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Post by Cronant on Mar 6, 2012 20:04:36 GMT -5
Eve, for starters. Nattie, whenever they're done with the fart thing, or at least toning it down. And if they ever bother to let a few of the newer divas do something on the main shows, that'll be cool too. Eve who only started showing personality in the last few weeks? Really? Absolutely. I fail to see how it could possibly be worse than the current situation.
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Post by Perpetual Nirvana on Mar 6, 2012 20:08:15 GMT -5
Eve who only started showing personality in the last few weeks? Really? Absolutely. I fail to see how it could possibly be worse than the current situation. Well her previous two title reigns totally bombed so I don't see how it would be any better either.
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Post by CH Punk on Mar 6, 2012 20:09:39 GMT -5
Eve, for starters. Nattie, whenever they're done with the fart thing, or at least toning it down. And if they ever bother to let a few of the newer divas do something on the main shows, that'll be cool too. Eve who only started showing personality in the last few weeks? Really? The crowd reacts a lot to her now that she's a heel but it would be weird to have her take the title from another heel. Although, at this point, Beth is champion only to keep it warm for Kharma and to have some good to great matches with her.
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Post by Cronant on Mar 6, 2012 20:10:00 GMT -5
Absolutely. I fail to see how it could possibly be worse than the current situation. Well her previous two title reigns totally bombed so I don't see how it would be any better either. She's a boring face, obviously. Currently though, I see no reason why it wouldn't at least be a hell of a lot more interesting. There is absolutely nothing interesting about Beth at this point in time, even before she got the title.
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Post by Perpetual Nirvana on Mar 6, 2012 20:12:42 GMT -5
Well her previous two title reigns totally bombed so I don't see how it would be any better either. She's a boring face, obviously. Currently though, I see no reason why it wouldn't at least be a hell of a lot more interesting. There is absolutely nothing interesting about Beth at this point in time, even before she got the title. DoD started off pretty well but then they screwed that up. Of course there's always the option to actually book Beth to be interesting again. They could give that a shot.
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Post by Cronant on Mar 6, 2012 20:15:03 GMT -5
She's a boring face, obviously. Currently though, I see no reason why it wouldn't at least be a hell of a lot more interesting. There is absolutely nothing interesting about Beth at this point in time, even before she got the title. Of course there's always the option to actually book Beth to be more interesting. They could give that a shot. Which brings me to my original agreement with Akeem that she's boring. Even when she had mic time and promos.
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Post by JTH on Mar 6, 2012 20:15:35 GMT -5
When one diva crushes the whole division, no one cares. Then when one of those divas knock her off it looks stupid as hell.
Fans say they want the real woman wrestlers, then we get 10 minutes of Tamina/Beth at EC and the crowd doesn't give a damn. There's no way to fix it, times have changed.
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Post by PKO on Mar 6, 2012 20:15:52 GMT -5
Well her previous two title reigns totally bombed so I don't see how it would be any better either. She's a boring face, obviously. Currently though, I see no reason why it wouldn't at least be a hell of a lot more interesting. There is absolutely nothing interesting about Beth at this point in time, even before she got the title. Eve is interesting now because they've given her a character, a storyline and a lot of effort put behind her. Beth gets nothing to work with character wise when she's on TV (which is once in a blue moon). Why not just put more effort into pushing the superior wrestler Beth?
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Post by BigWill on Mar 6, 2012 20:17:19 GMT -5
Well her previous two title reigns totally bombed so I don't see how it would be any better either. She's a boring face, obviously. Currently though, I see no reason why it wouldn't at least be a hell of a lot more interesting. There is absolutely nothing interesting about Beth at this point in time, even before she got the title. There's really nothing interesting about Eve right now either outside if her feud/romance with Ryder. You take that storyline away and her character basically becomes bitchy diva heel #69.
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Post by Cronant on Mar 6, 2012 20:17:45 GMT -5
She's a boring face, obviously. Currently though, I see no reason why it wouldn't at least be a hell of a lot more interesting. There is absolutely nothing interesting about Beth at this point in time, even before she got the title. Eve is interesting now because they've given her a character, a storyline and a lot of effort put behind her. Beth gets nothing to work with character wise when she's on TV (which is once in a blue moon). Why not just put more effort into pushing the superior wrestler Beth? Even when Beth did get time and mic work and character I found her boring. That was my entire point. I'm not talking about her now never being on TV, I'm talking even when she was on TV, throughout her entire WWE career up to this point.
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Post by Cronant on Mar 6, 2012 20:18:53 GMT -5
She's a boring face, obviously. Currently though, I see no reason why it wouldn't at least be a hell of a lot more interesting. There is absolutely nothing interesting about Beth at this point in time, even before she got the title. There's really nothing interesting about Eve right now either outside if her feud/romance with Ryder. You take that storyline away and her character basically becomes bitchy diva heel #69. ......and? Why would I take that storyline away?
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Post by PKO on Mar 6, 2012 20:18:58 GMT -5
Eve is interesting now because they've given her a character, a storyline and a lot of effort put behind her. Beth gets nothing to work with character wise when she's on TV (which is once in a blue moon). Why not just put more effort into pushing the superior wrestler Beth? Even when Beth did get time and mic work and character I found her boring. That was my entire point. I'm not talking about her now never being on TV, I'm talking even when she was on TV, throughout her entire WWE career up to this point. Oh, fair enough. I completely disagree though. Love Beth.
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Post by BigWill on Mar 6, 2012 20:20:32 GMT -5
There's really nothing interesting about Eve right now either outside if her feud/romance with Ryder. You take that storyline away and her character basically becomes bitchy diva heel #69. ......and? Why would I take that storyline away? Well it's got to end eventually, doesn't it?
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Post by Perpetual Nirvana on Mar 6, 2012 20:21:48 GMT -5
Even when Beth did get time and mic work and character I found her boring. That was my entire point. I'm not talking about her now never being on TV, I'm talking even when she was on TV, throughout her entire WWE career up to this point. Oh, fair enough. I completely disagree though. Love Beth. Same, I think she's fine if she has something to work with. But Cronant disagrees so I guess we'll just have to leave it as a difference of opinion.
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Post by Cronant on Mar 6, 2012 20:21:54 GMT -5
......and? Why would I take that storyline away? Well it's got to end eventually, doesn't it? Yeah, but I'm not sure how thats relevant to now. If it ends and she's got nothing left, then thats what title changes are for.
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Post by CH Punk on Mar 6, 2012 20:33:49 GMT -5
Fans say they want the real woman wrestlers, then we get 10 minutes of Tamina/Beth at EC and the crowd doesn't give a damn. There's no way to fix it, times have changed. You can apply that to anything wrestling related and, to be clear, fans on the internet who say they want women wrestler doesn't equal all fans (including casual fans who have been trained by WWE not to give a damn about women wrestling since last year (you could argue that it started before then but the 2011 Rumble was the last time they really had anything meaningful with them)). As for the match itself, IMO, they worked a style that, unless you're actively trying to care, is hard to get into.
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Post by thelonewolf527 on Mar 6, 2012 20:40:49 GMT -5
Oh, fair enough. I completely disagree though. Love Beth. Same, I think she's fine if she has something to work with. But Cronant disagrees so I guess we'll just have to leave it as a difference of opinion. I personally never really cared for Beth on the mic, but after "But Hunter...we're girls! Something could happen." I wouldn't mind never hearing her speak again.
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Post by Perpetual Nirvana on Mar 6, 2012 20:44:31 GMT -5
Same, I think she's fine if she has something to work with. But Cronant disagrees so I guess we'll just have to leave it as a difference of opinion. I personally never really cared for Beth on the mic, but after "But Hunter...we're girls! Something could happen." I wouldn't mind never hearing her speak again. She was supposed to sound grating in that promo since her point was conceited and whiny. At least I hope she was.
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Post by BigWill on Mar 6, 2012 20:47:26 GMT -5
Same, I think she's fine if she has something to work with. But Cronant disagrees so I guess we'll just have to leave it as a difference of opinion. I personally never really cared for Beth on the mic, but after "But Hunter...we're girls! Something could happen." I wouldn't mind never hearing her speak again. I think people put way too much emphasis on this line. Beth was just being a heel, trying to gain sympathy, despite not deserving any. And it was never mentioned again so it wasn't meant to really mean anything. I'm pretty sure most fans have forgotten all about it. I'm sure I would have too if I didn't see it constantly being brought up.
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Post by CH Punk on Mar 6, 2012 20:51:02 GMT -5
I personally never really cared for Beth on the mic, but after "But Hunter...we're girls! Something could happen." I wouldn't mind never hearing her speak again. I think people put way too much emphasis on this line. Beth was just being a heel, trying to gain sympathy, despite not deserving any. And it was never mentioned again so it wasn't meant to really mean anything. I'm pretty sure most fans have forgotten all about it. I'm sure I would have too if I didn't see it constantly being brought up. I believe the point they were trying to make was that she was a hypocrite trying to get the face GM out for the heel one because she had been bullying the Divas locker room for the last couple of months.
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