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Post by The Summer of Muskrat XVII on Nov 25, 2009 19:11:01 GMT -5
I'm gonna start of by saying that I respect the hell out of Bruno. Without him there is no WWWF/WWF/WWE, period. However, his logic is really flawed here. He's basically getting mad at modern wrestling for selling crappy apples, when they stopped selling apples and started selling oranges over 20 years ago. That, sir, may be the greatest analogy I've ever read on these forums. Glad someone appreciated it!! You're kind words have now gone in my sig, until someone else says something nice about me. It usually happens about once a year, so you'll be around for awhile!!
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Post by tarheelfan on Nov 26, 2009 0:32:46 GMT -5
I think a key point that needs to be stated again like some earlier posters alluded to that Bruno was a top draw in the Northeastern part of the United States and the nearby Canada area. No one doubts that Bruno was huge at MSG and sold out the arena many times. The difference is that Hogan sold out arenas all across the country. Now to be fair Bruno was a product of the territorial system but Bruno did have an advantage of being a big fish in a big pond of the very populous Northeast territory area. But like an earlier poster alluded to would Bruno have drawn had he traveled the whole US territorial circuit like many wrestlers of that era did. Hogan proved he could draw the whole United States and Canada and was big in Japan. I'm not sure Bruno could have drawn as much outside the Northeastern territory. I think a unique comparison to think about is if we bring Flair into the argument. I see Flair as someone who may have not drawn as much in the Northeast as Bruno did but on the whole Flair likely would have drawn more than Bruno on average throughout the whole United States territory system. I see Bruno as a more popular version of the Von Erics who were extremely popular in Texas but not as big a draw in other geographical territories in the United States.
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Post by segaz on Nov 27, 2009 22:58:33 GMT -5
Well I respect what Bruno accomplished. No question about that. He is a legend and should be regarded as one. But: Like it has been said before, he is way behind times. Whether it is a good thing or a bad thing, the business is a much different landscape today then was in the 70s. But in all fairness, the 70's were a lot different then in the 20s. I realize that when I'm 60 years old I will complain that the product is different and it used to be better. It's almost sad for me to read this. I don't necessarily want to say he's jealous, but there is definitely an essence there. Or at least that's the way it comes across. Same for me. I truly believe from like 1985 till 2002 were the best times to be a wrestling fan, and todays product can't compare. But 'punk kids' will tell me I'm wrong, that wrestling today is better than it's ever been. A tear appears in my eye. Is it all rose-tinted glasses? Am I just a bitter ol late 20s-something?
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Post by Dynamite Kid on Nov 28, 2009 11:51:15 GMT -5
Bruno Sammartino is a scary, scary man who knows a lot about the business.
He knows nothing about the business NOW though, it would seem.
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Post by squaredcircle on Nov 29, 2009 18:00:53 GMT -5
that said... Bruno comes over like a bitter old man. he's bitter about apples when the world is now oranges. it's sad. yeah, it was a pretty good analogy. ![::)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/eyesroll.png)
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Post by segaz on Feb 7, 2010 12:11:18 GMT -5
This is a very clear and sort of sad picture about a guy who had the business move on without him and never figured out how to move with it. He seems to think that the regional model is the only one that matters, and that it's great that guys from his era are crippled now. That's...just sad. No, No, if you really look closely you'll see what he's getting at. You wear those bruises like a badge of honour. This my friends, was REAL wrestling, when you got brusied up weekly, it seperated the men from the boys. He never says "It's great that we now are in wheelchairs, it's great we have injuriy lists a mile long." It's like......how can I explain it? It's like when you used to go grocery shopping every week. You'd go down to the stores, and you'd wait in a queue, you may have to deal with other peoples sweat, rude remarks, loud music, you may see a homeless guy on the streets, you may even get robbed or ran over. And the shop might even be out of stock of the item you want. AND you'd have to have money on you, or chequebook, or Debit/Credit card. You'd have to freaking get ready to go to the shops, you'd have to get dressed, you might have to deal with it being rainy or windy. Now you just sit in front of your computer and order whatever you want from the internet. Sure it's easier, sure it's more convieniant, sure it's less of a hassle, sure it's quicker, faster, etc. You never have to leave your house or get dressed. You don't have to deal with dogs or people of different ethinic minorities, if you're a self styled 'true patriot'. No kids screaming or crying, no need to take the car or use public transport, no need to trip up on the pavements. No, just stay inside and keep wrapped up warm. And that's your idea of better. ![:'(](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/cry.png) p.s. the REAL reason I reposted here was to see if anyone has the whole interview. I tried the link, but apparatnly you have to pay, and I can't do that. I'm sorry. I'm a man of my word.
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Post by repomanfan on Feb 7, 2010 13:25:51 GMT -5
I like Bruno, but for someone, who claims they don't watch the sport anymore, he sure knows a hell of a lot about the day to day politics, rumors, and goings on, in the world of wrestling.
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