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Post by American Dragon on Jan 11, 2010 0:32:44 GMT -5
I'm one of the (apparently few) people who can separate the man and the worker. And honestly, what the man did isn't any of my business, or anybody else for that matter IMO. The worker, however, still remains one of the best workers in the history of the business. Couldn't agree any more
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Post by cernex on Jan 11, 2010 0:48:56 GMT -5
Never had a problem with watching his matches after that incident either. This
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Post by xxshoyuweeniexx on Jan 11, 2010 0:52:02 GMT -5
I'm one of the (apparently few) people who can separate the man and the worker. And honestly, what the man did isn't any of my business, or anybody else for that matter IMO. The worker, however, still remains one of the best workers in the history of the business. This. I don't blame people if they can't stand Benoit, I don't blame them if they hate everything, wrestler, person, all that. But I can look past that, I hate the man but I will always and forever refer to him as one of the greatest to lace up a pair of boots. He is the perfect example of what to do and what not to do if you want to become a successful profession wrestler.
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Post by BxB on Jan 11, 2010 1:00:42 GMT -5
I tried watching his matches after his death, but lost interest after a short while. I'm pretty much "meh" about Chris Benoit.
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Post by KevFalcön07 on Jan 11, 2010 1:53:47 GMT -5
I'm one of the (apparently few) people who can separate the man and the worker. And honestly, what the man did isn't any of my business, or anybody else for that matter IMO. The worker, however, still remains one of the best workers in the history of the business. Add one more here for this one. That's all I wanted to leave it at.
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Post by Sumbody Gon' Get Dey Kneelift on Jan 11, 2010 2:09:05 GMT -5
I was curious, so I went and watched the triple threat with HBK and HHH.
It's awesome.
So I guess I'm a deeply sick person.
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Post by Hawk Hart on Jan 11, 2010 2:27:51 GMT -5
I found myself watching some Mania DVDs recently that had Benoit in the event. I even watched WM20. I am not going to deny what he did by any means. Hell, I sometimes wonder if has been proven that he did it or not. Apart from that, I can see how awkward it is to watch the WM20 main event and post match celebration. I even have Backlash 2004, but I bought that DVD a year before the incident happened. Of course, I found myself watching some of that recently and think to myself "I bet they stopped making the DVDs for this event.". Here's why: -The cover art contained Benoit -The Chris Benoit Day segment at the PPV (I wonder how the people of Edmonton feel about this now) -The shots of Nancy and Daniel in the crowd during the main event. Honestly, I found myself still enjoying the Angle/Benoit match at WM17, the triple threat match at WM20, and the MITB match at WM21. I kind of moved on from it. I am not acting like it never happened, but I sometimes think what if he didn't go home then. I wonder if his mind would've been on the match with CM Punk that night had he taken part at Vengeance. If I were to get ahold of any DVDs with him in it, I'd rather it be through Amazon or a used copy at a new/used store, because I can only imagine if WM20 was rereleased (Believe it or not, I bought my copy of that event at Walmart during the summer. I was surprised to see that no changes were made) and there are two things I can only imagine how it would be: 1. The main event would be omitted altogether. 2. Pretty much an outline of a blank person/silhouette being used for Benoit and JR and King being censored when they say his name. The more realistic approach would be the first one, but you get what I mean. I bought the Tagged Classics version of that Backlash last year, it's from what I remember, totally intact. The only change is Benoit isn't on the cover art.
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Post by Irish Nightmare on Jan 11, 2010 2:32:38 GMT -5
The only time it bothers me is when I see him in a really violent match or in a match where he gets injured, like TLC III. I didn't see the match, but I've seen clips from collections people have on youtube, but have you seen the one match where he dove off the ladder with a broken nose and got up with blood coming out of his mouth, nose and whatnot. It kinda gives you the creeps after the fact. BTW, does anyone have this to post?
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Post by OGBoardPoster2005 on Jan 11, 2010 2:54:46 GMT -5
I have not watched a Chris Benoit match since the Raw Tribute in 2007. For the time being I have no plans of watching any Benoit match. Its ashame really, I enjoyed the 2004 Royal Rumble match but I can't force myself to ever watch it again(til I feel comfortable). The same goes for the entire Backlash PPV and WM 20 main event. Hell I have the Benoit DVD and it just sits on my shelf untouched since 2007. Idk when I'll be able to whether it be 2012, 2017, 2027, 2032, hell it may not be til 2057 that I watch any Benoit things ever again.
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Post by hajimenoippo on Jan 11, 2010 3:51:57 GMT -5
WWE won't use his matches in DVDs anymore besides the Big 4 Collections or tagged classics. The most we can get is the Arm, leg, or a glimpse of him in the TLC 4 match on the smackdown countdown.
Let's be realistic here. Benoit's matches are all on youtube, readily available for viewing no matter how much you complain about WWE not putting him on 24/7 or on DVD's, his matches, promos, entire career is available on youtube.
WWE chooses not to make profit off of his name in respect to Nancy Benoit's family, and off of common sense.
From the point he was found to be a murderer he will be only seen as a murderer no 5 star match will erase that.
People can remember him, but they can't force everybody else to remember him. ImO he doesn't deserve it.
he's in the encyclopedia and he's just one of many patricidal murder/suicide cases.
He's no different from Scott Peterson, except Scott thought he could get away with it. so why does it make him special to be fondly remembered? Because he died.
That's how I feel. If benoit didn't kill himself, went through trial, and was found guilty all his supporters wouldn't be as numerous, but since he died he has apologist, conspiracy theorist, and all that junk
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Post by egyptianblizzard on Jan 11, 2010 4:15:56 GMT -5
Now after all this time has passed, have you found your peace with the situation, are you able to watch him wrestle again? I will be honest. I cried when I found out the truth. But, I was always able to separate the man from the wrestler. I can understand why the annuls of pro wrestling will delete him, and there is no argument from me. There is no way I am going to diminish his talents. Benoit was the best in ring performer I have ever seen.
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Post by Ryushinku on Jan 11, 2010 5:43:04 GMT -5
I'm still uncomfortable with watching his matches.
It's not that I can't do it, it's that I whenever I see him working in there it's what I end up thinking about most. I can't enjoy his work, I feel detached.
Many in time that'll change, but not at the moment.
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Post by Cry Me a Wiggle on Jan 11, 2010 5:55:45 GMT -5
The earlier the match or storyline the easier it is to watch, since it's easy to disassociate that Benoit with the Benoit he became. I have no problem watching his WCW stuff, but anything after WrestleMania XX gets a little too dodgy, since who knows what's rattling around in his head at that point.
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Post by Jimichiro Likes Erick Rowan on Jan 11, 2010 6:25:09 GMT -5
I can watch his matches today, but I always get a little depressed knowing what I know now.
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Post by mainsupreme on Jan 11, 2010 7:20:57 GMT -5
No problems here. He was a great worker who just didn;t have enoguh charisma to get over big time.
I can seperate the character completely from the person.
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Post by mattyc on Jan 11, 2010 7:57:20 GMT -5
Can I watch a Chris Benoit match and appreciate the art and just what a phenomenal wrestler he was? Yes I can, He was one of the best of all time and his death does not change that fact.
Can I enjoy a Chris Benoit to the same level I could prior to his death and forget the events of his death? No, I’d like to but I can’t.
When thinking of Chris Benoit I can separate the performer and the wrestling memories from the death, but not 100%... his death is still a dark cloud hanging over it all that never goes away, and it sort of taints everything Benoit related for me somewhat.
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Post by Sharpy Snow on Jan 11, 2010 8:02:44 GMT -5
I'm sorry to kinda ruin what is no doubt a serious conversation in here, but I misread this as "Chris Benoit Released" and my brain kinda melted...
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Post by Dynamite Kid on Jan 11, 2010 8:03:00 GMT -5
A lot of his work is ruined for me. The emotion of the 2004 Rumble and Mania are gone.
I can enjoy his work in spite of him, but not because of him. I can appreciate his 2003 Rumble title match on the level of being a great match, but I can't appreciate him as a worker any more.
I would no longer seek out his matches.
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Post by The Peoples Elbow on Jan 11, 2010 8:04:53 GMT -5
No, I won't watch any of his matches. I won't forget what damage he did to his family or this business. I'm sorry if this offends anyone, but there's just certain things you can't forget.
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Post by TheDieselTrain on Jan 11, 2010 8:11:34 GMT -5
Not to come off as heartless but I got over it pretty fast. Its not my place to judge so I can watch like nothing happened. I wasnt there and there's isnt and video evidence only people imagnations so seeing him put a crossface on someone doesnt bother me. I'm sorry but what he did might have been horrible but it didnt personally effect me. I still mark when his themes come on my ipod and I still have my Benoit DVD and will watch it again since I havent even seen all the matches on it yet.
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