that immunity idol and getting Kelly out, the four Foa Foa would have been picked off all in a row. Who found that immunity idol? Russell. Who thought up that plan? Russell. That moment changed the game and essentially won it for Natalie.
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Post by Threadkiller [Classic] on Dec 22, 2009 17:49:06 GMT -5
From my post in the Survivor winners poll thread:
Look, I love Russell. He was the best part about this season. But the kind of game he was playing was the kind of game that was only going to get him in front of the jury. He was never going to win. I'm sorry.
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Post by Dirty Hazy on Dec 23, 2009 3:08:55 GMT -5
Hopefully Russell gets another chance, I'd love to see how he'd play the next time out. Would he still be lucky with immunity idols? Will there even BE hidden idols? I can see new rules coming into play due to it or the ending of them all together. Not sure how much they really even add or take away from the game in the first place.
Also, it'd be interesting to see a Survivor All Star type season consisting of people who got voted off within the first 2-4 votes. The ones that for whatever reason, never got the chance to stick around. Maybe a fluke accident victim like black Russel from this year, or anyone else who had a bad injury that wasn't something like near heart attack. I don't however want people who just couldn't hack being there and asked to be voted out, if any of those fit the criteria.
I'd love to hear what you all think of my idea.
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Post by Drillbit Taylor on Dec 23, 2009 3:13:21 GMT -5
Hopefully Russell gets another chance, I'd love to see how he'd play the next time out. Would he still be lucky with immunity idols? Will there even BE hidden idols? I can see new rules coming into play due to it or the ending of them all together. Not sure how much they really even add or take away from the game in the first place. Also, it'd be interesting to see a Survivor All Star type season consisting of people who got voted off within the first 2-4 votes. The ones that for whatever reason, never got the chance to stick around. Maybe a fluke accident victim like black Russel from this year, or anyone else who had a bad injury that wasn't something like near heart attack. I don't however want people who just couldn't hack being there and asked to be voted out, if any of those fit the criteria. I'd love to hear what you all think of my idea. I was thinking of something Similar. But with people 7 and up AKA first few Jurry members. Because you can still get people like Greg.
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Post by Dirty Hazy on Dec 23, 2009 3:18:33 GMT -5
Hopefully Russell gets another chance, I'd love to see how he'd play the next time out. Would he still be lucky with immunity idols? Will there even BE hidden idols? I can see new rules coming into play due to it or the ending of them all together. Not sure how much they really even add or take away from the game in the first place. Also, it'd be interesting to see a Survivor All Star type season consisting of people who got voted off within the first 2-4 votes. The ones that for whatever reason, never got the chance to stick around. Maybe a fluke accident victim like black Russel from this year, or anyone else who had a bad injury that wasn't something like near heart attack. I don't however want people who just couldn't hack being there and asked to be voted out, if any of those fit the criteria. I'd love to hear what you all think of my idea. I was thinking of something Similar. But with people 7 and up AKA first few Jurry members. Because you can still get people like Greg. Compromise?.... "Early Outers vs Later Outers"?
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