mrjl
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Post by mrjl on Mar 6, 2012 19:37:16 GMT -5
At no other time can I remember a top babyface engauged in a face to face with their opponent leading up to a ppv let alone WM start smiling,smirking,and corpsing. [kayfabe] The Rock has his silly segments but in the ring has twice confronted cena as a man and gotten a chilidish response.[/kayfabe] Cenas character is the most unlikable prick in the WWE currently. So it's the Rock that gets to decide "Okay Cena, today we're not doing jokes, it's all serious." or "Okay, Cena today we're going to steal each others catchphrases and sing a duet" No, if Rock can decide at any time not to take things seriously, Cena can do the same
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BigWill
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Post by BigWill on Mar 6, 2012 19:38:11 GMT -5
I know why Cena's smiling. It isn't because he's taking The Rock lightly. It isn't because he's amused by Rock's corny insults. It's not even because this is some interesting character quirk. It can all be explained with 3 simple words...
Cena Can't Act.
Now someone send for the man.
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Post by Magnum Opus on Mar 6, 2012 19:41:35 GMT -5
I think it's working for this feud. It's not like Cena needs to sell The Rock to us.
It's definitely contradicted WWE's attempts at selling Cena as the underdog in the past though.
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Post by Perpetual Nirvana on Mar 6, 2012 20:00:02 GMT -5
Except Cena does both in the same feud, often at the same time. Oh and why is it only those who are critical who take things too seriously? basically I mean they take it to serious because they wqant it to serious. And that's only a bad thing because you make it so. Cena started the night in an empty arena talking about how it's the end for him if the Rock wins. How is that not serious? It's not just The Rock though, he does it all the damn time. It just annoyed me. Very slightly I might add but it annoyed me none the less. Can't I think that without being argued down? What happened to agree to disagree?
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Post by rapidfire187 on Mar 6, 2012 20:21:21 GMT -5
To me, wrestling = serious business. I take the s*** way too seriously. John Cena smiling during those promos doesn't bother me. But you can't say that it's not odd or unusual, and the people that are bugged by it do have a legitimate gripe. I don't know. I know when people invade my personal space I sometimes find myself laughing. I get that, and that's why it doesn't bug me. But you're talking about real life...not prk wrestling. It bugs some people because it's not traditional wrestling logic. And I totally get that. Still, I'm enjoying the feud.
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Post by Loser troll. Please ban me on Mar 6, 2012 20:23:33 GMT -5
At no other time can I remember a top babyface engauged in a face to face with their opponent leading up to a ppv let alone WM start smiling,smirking,and corpsing. [kayfabe] The Rock has his silly segments but in the ring has twice confronted cena as a man and gotten a chilidish response.[/kayfabe] Cenas character is the most unlikable prick in the WWE currently. So it's the Rock that gets to decide "Okay Cena, today we're not doing jokes, it's all serious." or "Okay, Cena today we're going to steal each others catchphrases and sing a duet" No, if Rock can decide at any time not to take things seriously, Cena can do the same Usually "anytime" in this feud specifically has only been in pre taped segements, Face to Face the rock has presented himself as seeing through cena's BS and wanting constantly to adress him and talk to him as a man. IMO, This is how it's playing out in kayfabeto the casual fan.
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Post by Error on Mar 6, 2012 20:32:36 GMT -5
So it's the Rock that gets to decide "Okay Cena, today we're not doing jokes, it's all serious." or "Okay, Cena today we're going to steal each others catchphrases and sing a duet" No, if Rock can decide at any time not to take things seriously, Cena can do the same Usually "anytime" in this feud specifically has only been in pre taped segements, Face to Face the rock has presented himself as seeing through cena's BS and wanting constantly to adress him and talk to him as a man. IMO, This is how it's playing out in kayfabeto the casual fan. See, I think it's been the opposite when face-to-face, it's been Cena seeing through Rock's BS and trying to get Rock to take him seriously. Even with Rock getting in his face on RAW, Rock was still more talk than action. I mean Cena has said, he's focused on WrestleMania while Rock wants to just slap Cena whenever but whenever he's had the chance to do that, Rock doesn't take it. Basically, Cena is focused on Mania and winning there, while Rock wants to embarrass Cena and win the war of words. That doesn't bother Cena so he's not sweating the Rock right now.
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Post by machomuta on Mar 6, 2012 20:33:48 GMT -5
if Rock can decide at any time not to take things seriously, Cena can do the same Not according to the Cena haters. Cena has to be serious all the time. Rock is the only one who is allowed to be silly.
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Post by wrestling4ever on Mar 6, 2012 20:40:37 GMT -5
Both Cena & Rock cracked jokes and were silly all through this build up. Both of them. But when its game time to get face to face, they both need to be serious and sell the feud. Rock did that last night, Cena goofed off. It was worse because Cena had just came off a great promo selling the feud as something important but face to face against his opponent, it looked like a joke to him. The only time they have both been intense in the ring was last year on 3/28. Once Cena came out and stopped his pandering it got great and that was one hell of a moment. Thats how it should be.
Both of these guys are jokesters, they are from the same breed in that aspect. The jokes will only continue and thats fine. There is nothing wrong with that. I encourage the fun side to the feud (next week will be one of these times) but all Im saying is that when they are in each others face, both guys need to sell it properly.
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Post by Loser troll. Please ban me on Mar 6, 2012 20:40:54 GMT -5
if Rock can decide at any time not to take things seriously, Cena can do the same Not according to the Cena haters. Cena has to be serious all the time. Rock is the only one who is allowed to be silly. Conversely, Cena's supporters will tell you he is responsible for not only bringing wwe out of the dark ages but responsible for hulkamania. Hyperbole yes, This may shock you to know I both support and dissagree with cena's character on occasion, It must ruin the stereotype you've so lovingly painted.
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Post by Slingshot Suplay on Mar 6, 2012 20:43:07 GMT -5
Both Cena & Rock cracked jokes and were silly all through this build up. Both of them. But when its game time to get face to face, they both need to be serious and sell the feud. Rock did that last night, Cena goofed off. It was worse because Cena had just came off a great promo selling the feud as something important but face to face against his opponent, it looked like a joke to him. The only time they have both been intense in the ring was last year on 3/28. Once Cena came out and stopped his pandering it got great and that was one hell of a moment. Thats how it should be. This.
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Post by Loser troll. Please ban me on Mar 6, 2012 20:47:02 GMT -5
Both Cena & Rock cracked jokes and were silly all through this build up. Both of them. But when its game time to get face to face, they both need to be serious and sell the feud. Rock did that last night, Cena goofed off. It was worse because Cena had just came off a great promo selling the feud as something important but face to face against his opponent, it looked like a joke to him. The only time they have both been intense in the ring was last year on 3/28. Once Cena came out and stopped his pandering it got great and that was one hell of a moment. Thats how it should be. This. Cosigned x100
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Post by Perpetual Nirvana on Mar 6, 2012 20:47:56 GMT -5
Can't people just dislike it without having some bullshit reason attributed to them? Seriously?
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mrjl
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Post by mrjl on Mar 6, 2012 20:48:59 GMT -5
basically I mean they take it to serious because they wqant it to serious. And that's only a bad thing because you make it so. Cena started the night in an empty arena talking about how it's the end for him if the Rock wins. How is that not serious? It's not just The Rock though, he does it all the damn time. It just annoyed me. Very slightly I might add but it annoyed me none the less. Can't I think that without being argued down? What happened to agree to disagree? someone who says "agree to disagree" is just trying to dismiss you. I don't think people here are trying to be argue you down, they're trying to convince you.
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Post by mrjl on Mar 6, 2012 20:50:51 GMT -5
So it's the Rock that gets to decide "Okay Cena, today we're not doing jokes, it's all serious." or "Okay, Cena today we're going to steal each others catchphrases and sing a duet" No, if Rock can decide at any time not to take things seriously, Cena can do the same Usually "anytime" in this feud specifically has only been in pre taped segements, Face to Face the rock has presented himself as seeing through cena's BS and wanting constantly to adress him and talk to him as a man. IMO, This is how it's playing out in kayfabeto the casual fan. anytime in this feud may be pre-taped, but Cena can also look at Rock's history. The bit I referenced, from a Stone Cold confrontation was a live episode in the middle of the ring. Both Cena & Rock cracked jokes and were silly all through this build up. Both of them. But when its game time to get face to face, they both need to be serious and sell the feud. Rock did that last night, Cena goofed off. It was worse because Cena had just came off a great promo selling the feud as something important but face to face against his opponent, it looked like a joke to him. The only time they have both been intense in the ring was last year on 3/28. Once Cena came out and stopped his pandering it got great and that was one hell of a moment. Thats how it should be. Both of these guys are jokesters, they are from the same breed in that aspect. The jokes will only continue and thats fine. There is nothing wrong with that. I encourage the fun side to the feud (next week will be one of these times) but all Im saying is that when they are in each others face, both guys need to sell it properly. honestly I think face to face is actually the better time to be silly. pre-taped, you can think about things and find the words to clearly make your point. face to face, you're in a situation that doesn't really happen that often, is kind of akward, I think it actually looks better when there's an announcer in between two people swinging the mike back and forth to whoever's talking, and you're reacting on the fly. You have to improvise, and improviation can be silly.
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Post by Perpetual Nirvana on Mar 6, 2012 20:51:20 GMT -5
And that's only a bad thing because you make it so. Cena started the night in an empty arena talking about how it's the end for him if the Rock wins. How is that not serious? It's not just The Rock though, he does it all the damn time. It just annoyed me. Very slightly I might add but it annoyed me none the less. Can't I think that without being argued down? What happened to agree to disagree? someone who says "agree to disagree" is just trying to dismiss you. I don't think people here are trying to be argue you down, they're trying to convince you. It's the same thing. I not trying to convince anyone that they are wrong for not having a problem with it. Why are you doing so to me?
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Post by Error on Mar 6, 2012 21:01:09 GMT -5
Both Cena & Rock cracked jokes and were silly all through this build up. Both of them. But when its game time to get face to face, they both need to be serious and sell the feud. Rock did that last night, Cena goofed off. It was worse because Cena had just came off a great promo selling the feud as something important but face to face against his opponent, it looked like a joke to him. The only time they have both been intense in the ring was last year on 3/28. Once Cena came out and stopped his pandering it got great and that was one hell of a moment. Thats how it should be. Both of these guys are jokesters, they are from the same breed in that aspect. The jokes will only continue and thats fine. There is nothing wrong with that. I encourage the fun side to the feud (next week will be one of these times) but all Im saying is that when they are in each others face, both guys need to sell it properly. But wasn't it the opposite last week? When they went face to face Cena was the serious one while Rock was the jokester?
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Post by machomuta on Mar 6, 2012 21:14:12 GMT -5
Not according to the Cena haters. Cena has to be serious all the time. Rock is the only one who is allowed to be silly. This may shock you to know I both support and dissagree with cena's character on occasion, It must ruin the stereotype you've so lovingly painted. Not really. I was talking about the people who bash him all the time.
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Post by johnnybaseball, Mantaur Fan on Mar 6, 2012 21:37:30 GMT -5
And that's only a bad thing because you make it so. Cena started the night in an empty arena talking about how it's the end for him if the Rock wins. How is that not serious? It's not just The Rock though, he does it all the damn time. It just annoyed me. Very slightly I might add but it annoyed me none the less. Can't I think that without being argued down? What happened to agree to disagree? someone who says "agree to disagree" is just trying to dismiss you. I don't think people here are trying to be argue you down, they're trying to convince you. But sometimes, it's what you have to do. Sometimes, you've said everything you have to say, and so has your debate partner, and you aren't going to convince one another. It's the only way to move on, because in the end, there are no right answers here. This board has been hard to read lately. Everyone has been so angry at one another it seems!
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Post by wrestling4ever on Mar 6, 2012 21:38:18 GMT -5
honestly I think face to face is actually the better time to be silly. pre-taped, you can think about things and find the words to clearly make your point. face to face, you're in a situation that doesn't really happen that often, is kind of akward, I think it actually looks better when there's an announcer in between two people swinging the mike back and forth to whoever's talking, and you're reacting on the fly. You have to improvise, and improviation can be silly. See to me, when you are face to face in a situation like last night, I dont see why there is a time to be silly. There really isnt. But wasn't it the opposite last week? When they went face to face Cena was the serious one while Rock was the jokester? I think you missed what I meant here. There is nothing wrong with being a jokester in the feud, they both do it. Both guys crack jokes at each other Hell, both did it this week. Its the actual face to face encounter Im talking about. From my memory, Rock last week didn't pull what Cena pulled last night in a face to face confrontation. He sold the mess out of Cena's shot. Raw emotion. That on top of Cena's words, really drove that segment home. Wasnt smiling and all that. For Cena to go from a kick ass RAW promo to what he did in Rock's face made it seem silly.
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