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Post by Ass Dan on Dec 3, 2010 18:44:46 GMT -5
Remember last year, when Rage Against the Machine's "Killing in the Name" beat out Joe McElderry's "The Climb" for Christmas No. 1? Well, it's that time of the year again: catm.co.uk/Here's a performance of 4'33'': It's still better than anything Mary, Matt, Rebecca, Cher, or One Dimension would do. So sign up and Cage Against the Machine! |
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Post by DiBiase is Good on Dec 3, 2010 18:54:17 GMT -5
That 4:33 is one of the most pretentious things I've ever heard (or not heard).
And I disagree on the better than anything Matt Cardle can put out comment, that man can sing. Simon Cowell will probably give him a ballad with high production values to sing. Which is a shame because if he released his version of "The First Time ever I saw your Face" I'd buy it.
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Post by Marvelously Mediocre on Dec 3, 2010 19:05:52 GMT -5
both Matt and Rebecca are more than capable of coming out with a great single. Even Cher is better than five minutes of silence. Barely.
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Post by Red Lion on Dec 3, 2010 19:07:02 GMT -5
A very up-your-own arse hipster-ish thing to do.
But I'd rather it be our campaign for number one rather than Bird is the bloody Word
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Post by Hugh Mungus on Dec 3, 2010 20:37:51 GMT -5
I thought that this was about Mortal Kombat's Johnny Cage.
What would the reaction be if Rick Astley's "Never Gonna Give You Up" topped the UK Christmas charts?
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Post by Ass Dan on Dec 3, 2010 20:44:22 GMT -5
I thought that this was about Mortal Kombat's Johnny Cage. What would the reaction be if Rick Astley's "Never Gonna Give You Up" topped the UK Christmas charts? Astley is old hat. That hasn't been funny in years. |
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Post by FinalGwen on Dec 3, 2010 21:52:16 GMT -5
Well, it's as empty musically as last year's Christmas #1 was ideologically (Woo, Anarchy! Yeah! No idea what the State of Nature or Social Contract is! But yeah, I'm awesome and edgy!), so in that respect it fits well with the theme.
I'm all for letting something beat Cowell, but can't we actually try and celebrate the best of contemporary music with our #1s as was meant to be the point, or even just get something relevant to the season? (Also, they should ideally try and pick a band who aren't under the same record label as Cowell like RATM. Last year, Sony made money from Simon Cowell from both his fans and his haters, making his position even more secure.)
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Post by spec on Dec 3, 2010 22:25:17 GMT -5
That was really f***ing dumb.
I'll take it over any x-factor shit though.
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Post by Ass Dan on Dec 3, 2010 23:01:53 GMT -5
Well, it's as empty musically as last year's Christmas #1 was ideologically (Woo, Anarchy! Yeah! No idea what the State of Nature or Social Contract is! But yeah, I'm awesome and edgy!), so in that respect it fits well with the theme. I'm all for letting something beat Cowell, but can't we actually try and celebrate the best of contemporary music with our #1s as was meant to be the point, or even just get something relevant to the season? (Also, they should ideally try and pick a band who aren't under the same record label as Cowell like RATM. Last year, Sony made money from Simon Cowell from both his fans and his haters, making his position even more secure.) If you want to argue with the guys over their choice, go ahead. I'm not bothering, because I don't live there, and also understand the meaning of 4'33''. |
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Post by Red Lion on Dec 3, 2010 23:02:24 GMT -5
Last year, Sony made money from Simon Cowell from both his fans and his haters, making his position even more secure.) The campaign stressed again, and again, and again, and again (due to the press orgasming over this neat little fact) that money was not a factor. The Rage Factor campaign was done to make the Christmas Number One race a fun one again, after years of X Factor dominance. |
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Post by Viking Snad on Dec 4, 2010 15:46:26 GMT -5
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Post by DiBiase is Good on Dec 4, 2010 16:03:47 GMT -5
The Slipknot guy? I'd rather buy 4 and a half minutes of silence. I'll admit that the race for Christmas #1 has become stale recently. But that's not Cowell's fault. If people really want to make the race for Christmas #1 an exciting thing again, maybe they should stop moaning at Simon Cowell and start moaning at the acts who don't put out strong singles at Christmas. We don't need these campaigns to get songs to #1. If a song is good enough and promoted well, then people will buy it. I don't like people buying records out of spite, which is exactly what these campaigns encourage. |
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Post by Viking Snad on Dec 4, 2010 16:12:29 GMT -5
The Slipknot guy? I'd rather buy 4 and a half minutes of silence. I'll admit that the race for Christmas #1 has become stale recently. But that's not Cowell's fault. If people really want to make the race for Christmas #1 an exciting thing again, maybe they should stop moaning at Simon Cowell and start moaning at the acts who don't put out strong singles at Christmas. We don't need these campaigns to get songs to #1. If a song is good enough and promoted well, then people will buy it. I don't like people buying records out of spite, which is exactly what these campaigns encourage. Good thing it's only two and a half minutes.  |
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Post by whitecrxsses on Dec 4, 2010 16:13:54 GMT -5
On the subject of X Factor, who would rather have Wagner release something?
I would.
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Post by A Platypus Rave on Dec 4, 2010 16:41:18 GMT -5
It's called 4'33 because of it's length I believe.
the song is kinda pretentious, though from what I remember it stems from Cage's Buddhism... and the true music of the song is any incidental noise that happens during it.... which of course is kind of lost if you buy a single of it -_-
Also from what I remember hearing the sheet music is filled with random rests instead of just being full rests or blank... and I always thought that was kind of funny.
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Post by KAMALARAMBO: BOOMSHAKALAKA!!! on Dec 4, 2010 16:55:28 GMT -5
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Post by "Gizzark" Mike Wronglevenay on Dec 4, 2010 18:22:12 GMT -5
f*** that, f*** that, f*** that f*** THAT.
I hate this pretentious bullshit John Cage song and everything about it, I would much rather sooner see X-Factor at number one.
But apart from anything else, at least people WANT to buy the X-Factor singles! The only reason Rage hit number one is because of spite, it's just stupid and the people don't realise that what they do is WORSE THAN X-FACTOR.
At least X-Factor was a NEW single that was out at the time.
I miss when Christmas Number Ones were a competition between several different artists releasing Christmas-themed songs at the same time. Or at least new singles full stop!
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Post by Deleted on Dec 4, 2010 18:28:02 GMT -5
I think 4'33" is genius.
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Post by Bobafett on Dec 4, 2010 18:46:03 GMT -5
f*** that, f*** that, f*** that f*** THAT. I hate this pretentious bulls*** John Cage song and everything about it, I would much rather sooner see X-Factor at number one. But apart from anything else, at least people WANT to buy the X-Factor singles! The only reason Rage hit number one is because of spite, it's just stupid and the people don't realise that what they do is WORSE THAN X-FACTOR. At least X-Factor was a NEW single that was out at the time. I miss when Christmas Number Ones were a competition between several different artists releasing Christmas-themed songs at the same time. Or at least new singles full stop! butthe X factor song as a cover of a song that was out earlier the same year..how bloody lazy are they? |
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Post by eJm on Dec 4, 2010 18:51:43 GMT -5
f*** that, f*** that, f*** that f*** THAT. I hate this pretentious bulls*** John Cage song and everything about it, I would much rather sooner see X-Factor at number one. But apart from anything else, at least people WANT to buy the X-Factor singles! The only reason Rage hit number one is because of spite, it's just stupid and the people don't realise that what they do is WORSE THAN X-FACTOR. At least X-Factor was a NEW single that was out at the time. I miss when Christmas Number Ones were a competition between several different artists releasing Christmas-themed songs at the same time. Or at least new singles full stop! I miss a time when Christmas Number Ones weren't so serious and people didn't act when there was all this credibility in getting it. Let's face it, the Christmas Number One was always the biggest selling song of the year. That's it. It's not like winning an award or headlining a major event, it's recognition that people have brought your single the most in the year. Just to add to that, Bob the Builder, Mr Blobby and The Teletubbies all had Christmas Number Ones. Why? Because it's Christmas, you can get away with it and, again, it's not 'super serial'. Music won't die if an X-Factor contestant gets to Number One but if you don't like it, look at what's being released that week and buy that instead. Or hell, do what I do and not buy anything because, since downloads and MP3s have come along, the charts have become pointless to me. |
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