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Post by The Tank on Jul 15, 2011 23:37:14 GMT -5
Now, I'm not so familliar with comics, but Bane is Hispanic, right? He is, yes. Wouldn't be the first time a character got whitewashed, though. |
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Post by Johnny B. Decent on Jul 16, 2011 0:06:00 GMT -5
Just making sure, as I think he was also white in Batman and Robin.
Still, this guy looks big enough.
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Post by riseofsetian1981 on Jul 16, 2011 0:23:05 GMT -5
I think the last part of the teaser is taken directly from the comics. {Spoiler}It has to be when they're fighting in the cave at Wayne Manor and the person behind Bruce is Alfred. He has to watch as Bruce is literally destroyed before his eyes. |
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Post by Bub (BLM) on Jul 16, 2011 0:39:50 GMT -5
Any theories on the chanting at the end of the trailer? I've read that theories that it could be escaped Arkham inmates. I've read that too, although with them chanting in something a foreign language, I'd put my money on the chanting coming from the League of Shadows. |
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Post by riseofsetian1981 on Jul 16, 2011 1:08:15 GMT -5
If this film manages to surpass The Dark Knight in terms of quality then it's possible this could break the records of Titanic and Avatar. This and The Avengers will the biggest films of next year.
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Post by Bub (BLM) on Jul 16, 2011 1:28:46 GMT -5
If this film manages to surpass The Dark Knight in terms of quality then it's possible this could break the records of Titanic and Avatar. This and The Avengers will the biggest films of next year. I'm not trying to start something here, but I honestly don't think it will do better than The Dark Knight regardless of quality. The Dark Knight had a ton of buzz from the get-go, but the death of Heath Ledger, who was a breakout star of the 90's, added a ton of interest. |
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Post by kdawg on Jul 16, 2011 2:20:10 GMT -5
If this film manages to surpass The Dark Knight in terms of quality then it's possible this could break the records of Titanic and Avatar. This and The Avengers will the biggest films of next year. The Hobbit (Dec. 2012) disagrees with your assessment. DKR will be awesome and one on the biggest grosses of the year (and will rank very highly all-time), however, The Hobbit will be 2012's biggest movie/money maker/one of biggest all-time grossers. #1 Hobbit, #2 DKR, #3 Avengers. Bank on it. |
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Post by Rican on Jul 16, 2011 21:48:38 GMT -5
If this film manages to surpass The Dark Knight in terms of quality then it's possible this could break the records of Titanic and Avatar. This and The Avengers will the biggest films of next year. I'm not trying to start something here, but I honestly don't think it will do better than The Dark Knight regardless of quality. The Dark Knight had a ton of buzz from the get-go, but the death of Heath Ledger, who was a breakout star of the 90's, added a ton of interest. I agree, The Dark Knight was the perfect storm of hype. The RAVE reviews and the intrigue surrounding Ledger's performance made it huge. The Dark Knight Rises will undoubtedly be an enormous success, but it would be hard to match up to the acclaim and success of its predecessor. |
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Post by therealsks on Jul 16, 2011 22:27:59 GMT -5
I'm just going by the comics here, I'll put it in spoiler if no one wants to know. {Spoiler}I don't think they are going to have Bane break Batman's back due to the fact they really haven't mentioned his predecessor. Plus, the trilogy has been pretty damn realistic so I don't think they're going to have him miraculously heal up. My prediction is that the film won't really have a winner/loser. The Dark Knight didn't really have a winner to be honest, Joker wasn't killed and Batman was on the run. Basically the city of Gotham based their reactions off of lies. I can see something similar happen here, and maybe Batman will actually die. I doubt it though, because WB would surely want to make another installment years later. I do trust Nolan that he will show Bane as an intelligent freak of nature, and not some dumb muscle head. What I really want to see is Bane completely beat the shit out of Batman (which I'm predicting will happen) and break his spirit, which is possibly why Gordon is having the talk with him. |
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Post by Rhody Codes on Jul 16, 2011 22:31:00 GMT -5
I'm just going by the comics here, I'll put it in spoiler if no one wants to know. {Spoiler}I don't think they are going to have Bane break Batman's back due to the fact they really haven't mentioned his predecessor. Plus, the trilogy has been pretty damn realistic so I don't think they're going to have him miraculously heal up. My prediction is that the film won't really have a winner/loser. The Dark Knight didn't really have a winner to be honest, Joker wasn't killed and Batman was on the run. Basically the city of Gotham based their reactions off of lies. I can see something similar happen here, and maybe Batman will actually die. I doubt it though, because WB would surely want to make another installment years later. I do trust Nolan that he will show Bane as an intelligent freak of nature, and not some dumb muscle head. What I really want to see is Bane completely beat the s*** out of Batman (which I'm predicting will happen) and break his spirit, which is possibly why Gordon is having the talk with him. {Spoiler}If anything, they'll have Bane come real damn close to breaking the Bat, only to fail inexplicably somehow. But one thing's for certain, it's possibly gonna be a damn brutal fight. |
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Post by therealsks on Jul 16, 2011 22:53:06 GMT -5
I agree.
I do hope they show Osito, Bane's only friend. Just the thought of seeing a jacked up Tom Hardy hugging a teddy bear makes me want to laugh on the outside, but cry on the inside.
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Post by riseofsetian1981 on Jul 17, 2011 1:46:05 GMT -5
If this film manages to surpass The Dark Knight in terms of quality then it's possible this could break the records of Titanic and Avatar. This and The Avengers will the biggest films of next year. The Hobbit (Dec. 2012) disagrees with your assessment. DKR will be awesome and one on the biggest grosses of the year (and will rank very highly all-time), however, The Hobbit will be 2012's biggest movie/money maker/one of biggest all-time grossers. #1 Hobbit, #2 DKR, #3 Avengers. Bank on it. Definitely forgot about The Hobbit. You're most likely right too given the circumstances. |
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Post by riseofsetian1981 on Jul 17, 2011 1:47:47 GMT -5
I'm just going by the comics here, I'll put it in spoiler if no one wants to know. {Spoiler}I don't think they are going to have Bane break Batman's back due to the fact they really haven't mentioned his predecessor. Plus, the trilogy has been pretty damn realistic so I don't think they're going to have him miraculously heal up. My prediction is that the film won't really have a winner/loser. The Dark Knight didn't really have a winner to be honest, Joker wasn't killed and Batman was on the run. Basically the city of Gotham based their reactions off of lies. I can see something similar happen here, and maybe Batman will actually die. I doubt it though, because WB would surely want to make another installment years later. I do trust Nolan that he will show Bane as an intelligent freak of nature, and not some dumb muscle head. What I really want to see is Bane completely beat the s*** out of Batman (which I'm predicting will happen) and break his spirit, which is possibly why Gordon is having the talk with him. I really want them to go the route of Knightfall and have Bane break Batman's back. It is such an iconic scene in the comics and to bring it to life I feel would shock those not familiar with it. |
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Post by Bub (BLM) on Jul 17, 2011 1:55:36 GMT -5
I'm just going by the comics here, I'll put it in spoiler if no one wants to know. {Spoiler}I don't think they are going to have Bane break Batman's back due to the fact they really haven't mentioned his predecessor. Plus, the trilogy has been pretty damn realistic so I don't think they're going to have him miraculously heal up. My prediction is that the film won't really have a winner/loser. The Dark Knight didn't really have a winner to be honest, Joker wasn't killed and Batman was on the run. Basically the city of Gotham based their reactions off of lies. I can see something similar happen here, and maybe Batman will actually die. I doubt it though, because WB would surely want to make another installment years later. I do trust Nolan that he will show Bane as an intelligent freak of nature, and not some dumb muscle head. What I really want to see is Bane completely beat the s*** out of Batman (which I'm predicting will happen) and break his spirit, which is possibly why Gordon is having the talk with him. I really want them to go the route of Knightfall and have Bane break Batman's back. It is such an iconic scene in the comics and to bring it to life I feel would shock those not familiar with it. I agree. Batman Begins jumped forward seven years, so I don't see any reason why Bruce rehabilitating his body can't be handled in the same fashion. Imagine how awesome the scene would be when Batman came back to confront Bane and save the city after being gone for a year. It would be glorious. |
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Post by fbrosnan on Jul 17, 2011 3:23:18 GMT -5
The Dark Knight didn't really have a winner to be honest, Joker wasn't killed and Batman was on the run. Sure, he wasn't killed, but he was successfully captured. Harvey, sadly, was killed, but before he did anything too heinous (killing crooked cops doesn't count, who could blame him?) and his reputation was preserved. Batman's on-the-run status was his own decision. Gordon, Bats, and to a lesser extant, Harvey are the clear winners. They can have their cake and eat it too. You can kill Batman in the Nolan series and still revive the franchise down the road. Presumably future Bat-films won't be connected to the current series the same way that Nolan disconnected himself from the Burton / Schumacher era. |
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Post by riseofsetian1981 on Jul 17, 2011 12:00:15 GMT -5
I really want them to go the route of Knightfall and have Bane break Batman's back. It is such an iconic scene in the comics and to bring it to life I feel would shock those not familiar with it. I agree. Batman Begins jumped forward seven years, so I don't see any reason why Bruce rehabilitating his body can't be handled in the same fashion. Imagine how awesome the scene would be when Batman came back to confront Bane and save the city after being gone for a year. It would be glorious. Exactly. Bane brutally beating Batman down wouldn't accomplish anything, simply because everyone knows Batman can comeback from a thrashing. If they played their cards right, write the dialogue correctly, and film it in a fashion where the audience truly believes Batman is done then when he "rises" it'll surprise the audience. Hence why I sincerely and truly hope they have Bane break his back. It needs to happen and it will probably be one of the most iconic scenes in cinematic history. |
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Post by Rican on Jul 17, 2011 14:50:36 GMT -5
I really wouldn't be surprised if Nolan killed off the Batman.
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Post by Yami Daimao on Jul 17, 2011 14:53:27 GMT -5
Any theories on the chanting at the end of the trailer? I've read that theories that it could be escaped Arkham inmates. Could be. That could also explain the last shot of Batman being surrounded by the inmates. They tire him out, Bane comes in and breaks his back. While Batman is recovering, Gotham is being turned to shit by Bane, thugs, and possibly even Ra's. Selina tries to fill in for Batman as Catwoman, but to no success. Even Gordon tries to get his hands dirty, but he gets his ass kicked (which explains why he's lying on the hospital bed). Once Bruce finally recovers and sees what Gotham has turned into, he questions whether he could continue as Batman. He visits Gordon at the hospital, Gordon gives him a pep talk, Bruce is convinced and "rises" as Batman once again to take down Bane and co. How the movie ends, I don't know, but that's how I see the majority of the movie going down. |
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Post by riseofsetian1981 on Jul 17, 2011 15:20:03 GMT -5
I really wouldn't be surprised if Nolan killed off the Batman. Neither would I, but I really don't see it happening. |
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Post by Bub (BLM) on Jul 17, 2011 15:45:26 GMT -5
I really wouldn't be surprised if Nolan killed off the Batman. Neither would I, but I really don't see it happening. I was worried about it as well, as I stated in the thread before, but not any longer. The more I think about it, the more sense it makes that this film will serve more as the end of Batman's early days, and cement his status. On top of that, The Dark Knight was a really somber movie, the "Empire Strikes Back" of the Batman franchise. Hopefully the final film is more uplifting. |
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