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Post by zing on Apr 4, 2012 13:16:11 GMT -5
Ladies and gentlemen, this is why we should get excited over Damien Sandow: youtu.be/eCOIdVwwbyYI really hope his gimmick stays the same. Spotlights, poetry, pink trunks and all! Edit: Ack, can't get it to embed. Apologies! 'The Genius' Lanny Poffo the world's smartest man gimmick? I do like that he looks like a classy heel with the robe. I've been hoping that's how they call him up for ages!  Hell, team him with Joe Hennig and do a rehash. (Perfect and Genius were the blueprint for wrestlers I like 20+ years ago) |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 4, 2012 17:37:56 GMT -5
Daniel Bryan = next breakout star. I have no idea how this happened but hope that the E can capitalize on this.
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Post by #RUDO Coco Del Rio on Apr 4, 2012 18:58:29 GMT -5
Here's a more detailed spoiler regarding the Bryan/AJ segment...
* Daniel Bryan & AJ come to the ring. Bryan says that if there was one good thing this week, it was that it allowed him to think about how everything was going so right, and how it has gone so wrong. He says “The truth is…” before pausing. AJ takes the mic and calls him a great wrestler and a great person and says that she isn’t the only one who thinks that. She points out all the “YES” signs and how his name is chanted when he’s not in the ring and how we are all here to support him. Bryan says it feels like everyone is mocking him. He says that if people were supporting him, they wouldn’t cheer “YES” for The Rock. He calls the people sheep. He says it makes it worse that AJ cost him the title. He says he beat two giants in a cage and he overcame 5 people in the Elimination Chamber, but her kiss flushed it all down the toilet. He says that AJ doesn’t get to rewrite this story, and it is all her fault. He says that it was his first WrestleMania and he walked in as World Heavyweight Champion. Her clinginess cost him the greatest night of his life. He will never let her ruin his life like that again.
* Bryan says he has a rematch clause with Sheamus and he will do it the right way: alone. He tells her to get into her SUV and go eat some cheeseburgers as he gets rid of the dead weight. He says they are through and that was the last kiss that she’ll ever get from him. She tries to reason with him but he tells her to get out and turns his back on her as she goes to the back crying.
So there. Bryan still has his rematch clause and we're most likely getting a Triple Threat match at Extreme Rules.
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Post by audiencewatching on Apr 4, 2012 19:40:19 GMT -5
Any pics of the smackdown logo/set change thanks to John?
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Post by CH Punk on Apr 4, 2012 19:53:04 GMT -5
Any pics of the smackdown logo/set change thanks to John? Seems like something in the future as these pictures don't show anything new:   |
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Post by Cronant on Apr 4, 2012 19:53:38 GMT -5
that segment sounds awesome. Bryan has lost his mind and its going to be hilarious.
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Post by audiencewatching on Apr 4, 2012 19:57:16 GMT -5
Ah right, I read:
"Laurinaitis introduced new Smackdown graphics on the arena walls. "
Thought it would be a logo tweak
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Post by CH Punk on Apr 4, 2012 20:08:14 GMT -5
Ah right, I read: "Laurinaitis introduced new Smackdown graphics on the arena walls. " Thought it would be a logo tweak I really don't know what would have changed as the set, the ring and the in-arena ticker thing haven't changed, but he might show this:  |
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Post by mrjl on Apr 4, 2012 20:18:50 GMT -5
Well, to be perfectly honest I think if I met you my reaction would be trying to get away as quick as possible. Riding out of town on your high horse, no doubt.  All kidding aside, I respect your opinions, but I just don't share them. You seem far too emotionally invested in the supposed morality of a sport written with the basest of human nature in mind. Wrestling is testosterone-fueled escapism; a place where personal aggression and frustration can be taken out vicariously through the support/disdain of certain archetypes. The cool thing about wrestling is that there’s all sorts of characters for everyone. From your post history, you seem to despise anything not of a pure, hero nature. You hate shades of gray, attitude, and anything remotely aggressive for machismo sake. And that’s cool. But for A LOT of people, you have to realize, they just find the absurd, over-the-top personas and acts of some heels so perversely amusing that they support the character. Wrestling is not real life. It’s a big cartoon. To some, there’s just something hilarious about a 200 pound vegan who drives a prius, being so pretentious that he dumps his super-attractive athlete girlfriend for being “fat”. It’s just so out there. In real life, Stifler from the American Pie movies would be despised. But he, on average, is considered the most popular character in the franchise because he’s such a monumental tool it’s hilarious to watch him do and say things no one else would in real life without being killed. You need to learn to detach your own haughty sense of judgmental morality and obvious disdain from darker, edgier characters others seem to enjoy. Support your team. But respect other people’s right to do the same without always dragging s*** down into an ethical pissing contest. They say the best way to win an argument is to present reasons why your argument is sounder and more rational. Not attacking others opinions, simply because they stray from your own. No one makes a believer that way. You just annoy people. okay, here's the thing. I'm not a big fan of shades of grey. But some things I like such as turnabout is fair play, AKA two wrongs make a right, is definately a shade of grey. What I'm less of a fan of is black being dressed up as grey so it's acceptable to cheer. Now I'm going to toss out some examples of my mindset here. I was almost never a fan of Stone Cold Steve Austin(I'm sure I found myself rooting for him a time or two because he was the lesser of two evils.) I bring this up because remember when he Stunnered Stacy Kiebler because she wouldnt drink a beer with him. Fans were stunned. And thought it was a bad idea. To me it was a logical extension of his character. In years past when he didn't do stuff like that it was as much an acknowledgement of a fake character as if Hogan was caught slapping kids. He'd have never have stopped what he was going to do if he got a Hell No instead of a Hell Yeah. There's this tendency of believing everything that;s said that some fans to believe the stuff that's said, no matter what. Assuming a character never lies isn't part of suspension of disbelief or anything like that. Not everything has to be taken at face value. Just because Batista over heard Triple H spell out his plan to make him go after JBL doesn't mean he never knew before. It just means he heard it confirmed. You say you, and others, think it's over the top for Daniel Bryan to dump AJ for being "fat." I say it's over the top for fans to believe the character of Daniel Bryan actually believes the character of AJ is fat and that he didn't just say it to be mean. See many of these lines that comes across to you as some aspect of personality, such as Bryan's pretentiousness, just translate to me as the result of a guy thingking: 'I want to piss off this wrestler,' 'I want to intimidate this announcer,' 'I want to make this diva cry.' The Rock's promos generally carry the following message for me: "I'm generating a cheap pop, but am much less honest about it than Mick Foley. I have an inflated ego. I'm going to to string together three inherently funny words to make all you monkeys laugh. Laugh monkeys laugh. I'm going to humiliate my opponent. Play the monkeys one more time... and I'm done." I like John Cena because I believe the character and like what he stands for. I believe I've pointed this out in the past. Which to me makes it more rational than just declaring Cena isn't badass enough. And considering the nature of the character is one of the things I like and others dislike, I'm not sure how I can support my team without bringing it up. |
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Post by mrjl on Apr 4, 2012 21:31:13 GMT -5
so, the way Sandow's gimmick is described, kind of makes me think the whole Husky Harris debuting as cult leader thing won't happen
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Post by CH Punk on Apr 4, 2012 21:37:57 GMT -5
so, the way Sandow's gimmick is described, kind of makes me think the whole Husky Harris debuting as cult leader thing won't happen If his gimmick stays exactly the same as when he was in FCW then it's more of an elitist gimmick (His twitter account is currently run by his personal scribe Ignatius and his promos start by him demanding that they cut the lights and turn on his personal spotlight by going: "Lights!... Spotlight!) |
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Post by flatsdomino on Apr 4, 2012 21:45:32 GMT -5
Riding out of town on your high horse, no doubt. All kidding aside, I respect your opinions, but I just don't share them. You seem far too emotionally invested in the supposed morality of a sport written with the basest of human nature in mind. Wrestling is testosterone-fueled escapism; a place where personal aggression and frustration can be taken out vicariously through the support/disdain of certain archetypes. The cool thing about wrestling is that there’s all sorts of characters for everyone. From your post history, you seem to despise anything not of a pure, hero nature. You hate shades of gray, attitude, and anything remotely aggressive for machismo sake. And that’s cool. But for A LOT of people, you have to realize, they just find the absurd, over-the-top personas and acts of some heels so perversely amusing that they support the character. Wrestling is not real life. It’s a big cartoon. To some, there’s just something hilarious about a 200 pound vegan who drives a prius, being so pretentious that he dumps his super-attractive athlete girlfriend for being “fat”. It’s just so out there. In real life, Stifler from the American Pie movies would be despised. But he, on average, is considered the most popular character in the franchise because he’s such a monumental tool it’s hilarious to watch him do and say things no one else would in real life without being killed. You need to learn to detach your own haughty sense of judgmental morality and obvious disdain from darker, edgier characters others seem to enjoy. Support your team. But respect other people’s right to do the same without always dragging s*** down into an ethical pissing contest. They say the best way to win an argument is to present reasons why your argument is sounder and more rational. Not attacking others opinions, simply because they stray from your own. No one makes a believer that way. You just annoy people. okay, here's the thing. I'm not a big fan of shades of grey. But some things I like such as turnabout is fair play, AKA two wrongs make a right, is definately a shade of grey. What I'm less of a fan of is black being dressed up as grey so it's acceptable to cheer. Now I'm going to toss out some examples of my mindset here. I was almost never a fan of Stone Cold Steve Austin(I'm sure I found myself rooting for him a time or two because he was the lesser of two evils.) I bring this up because remember when he Stunnered Stacy Kiebler because she wouldnt drink a beer with him. Fans were stunned. And thought it was a bad idea. To me it was a logical extension of his character. In years past when he didn't do stuff like that it was as much an acknowledgement of a fake character as if Hogan was caught slapping kids. He'd have never have stopped what he was going to do if he got a Hell No instead of a Hell Yeah. There's this tendency of believing everything that;s said that some fans to believe the stuff that's said, no matter what. Assuming a character never lies isn't part of suspension of disbelief or anything like that. Not everything has to be taken at face value. Just because Batista over heard Triple H spell out his plan to make him go after JBL doesn't mean he never knew before. It just means he heard it confirmed. You say you, and others, think it's over the top for Daniel Bryan to dump AJ for being "fat." I say it's over the top for fans to believe the character of Daniel Bryan actually believes the character of AJ is fat and that he didn't just say it to be mean. See many of these lines that comes across to you as some aspect of personality, such as Bryan's pretentiousness, just translate to me as the result of a guy thingking: 'I want to piss off this wrestler,' 'I want to intimidate this announcer,' 'I want to make this diva cry.' The Rock's promos generally carry the following message for me: "I'm generating a cheap pop, but am much less honest about it than Mick Foley. I have an inflated ego. I'm going to to string together three inherently funny words to make all you monkeys laugh. Laugh monkeys laugh. I'm going to humiliate my opponent. Play the monkeys one more time... and I'm done." I like John Cena because I believe the character and like what he stands for. I believe I've pointed this out in the past. Which to me makes it more rational than just declaring Cena isn't badass enough. And considering the nature of the character is one of the things I like and others dislike, I'm not sure how I can support my team without bringing it up. No one's invalidating your reasoning for not cheering them on, just your sentiment that it's somehow wrong for others to cheer them. Your reasoning - which is fine, and you've certainly thought it out very well - isn't the issue. But that's how you watch the show, and view the characters. Another person might not get that from the Rock's promos. They might get something completely different from his character, and cheer that. Or they might get the same thing, and still cheer that. But there's no absolute wrong or right in how you feel about fictional characters on a TV show. and it doesn't even necessarily reflect on a person's character or moral fiber or whatever. You can find scumbags on TV entertaining without being one in real life. And even then, a "scumbag" to one person can be a hero to another. No one's wrong in that equation. |
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Post by Perpetual Nirvana on Apr 5, 2012 18:18:32 GMT -5
Feel sorry for Sheamus,the guy is getting slaughtered by fans even though what happened wasnt his fault.I actually think Bryan going face is the only way to go now,AJ on the other hand should take a leaf out of Eves book and be heel,its hard to feel sympathy for the girl after all the weeks of being bullied by bryan,yet staying by him and screwing Sheamus over by intefering in the tag match some weeks back.On another note,im rather quite concerned for Beth,jobbed out at Mania to an injured non wrestling celeb now loses in under a minute to Nikki Bella.. Now that it's unknown when Kharma will return, WWE probably decided to move the divas feud to Kelly/Eve and will use Kelly as a transitional champion from Beth to Eve (or Eve will win it in a Triple Threat at Extreme Rules). At this point I want WWE to just put the title on Kelly already. It's gonna happen, they might as well get it over with. Now they've just spent that past week making Beth look like a total joke. I'd rather have her doing nothing that losing to injured celebrities and a random Bella in under a minute. And someone will say "Oh well nobody cares about Beth" but nobody on the planet is gonna get over with that haphazard booking she's had. Anybody would have trouble getting over if they just gave them a title, then didn't have him appear, not even mention them, for weeks on end. |
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Post by percymania on Apr 5, 2012 22:47:14 GMT -5
This sounds better than their Wrestlemania match.
lmfao I can't wait to see this.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 6, 2012 0:18:43 GMT -5
I know Smackdown airs early in some places, but I don't know if it's aired yet. Has anyone seen the Sandow debut segment?
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Post by Gwak on Apr 6, 2012 2:10:23 GMT -5
YES, i did!! It airs before Raw Recap & the Alberto coming out to the ring for the main event.
Sandow talks about how entertainment is at an all time low.
How we've moved from things like shakeshere & mozart and moved to fist pumping to ear drum shattering bass in a sea of false tan and bravado (Ryder much?)
Says we've moved to mediocrity, but he doesn't blame us for this, he's going to save us from all of this.
Not exactly word-for-word, but they're the points i can remember from watching it.
I haven't seen much of him from his elitist FCW gimmick, but it sounds like it might be similar to it.
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Post by Richard on Apr 6, 2012 2:51:23 GMT -5
Just watched the AJ/Bryan segment and that was good but went like I somewhat expected. Audio seemed heavily edited. Bryan comes out to no pop despite fans going crazy and waving their signs, then a small yes chant and then near silence until AJ takes the mic from him and gets booed. Then Bryan starts calling the fans sheep and hating on them for chanting yes, heeling the crap out of AJ and a nice touch by turning his back on her (never called her fat, just looked her up and down and said he was getting rid of the dead weight and she could get in her SUV, go sit in a parking lot somewhere and eat her disgusting cheeseburgers). Still loud Yes chants throughout Bryan speaking and very audible "na na na na na" chants when he dumped AJ.
Also caught Sheamus' entrance and they had the hairdryer in full effect for it.
Cannot find the Ryback or Sandow parts.
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Post by Totorob101 on Apr 6, 2012 4:14:55 GMT -5
AJ is a terrible actress,she just stood next to Bryan with a complete blank expression while he tore her up.And he is right in a way,she did distract him by kissing him at WM,leaving him open to Sheamus to brogue kick him.Shes no sympathetic character at all,shes stood by this guy who has verbally abused her recently,she screwed Sheamus over in a tag match prior to Mania,she didnt care how Bryan would talk trash about people ect.The crowd enjoyed Bryan getting rid of her.Lets just hope she comes back as a heel because while she is cute,her character is not very likeable at all in kayfabe (in my opinion anyway).
Saw the divas match to...looks like Nikki Bella is still a heel,and unfortunatley Beth was made to look a joke once more.Kelly Kelly vs Beth looks to be on the horizon and i wouldnt be surprised if Kelly wins the title soon,Beth can not be taken as a threat right now losing to an injured celeb and in under a minute to a bella.
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Post by Steveweiser on Apr 6, 2012 9:55:56 GMT -5
Sandow is pretty much doing his FCW character here. He doesn't want to blame fans for their entertainment/personal choices, he wants to save them from those choices. "Thank you for your irrelevant opinions."
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Post by Richard on Apr 6, 2012 16:10:45 GMT -5
Finally caught the Sandow and Ryback stuff. Sandow was brilliance. Just amazing.
Ryback, has potential. He's obviously a face but the crowd didn't seem to care and his opponent sucked. Then they gave him a horrible finisher, with that Fishermen's Plex into a Samoan Drop. I get they don't want him spearing people because it was Edge's move and now Christian is using it but why not let him destroy people with a Lariat?
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