mrjl
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Post by mrjl on Mar 6, 2012 18:29:10 GMT -5
Exactly. I think there are times someone can and should get under Cena's skin, like Punk did, like Jericho has, and at some point between now and Wrestlemania there should be a promo where Rock does the same, but for the most part I don't have an issue with Cena shrugging off most of the insults and criticisms levelled at him. except Cena has never been shown to be afraid, and last summer he offered to throw it all away, just so the guy he was supposed to defend his title against actually got his shot. Why would he be afraid Rock could take it away?
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Post by Wolf Hurricane on Mar 6, 2012 18:30:08 GMT -5
Let's not pretend he never gets serious. Edge kicks his father in the head and takes his world title: Cena didn't take him lightly. Wade Barrett and the Nexus take over: Cena didn't take them lightly.
The Rock's compared him to breakfast cereal and Wonder Woman and threatened him with Chinese food. Which one of these "insults" are worth Cena getting all LOLRAEGD over? Matter of fact, isn't that exactly what got so many people's drawers in a bunch before; how he blew up and got all SRS because of something insignificant (i.e. Del Rio)? Come on, bro.
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Post by Perpetual Nirvana on Mar 6, 2012 18:37:10 GMT -5
Such a crime to some people? To me, it's actually pretty realistic. Show two people (ESPECIALLY fighters) get into a verbal argument, you'll often see the guy getting insults thrown at him smile it off, whether it's getting to him/her or not. This is a common human trait. It does not mean that Cena is no-selling anything. it feels like to me some people just take wrestling to seriously. It should be a display of pure constant agression. The only emotions felt, hate, anger and pleasure in others suffering Except Cena does both in the same feud, often at the same time. Oh and why is it only those who are critical who take things too seriously?
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Post by MrBRulzOK on Mar 6, 2012 18:37:51 GMT -5
Just because something happens in real life doesn't mean that you should have people do it on a scripted television show. People talk over each other all the time too when arguing, but if you ask me I'd rather be able to understand what everyone is saying rather than for it to be realistic and having people constantly shouting over each other.
Remember when Miz, Morrison, and two other guys spent an entire match yelling over each other during commentary? Or when Cole and Booker T do it? Or those TNA Knockout segments where everyone is just screaming at each other? I don't recall people enjoying those too much. I certainly didn't.
Just like that I think by having Cena constantly smiling and laughing it makes him come off as more like a heel or at the very least a bratty child who can't take anything seriously. Rather than make me think that he's getting to the Rock it instead makes me want to reach out and smack him upside the head. I just can't get behind someone like that.
Yeah, Rock has a tendency to pull out some goofy stuff too, but in the end the man knows when it's time to be serious.
Yes, it happens in real life, but when it's something that takes away from segments than I'm perfectly fine with not happening exactly as it would in reality.
Maybe it's just me.
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Post by Banjo Is Broken on Mar 6, 2012 18:39:25 GMT -5
I think the moment that Cena brought up the Tooth Fairy, Rock should have said something like, "Just for the record, the Tooth Fairy could kick the Marine's ass any day of the week." But I guess he was trying the whole serious thing or something.
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Post by Perpetual Nirvana on Mar 6, 2012 18:39:51 GMT -5
Honestly, this thread seems like a trap. "Why does it bother you? Tell us so others can belittle you opinion."
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Post by Error on Mar 6, 2012 18:43:36 GMT -5
Honestly, this thread seems like a trap. "Why does it bother you? Tell us so others can belittle you opinion." Let me just say it has more than gone both ways.
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Post by rapidfire187 on Mar 6, 2012 18:43:58 GMT -5
Such a crime to some people? To me, it's actually pretty realistic. Show two people (ESPECIALLY fighters) get into a verbal argument, you'll often see the guy getting insults thrown at him smile it off, whether it's getting to him/her or not. This is a common human trait. It does not mean that Cena is no-selling anything. it feels like to me some people just take wrestling to seriously. It should be a display of pure constant agression. The only emotions felt, hate, anger and pleasure in others suffering To me, wrestling = serious business. I take the shit way too seriously. John Cena smiling during those promos doesn't bother me. But you can't say that it's not odd or unusual, and the people that are bugged by it do have a legitimate gripe.
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Post by Perpetual Nirvana on Mar 6, 2012 18:47:03 GMT -5
Honestly, this thread seems like a trap. "Why does it bother you? Tell us so others can belittle you opinion." Let me just say it has more than gone both ways. You're gonna have to point me toward the posts that say "Oh you're just looking for something to praise John Cena over, you don't take things seriously enough." You're okay with it? Fair enough. But don't you (not you specifically) make out that I'm in the wrong because it slightly irritates me.
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Post by hossfan on Mar 6, 2012 18:48:05 GMT -5
Exactly. I think there are times someone can and should get under Cena's skin, like Punk did, like Jericho has, and at some point between now and Wrestlemania there should be a promo where Rock does the same, but for the most part I don't have an issue with Cena shrugging off most of the insults and criticisms levelled at him. except Cena has never been shown to be afraid, and last summer he offered to throw it all away, just so the guy he was supposed to defend his title against actually got his shot. Why would he be afraid Rock could take it away? Cena said in the empty arena promo that he needs to beat the Rock, that nobody remembers who comes in second. He's placing a huge amount of importance on who wins the match. I think Rock could rattle him by pointing out that the Rock has beaten legends at Wrestlemania in Hulk Hogan and Steve Austin, guys whose resumes far outweigh Cena's. In other words, make it about wrestling, and not who's better on the mic or who is less of a pandering phoney.
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Post by Error on Mar 6, 2012 18:51:35 GMT -5
Let me just say it has more than gone both ways. You're gonna have to point me toward the posts that say "Oh you're just looking for something to praise John Cena over, you don't thke things seriously enough." Really? People aren't belittling others for liking Cena in this? For finding Rock's act stale and wanting him to do something other than "kung pow trending now" bullshit? Let me give ya a little help, look up any Cena/Rock related thread from the last three weeks. Hell, there is a nice 15 page one on page 1 where fans from both sides are belittling the other for their fandom.
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Post by Djm Doesn't Find You Funny on Mar 6, 2012 18:53:26 GMT -5
Cena's been smiling and smirking at the haters all this time, and now it bothers people.
I don't get it. Wrestling is serious business, but at this point, Cena is teflon. Why should Dwayne phase him? He's had the upper hand in the promos so far.
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Post by Perpetual Nirvana on Mar 6, 2012 18:53:48 GMT -5
You're gonna have to point me toward the posts that say "Oh you're just looking for something to praise John Cena over, you don't thke things seriously enough." Really? People aren't belittling others for liking Cena in this? For finding Rock's act stale and wanting him to do something other than "kung pow trending now" bulls***? Let me give ya a little help, look up any Cena/Rock related thread from the last three weeks. Hell, there is a nice 15 page one on page 1 where fans from both sides are belittling the other for their fandom. What the hell? I was talking about this thread, about those who have a problem with Cena grinning his way through The Rock's insults. What does that have to do with this?
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Post by klapaucius on Mar 6, 2012 19:03:59 GMT -5
serious bizznes
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Post by Slingshot Suplay on Mar 6, 2012 19:17:41 GMT -5
The thing I didn't like about it is that the Rock is still in tremendous shape, has shown he can still go, and is his opponent at WM in less than a month and yet Cena's smiling. It's not like he was confronted by a 50-something retired Bruno Sammartino threatening to kick his butt, it was a guy who has shown that he can do it. PPV's a month away, you might want to get a little bit serious when you have a future HOF & world champion in your face.
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Post by mrjl on Mar 6, 2012 19:23:55 GMT -5
it feels like to me some people just take wrestling to seriously. It should be a display of pure constant agression. The only emotions felt, hate, anger and pleasure in others suffering Except Cena does both in the same feud, often at the same time. Oh and why is it only those who are critical who take things too seriously? basically I mean they take it to serious because they wqant it to serious. And it is possible to feel multiple emotions at the same time. Yes, Cena feels this match is the most important of his career. But just because he has to worry about the Rock's skills doesn't mean he has to worry about the Rock's words. If Rock has said I'm going to rip your throat out the first thing then maybe Cena should have been more serious. Instead he opened with that he saw fear and built from there. Rock's blown it there if Cena isn't actually scared. Everything from there is him just talking out his ass. Plus they were nose to nose. Where wiseasses like to say they're so close it looks like they're about to kiss. so it's funny look
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Post by Loser troll. Please ban me on Mar 6, 2012 19:25:06 GMT -5
At no other time can I remember a top babyface engauged in a face to face with their opponent leading up to a ppv let alone WM start smiling,smirking,and corpsing.
[kayfabe] The Rock has his silly segments but in the ring has twice confronted cena as a man and gotten a chilidish response.[/kayfabe]
Cenas character is the most unlikable prick in the WWE currently.
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Post by Loser troll. Please ban me on Mar 6, 2012 19:28:33 GMT -5
Cena's been smiling and smirking at the haters all this time, and now it bothers people. I don't get it. Wrestling is serious business, but at this point, Cena is teflon. Why should Dwayne phase him? He's had the upper hand in the promos so far. You don't get cena doing a decent serious promo leading people to think that he's done with the games nd now it's time to put up or shut up, Then going out and out cheese the rock and acting like a kid? Seems fairly straight foward.
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Post by mrjl on Mar 6, 2012 19:31:06 GMT -5
it feels like to me some people just take wrestling to seriously. It should be a display of pure constant agression. The only emotions felt, hate, anger and pleasure in others suffering To me, wrestling = serious business. I take the s*** way too seriously. John Cena smiling during those promos doesn't bother me. But you can't say that it's not odd or unusual, and the people that are bugged by it do have a legitimate gripe. I don't know. I know when people invade my personal space I sometimes find myself laughing.
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Post by wrestling4ever on Mar 6, 2012 19:31:25 GMT -5
Also, I know Cena is a big Rock fan and all but I have to admit I found it funny that after all the intensity he had shown , he was jumping up and down and pretty much marking out when Rock said his "Finally" catchphrase.
Guess that explains why he smiles so much and salivated at the mouth back in October just by saying Rock's name.
Must have a hard time keeping his fan boy in check lol.
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