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Post by GuyOfOwnage on May 6, 2011 11:37:29 GMT -5
Just saw Kharma Alicia on youtube,a couple of things,Layla certainly isnt a face and pretty much is the same character as she was with Laycool,not to mention a as she ran away,while Alicia was more face like and actually staying in the ring and defending herself against Kharma,to no avail.Alica looked hurt after being pushed down though,and loved the crowd chanting one more time for Kharma to give Alica the implant buster. Kharma's no-sell after Alicia's kick was just brilliant, and that clothesline looked stiff as hell. And the hang time on that Implant Buster? DAMN. The whole thing reminded me of the first time someone went after Kane in 1997. Just plain brutal and a brilliantly executed segment.
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Post by BigJerichool222 on May 6, 2011 11:39:35 GMT -5
Also, people are actually blaming Orton for the booking? That makes no sense.
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Post by FailedGimmick on May 6, 2011 11:42:36 GMT -5
I hope Alicia isn't hurt, and that was just a good sell job.
I couldn't really see where she could have gotten hurt, unless she didn't get her hands down to brace the impact fast enough.
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Post by ben:friendship frog on May 6, 2011 11:46:21 GMT -5
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Post by carp (SPC, Itoh Respect Army) on May 6, 2011 13:15:00 GMT -5
I guess that really goes to show the discrepancy between places like this and most of the WWE Universe. UNDER-F***ING-STATEMENT of the CENTURY. Small minority indeed. The entire board could boycott WWE and nothing would happen. Um, or maybe the fans in attendence were excited for a Big Event title change to happen while they were live to see it? They totally thought Orton wouldn't win and he did and that's exciting? There are kids who are sick of Orton; there are kids who are sick of Orton who popped when he won. Setting ourselves apart from the "majority" of wrestling fans isn't justified and it's actually kind of self-aggrandizing, even if the point is how unimportant we are. Fans are fans; there aren't these two separate worlds.
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Post by FUNK_US/BRODUS on May 6, 2011 13:21:52 GMT -5
UNDER-F***ING-STATEMENT of the CENTURY. Small minority indeed. The entire board could boycott WWE and nothing would happen. Um, or maybe the fans in attendence were excited for a Big Event title change to happen while they were live to see it? They totally thought Orton wouldn't win and he did and that's exciting? There are kids who are sick of Orton; there are kids who are sick of Orton who popped when he won. Setting ourselves apart from the "majority" of wrestling fans isn't justified and it's actually kind of self-aggrandizing, even if the point is how unimportant we are. Fans are fans; there aren't these two separate worlds. This. People like to perpetuate the idea that the IWC are nothing but contrarians to whats popular.
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Post by EzioAuditoreDaFirenze on May 6, 2011 13:24:14 GMT -5
Um, or maybe the fans in attendence were excited for a Big Event title change to happen while they were live to see it? They totally thought Orton wouldn't win and he did and that's exciting? There are kids who are sick of Orton; there are kids who are sick of Orton who popped when he won. Setting ourselves apart from the "majority" of wrestling fans isn't justified and it's actually kind of self-aggrandizing, even if the point is how unimportant we are. Fans are fans; there aren't these two separate worlds. This. People like to perpetuate the idea that the IWC are nothing but contrarians to whats popular. This. Again.
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Post by The Cole Mine on May 6, 2011 13:24:47 GMT -5
UNDER-F***ING-STATEMENT of the CENTURY. Small minority indeed. The entire board could boycott WWE and nothing would happen. Um, or maybe the fans in attendence were excited for a Big Event title change to happen while they were live to see it? They totally thought Orton wouldn't win and he did and that's exciting? There are kids who are sick of Orton; there are kids who are sick of Orton who popped when he won. Setting ourselves apart from the "majority" of wrestling fans isn't justified and it's actually kind of self-aggrandizing, even if the point is how unimportant we are. Fans are fans; there aren't these two separate worlds. Yeah....sure. I guess when Cena won the WWE Title the other night, those same kids just popped cause a title was changed hands not be cause of who won it. Keep telling yourself that.
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Post by Savage Gambino on May 6, 2011 13:26:40 GMT -5
I can't wait until WWE releases pictures, I got a perfect one in mind...Orton holding the belt with Christian on his back..."PROBLEM PEEPS?" Also, I wish WWE would go into peoples homes and film reactions. It would be a goldmine of reactions looking at how everyone here has reacted to this. It would put all of the crying Cena fans to shame. Y'know, this reminds me of this thread from a couple months back; these, well, jackbags posted a video of some kid bawwwing his eyes out because John Cena lost a really big match (I think it was at Hell in a Cell). And somewhere down the line, it was noted that if it were CM Punk or someone, grown men would have the exact same reaction. Well, I think this may have just answered our question.
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Post by FUNK_US/BRODUS on May 6, 2011 13:29:45 GMT -5
I can't wait until WWE releases pictures, I got a perfect one in mind...Orton holding the belt with Christian on his back..."PROBLEM PEEPS?" Also, I wish WWE would go into peoples homes and film reactions. It would be a goldmine of reactions looking at how everyone here has reacted to this. It would put all of the crying Cena fans to shame. Y'know, this reminds me of this thread from a couple months back; these, well, jackbags posted a video of some kid bawwwing his eyes out because John Cena lost a really big match (I think it was at Hell in a Cell). And somewhere down the line, it was noted that if it were CM Punk or someone, grown men would have the exact same reaction. Well, I think this may have just answered our question. None of us are crying because "Our guy" lost. We're pissed off because of the way it has been done. Its such an unprofessional thing to do by creative. CM Punk has lost a LOT of feud enders, and besidesa lot of eye-rolling and dismissive attitudes towards the bookers, none of us have cried our eyes out over it.
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Post by Branimal on May 6, 2011 13:30:12 GMT -5
I dont like that people are giving Orton crap for this. I agree. Orton is an employee of WWE. Your boss tells you to do something in exchange for a paycheck, you're going to do it. I'm an insurance broker. I'd be really annoyed if my clients started calling me a jerk if the company raised their insurance premiums.
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Post by The Cole Mine on May 6, 2011 13:32:22 GMT -5
Y'know, this reminds me of this thread from a couple months back; these, well, jackbags posted a video of some kid bawwwing his eyes out because John Cena lost a really big match (I think it was at Hell in a Cell). And somewhere down the line, it was noted that if it were CM Punk or someone, grown men would have the exact same reaction. Well, I think this may have just answered our question. None of us are crying because "Our guy" lost. We're pissed off because of the way it has been done. Its such an unprofessional thing to do by creative. People are still angry and upset, threatening to quit watching, over the result of a scripted match. Which is a far gone overreaction to something relatively small. So the point still stands.
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Post by Sektor on May 6, 2011 13:32:43 GMT -5
I dont like that people are giving Orton crap for this. I agree. Orton is an employee of WWE. Your boss tells you to do something in exchange for a paycheck, you're going to do it. I'm an insurance broker. I'd be really annoyed if my clients started calling me a jerk if the company raised their insurance premiums. But there's two things that make this a little different. 1. With how over Orton is and how long he's been there, I think it'd be foolish to think he doesn't have any pull backstage. 2. He's thrown enough temper tantrums in character to show me that he isn't the most professional person there, whether hes matured or not.
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Post by The Cole Mine on May 6, 2011 13:36:58 GMT -5
I agree. Orton is an employee of WWE. Your boss tells you to do something in exchange for a paycheck, you're going to do it. I'm an insurance broker. I'd be really annoyed if my clients started calling me a jerk if the company raised their insurance premiums. But there's two things that make this a little different. 1. With how over Orton is and how long he's been there, I think it'd be foolish to think he doesn't have any pull backstage. 2. He's thrown enough temper tantrums in character to show me that he isn't the most professional person there, whether hes matured or not. So you expect Orton to be all "golly gee Vince, I don't want the title. Keep it on Christian!"? Hell no. You take it and be happy they entrust you with the World Title.
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Post by EzioAuditoreDaFirenze on May 6, 2011 13:38:17 GMT -5
None of us are crying because "Our guy" lost. We're pissed off because of the way it has been done. Its such an unprofessional thing to do by creative. People are still angry and upset, threatening to quit watching, over the result of a scripted match. Which is a far gone overreaction to something relatively small. So the point still stands. Not really. People are threatning to quit because a lot o them know even if this leads to a bigger storyline, chances are WWE will f*** it up and drop the ball like they always do and there tired of seeing that. Again, if Christian lost it at Over the Limit to Orton people would be pissed but nowhere near how pissed we are now and rightfully so.
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Post by CJ on May 6, 2011 13:39:52 GMT -5
Christian looked so great with that belt on...
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Post by Cronant on May 6, 2011 13:40:06 GMT -5
Y'know, this reminds me of this thread from a couple months back; these, well, jackbags posted a video of some kid bawwwing his eyes out because John Cena lost a really big match (I think it was at Hell in a Cell). And somewhere down the line, it was noted that if it were CM Punk or someone, grown men would have the exact same reaction. Well, I think this may have just answered our question. None of us are crying because "Our guy" lost. We're pissed off because of the way it has been done. Its such an unprofessional thing to do by creative. Its because of the result of a match, a match that either way, its predetermined. In fact, I'd say its even WORSE because this is all without actually seeing the match.
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Post by Wolf Hurricane on May 6, 2011 13:42:38 GMT -5
None of us are crying because "Our guy" lost. We're pissed off because of the way it has been done. Its such an unprofessional thing to do by creative. People are still angry and upset, threatening to quit watching, over the result of a scripted match. Which is a far gone overreaction to something relatively small. So the point still stands. 1. Exactly how many people do you expect to actually quit watching? 2. The problem isn't the fact that he lost the title, but how unceremoniously he lost it, two days after winning the damn thing. 3. The fact that he lost the title seems to continue with the underlying problem, one us, the wee smarks, nor some of the boys backstage can fix: they just don't have faith in Christian, and the odds of him ever being in the main event, despite all his potential and all he's given them, is slim. So, the point doesn't stand. Getting upset over a political move =/= bawwing over your guy losing.
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Post by Wolf Hurricane on May 6, 2011 13:48:23 GMT -5
But there's two things that make this a little different. 1. With how over Orton is and how long he's been there, I think it'd be foolish to think he doesn't have any pull backstage. 2. He's thrown enough temper tantrums in character to show me that he isn't the most professional person there, whether hes matured or not. So you expect Orton to be all "golly gee Vince, I don't want the title. Keep it on Christian!"? Hell no. You take it and be happy they entrust you with the World Title. You do realize that Dreamer said, if you will "golly gee Heyman, I don't want the title," don't you? He's not the only one; you can refuse the heavyweight championship 'cause, you know, it's not like they can't find someone else to put it on, if they can't, for some reason, keep it on the guy it's on. That's not to say (as I've said before) that he didn't say that and they didn't put the title on him anyways. Gotta be honest, I think you're a troll. And not just cause of this post, but I've read some of your others, and they reek of troll.
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Post by Bub (BLM) on May 6, 2011 13:50:08 GMT -5
Y'know, this reminds me of this thread from a couple months back; these, well, jackbags posted a video of some kid bawwwing his eyes out because John Cena lost a really big match (I think it was at Hell in a Cell). And somewhere down the line, it was noted that if it were CM Punk or someone, grown men would have the exact same reaction. Well, I think this may have just answered our question. None of us are crying because "Our guy" lost. We're pissed off because of the way it has been done. Its such an unprofessional thing to do by creative. CM Punk has lost a LOT of feud enders, and besidesa lot of eye-rolling and dismissive attitudes towards the bookers, none of us have cried our eyes out over it. Exactly. People are pissed because they clearly refused to give Christian a goddamn chance to run with the ball. It's like they don't even give a crap that he has potential. No one is mad because he lost a pre-determined match. People need to look beyond the whole "wrestling is fake, don't be angry" mentality. Bottom line here is that they showed a complete lack of faith in one of their top performers.
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