kidkamikaze10
Dennis Stamp
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Post by kidkamikaze10 on May 28, 2012 13:39:16 GMT -5
See, a lot of people when blaming Gail, seem to keep using guys as examples of how to handle things professionally. How to get management's attention.
I very much doubt that the divas have nearly as much pull.
And I say this as someone who's never enjoyed Gail's in ring work. Not even at it's "height" (her first KO champ reign).
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Big L
Grimlock
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Post by Big L on May 28, 2012 13:47:29 GMT -5
The way she quit WWE soured a lot of people on her, I think. That's not a good reason she felt like she didn't get treated right by them
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babyfootball
Don Corleone
At least as good as Ron Garvin!
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Post by babyfootball on May 28, 2012 19:28:01 GMT -5
They paid her, put her on TV or Webshows and because of them she met her husband. If that doesn't motivate her she doesn't deserve anything more. Also, she was sloppy from the moment she returned, in her matches against the supposed best like Beth, Mickie and Melina and that caused her lack of use. Even then, even if you think she wasn't treated right, put on good to great matches and deserved better, that doesn't excuse her absolute bulls*** move on live TV during a match when she wanted to quit. Exactly this. The way she ended her career in WWE made her look like an absolutely unprofessional bitch. She's a BITCH 'cause she's a woman, right?
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Post by Lance Uppercut on May 28, 2012 19:31:29 GMT -5
Exactly this. The way she ended her career in WWE made her look like an absolutely unprofessional bitch. She's a BITCH 'cause she's a woman, right? men can be bitches too.
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Post by norsisclouds on May 28, 2012 20:29:47 GMT -5
She choose money over getting to show off her talent and then wanted both sides of the cake. I mean, she asked for more money from TNA who decided to spend it on Jenna Morasca instead and went with WWE to be more financially secure. She knew what she was getting into...and then got mad that it turned out exactly as she expected. It's kind of odd in a way. Not necessarily true. She said that before she signed Laurinitis told her they'd had big fans for her and wanted to lots of storylines with her--basically gave her the impression they may even build the division around her. Then she signed and spent her time in the background, only wrestling for a title shot once and then not going anywhere. She was barely even a supporting character. I think they just said what they needed to in order to get her away from TNA and signed with the WWE.
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Jonathan Michaels
Bill S. Preston, Esq.
The Archduke of Levity
Here since TNA was still kinda okay
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Post by Jonathan Michaels on May 29, 2012 2:08:33 GMT -5
Because now Robert Irvine will never love me. You wanted to be held by those big arms, huh?
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Post by clashofchampains on May 29, 2012 3:33:18 GMT -5
She choose money over getting to show off her talent and then wanted both sides of the cake. I mean, she asked for more money from TNA who decided to spend it on Jenna Morasca instead and went with WWE to be more financially secure. She knew what she was getting into...and then got mad that it turned out exactly as she expected. It's kind of odd in a way. Why is it odd. She was underpaid in TNA, it's not like the WWE paid her millions, she wanted what's fair. And then after a stint there, she returned to her true love, wrestling in TNA. And I would not have a problem if Christian did this either.
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Post by quirkalicious on May 29, 2012 10:47:10 GMT -5
Also the way she left was VERY unprofessional, cuz MVP was vexed at his usage too, and what'd he do?? He didn't change things on the fly on live TV, he pulled Ace to the side and told him the ambition he had (Japan) for his career, whereas Gail probably just whined until she took her ball home with that elimination. Even now with her current reign, her only note worthy news to the outside world, is that she married a Food Network Star. "whined". how about no to the misogyny there. According to Gail (in a interview she did right before coming back to TNA) that's exactly what she did prior to the incident. She told management that she wanted some more opportunities and pitched ideas and they'd (being Vince or Johnny Ace) say they did't have much for her to do and told her to wait it out. This went on for months until she finally asked for her release a bunch of times and they would either convince to wait a bit longer or just refuse to grant her a release. and let's be real very few wrestlers period are significant outside the wrestling world. ask 100 random people who MVP is and see what happens.
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Celgress
Bill S. Preston, Esq.
The Superior One
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Post by Celgress on May 29, 2012 12:22:43 GMT -5
She choose money over getting to show off her talent and then wanted both sides of the cake. I mean, she asked for more money from TNA who decided to spend it on Jenna Morasca instead and went with WWE to be more financially secure. She knew what she was getting into...and then got mad that it turned out exactly as she expected. It's kind of odd in a way. Not necessarily true. She said that before she signed Laurinitis told her they'd had big fans for her and wanted to lots of storylines with her--basically gave her the impression they may even build the division around her. Then she signed and spent her time in the background, only wrestling for a title shot once and then not going anywhere. She was barely even a supporting character. I think they just said what they needed to in order to get her away from TNA and signed with the WWE. I agree with you wholeheartedly, there is little question in my mind that those in charge of the E mislead Gail Kim in order for her to resign. I feel there is more than enough blame on both sides here.
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Post by gnr123 on May 29, 2012 13:25:10 GMT -5
In my opinion I think that she has her head up her ass sometimes. The reason why she wasn't pushed in the WWE is because she doesn't have a character, and she never tried to find one. Sure, she's a good athlete, but if your dull as a door knob in the personality trait, your not going anywhere.
Also, the fact that she went right to TNA and was basically handed the Knockout's Championship is pathetic. She probably thinks being Champion means your the best, when basically a Champion belt is a prop a company puts on a wrestler because they want to put them over.
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Post by norsisclouds on May 29, 2012 13:25:56 GMT -5
Not necessarily true. She said that before she signed Laurinitis told her they'd had big fans for her and wanted to lots of storylines with her--basically gave her the impression they may even build the division around her. Then she signed and spent her time in the background, only wrestling for a title shot once and then not going anywhere. She was barely even a supporting character. I think they just said what they needed to in order to get her away from TNA and signed with the WWE. I agree with you wholeheartedly, their is little question in my mind that those in charge of the E mislead Gail Kim in order for her to resign. I feel there is more than enough blame on both sides here. Yea, and people have to keep in mind that its no secret that most of the talent, especially the Knockouts are grossly underpaid considering what they bring to the product in drawing power. Taylor Wilde had to quit her job at a sunglasses hut because she was embarrassed about people spotting them there. Gail has a younger sister to raise, and she asked TNA to try to match WWE's offer or at least double what they were offering--we don't know the specifics of it, but it wasn't enough money--and she DID give them the opportunity. It's business and life really. I'd expect anyone to take a better offer, and she said at the time she struggled with the decision but Laurinitis' assurances helped win her over. Saying she "knew the score"/what WWE is like towards divas isn't a fair assessment of the situation.
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Post by That Mickie Fan on May 29, 2012 14:59:13 GMT -5
In my opinion I think that she has her head up her ass sometimes. The reason why she wasn't pushed in the WWE is because she doesn't have a character, and she never tried to find one. Sure, she's a good athlete, but if your dull as a door knob in the personality trait, your not going anywhere. Also, the fact that she went right to TNA and was basically handed the Knockout's Championship is pathetic. She probably thinks being Champion means your the best, when basically a Champion belt is a prop a company puts on a wrestler because they want to put them over. When was she Allowed to show personality in the wwe? The very few times she was allowed to, She shined.
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on May 29, 2012 15:22:17 GMT -5
In my opinion I think that she has her head up her ass sometimes. The reason why she wasn't pushed in the WWE is because she doesn't have a character, and she never tried to find one. Sure, she's a good athlete, but if your dull as a door knob in the personality trait, your not going anywhere. Also, the fact that she went right to TNA and was basically handed the Knockout's Championship is pathetic. She probably thinks being Champion means your the best, when basically a Champion belt is a prop a company puts on a wrestler because they want to put them over. When was she Allowed to show personality in the wwe? The very few times she was allowed to, She shined. Really? When? I legitimately can't think of ONE promo or instance where she came across as anything other than wooden or a non-entity beyond being decent in the ring. I'm not saying you're wrong, I'm honestly legitimately curious. I'd be curious to see it, as I've never, not even her great run with Kong in TNA seen her 'shine' personality wise; and if she has that might be interesting.
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Post by That Mickie Fan on May 29, 2012 16:18:04 GMT -5
When was she Allowed to show personality in the wwe? The very few times she was allowed to, She shined. Really? When? I legitimately can't think of ONE promo or instance where she came across as anything other than wooden or a non-entity beyond being decent in the ring. I'm not saying you're wrong, I'm honestly legitimately curious. I'd be curious to see it, as I've never, not even her great run with Kong in TNA seen her 'shine' personality wise; and if she has that might be interesting. She has always the been the quiet but deadly type but when she does have promos she shows personality.
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