spagett
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Post by spagett on May 18, 2010 16:20:17 GMT -5
I honestly think Jim Ross' second heel turn could've been good. He was like a bitter old man you wanted to hate, but you just had to feel sorry for him because of the hell he's been through. Maybe not the worst heel turn, but Triple H's 2000 heel turn seemed so abrupt and desperate to salvage the "Rikishi running over Austin" diabolical. He was getting over as a tweener face. The problem is for JR to turn heel successfully you needed a beloved babyface commentator to get behind. Instead we were supposed to cheer for Michael freaking Cole. No wonder the people cheered when JR kicked him in the nuts.
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Post by flatsdomino on May 18, 2010 19:32:09 GMT -5
Pretty much ANY Angle turn, but especially the ones during the InVasion.
Tatanka and Bulldog's turns on Luger, when all along it was Luger who should have been a heel.
How bout Hardcore Holly returning with the fans respect on ECW after the horrible table incident...and promptly sided with Heyman, killing any momentum he might've had. reminded me of Buff Bagwell in WCW, and HHH the night after WM X-7. The fans want to cheer the guy BADLY, so why not ride that?
Or alternately, turning an over face heel to feed him to a less-over "top guy", ignoring that each and every time the more over face will still get cheered over the golden boy. Cena and jericho in the summer of '05 is a good example, but a betterone is Sid and HBK in '96 - They weren't just booing Shawn at Survivor Series because it was NYC, they booed him because they were loyal to Sid.
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kingoftheiwc
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Post by kingoftheiwc on May 18, 2010 20:23:34 GMT -5
How about Coach 2003 heres a guy that liked persona and they turned him heel which lead to what his demise and exit into mainstream media.
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Post by flatsdomino on May 18, 2010 20:28:40 GMT -5
Gregory Helms, turns head to the left.
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Post by jivesoulbrah on May 18, 2010 21:10:31 GMT -5
Or how about Mike Knox attacking Rey Mysterio, his reason: "I don't know?"
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"Hollywood" Cactus Matt
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Post by "Hollywood" Cactus Matt on May 18, 2010 21:16:29 GMT -5
Or how about Mike Knox attacking Rey Mysterio, his reason: "I don't know?" Knox was already a heel, though, so that doesn't count as a heel turn.
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mike5286
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Post by mike5286 on May 19, 2010 17:09:58 GMT -5
Marc Mero guy gets injured and is out for 6 months and comes back as a heel with no real explanation.
Owen Hart's turn on Ken Shamrock to join the Nation.
Al Snow in late 1999 mever quite understood the reasoning behind it.
Edge in 2004 granted it helped is career a ton but why did he turn so randomly it just seemed like one week he came out got booed and OK i'm a heel now know explanation just they're booing i guess i'm a heel.
Val Venis joins Right to Censor
Tazz and The Dudley Boyz join the WCW/ECW side in the Invasion no real explanation for either although the explanation for Taz would've been the simplest explanation of all. Tazz gets a big build coming in to WWF beats Angle in Madison Square Garden and then within a couple of months his push is dead.
Shane Mcmahon's turn on Austin at Survivor Series 98.
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Post by derangedhermit on May 19, 2010 17:28:27 GMT -5
Or how about Mike Knox attacking Rey Mysterio, his reason: "I don't know?" Oh, that ruled. The way he said it made it sound like he was bored and did it for the hell of it.
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Allie Kitsune
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Post by Allie Kitsune on May 19, 2010 17:34:37 GMT -5
Rikishi's heel turn was horrible. Rikishi and Too Cool were way, way over. Then the WWF decide to run that 'Who ran over Stone Cold?' angle. Great, we have Mick Foley investigating. But it was obvious who was behind it. I mean Triple H's lackeys (I seem to remember that it was Road Dogg and X-Pac) locked Stone Cold out of the building, Triple H was the one who capitalised. But that wouldn't make a good angle. So, they needed a swerve. Hey, lets try Rikishi! (Honestly? when Mick announced that it was Rikishi, I thought it was a 'Mick Foley Goofy Joke', and I laughed) Oops, didn't work too well, doesn't help that they immediately changed the happy-go-lucky dancing sumo-guy that everyone loved into EVIL GANGSTA RIKISHI. Okay, you just destroyed one of your most over guys. Hey, cheer up, you've still got Too Cool... wait, Rikishi just squashed them, they're off TV. Oh you've brought in Haku to team with Rikishi! But Haku sucks, and you just killed the WCW Hardcore division. Yes a heel turn so bad, it made another promotion suck more! (yeah, I know, they'd have got Haku/Meng in anyway, just to screw with WCW) His face turn was worse. Mick Foley: Stop being bad! Rikishi: Okay *dances* See, I like to imagine that Foley actually had total mind control over Rikishi, and could turn him good or evil at will. He said Rikishi was evil, and so he was. He told Rikishi to be good, and so he was. Foley should have come out and turned Rikishi back and forth multiple times in the same show.
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