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Post by Deleted on Sept 18, 2011 22:35:26 GMT -5
I guess the idea is that Beth/Natalya are actually just spoiled brats who are coming up with excuses as to why they're not champion. Beth complains about typical diva matches, but all of a sudden changes her attire to be more diva esque and spanks Kelly throughout the match. And no the match was not bad, people just don't like Kelly Kelly. The same with the Cena/Del Rio match. Or people have different opinions from you. Hell, I don't mind Kelly - or particularly like Beth for that matter - but I thought the match was really sloppy and boring.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 18, 2011 22:35:32 GMT -5
The match was decent.
Not surprised at Beth losing. Probably the biggest reaction during the match was a chant for the city. That's the difference between being over for one night because you're from the city where the show is being held and being super over and wrestling in your hometown (Punk at MITB).
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Post by J.O.B. Squad on Sept 18, 2011 22:36:35 GMT -5
After this match tonight,I wonder if this is the end of the divas of doom cause what is this twice now beth lost to Kelly Kelly? I'm not a Kelly Kelly fan at all but Beth losing again makes her to look weak when she is quite the opposite.
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Post by botchingitup on Sept 18, 2011 22:36:52 GMT -5
It's the same thing WWE does with every other angle connected to real-life criticism they draw.
They set the heels up as a ridiculous strawmen (or women in this case).
"WWE Divas are too much like models, they're not actually athletic." "We'll change their tune - by taking the most athletic divas and then having the models beat them. That'll change their mind right?!"
Rather than actually making the division something worth caring about.
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Post by Heartbreaker on Sept 18, 2011 22:37:23 GMT -5
Okay... clearly I am pissed off from this pay per view and this is one of the reasons why.
Beth Phoenix: One of the best wrestlers, has a unique look, good character and worked her ass off to get where she is.
Instead they go with that untalented, generic Barbie doll who is one of the worst wrestlers I have ever seen in the ring. She has ZERO personality, ZERO wrestling skills and ZERO passion for the business. I have never ever liked her. She comes off being completely fake and not giving a damn about wrestling. Sadly, there's many other women like that on the roster. Tough Enough had that stupid "Melina vs. Alicia Fox" girl. EVERYONE knew that she had zero passion and what happens... they go ahead and sign her.
I always hope that there will be a new head of talent relations. Because I know than person can do a better job than Johnny Ace, who is the reason why this continues. There's literally thousands of people who want to be in the WWE but are turned down for generic models or bodybuilders.
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Post by BatPunk on Sept 18, 2011 22:37:34 GMT -5
... from Jacksonville, Florida
"THE ROLL UP QUEEN" Kelly Kelly!!
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Post by taniaclans0s on Sept 18, 2011 22:42:20 GMT -5
Several ppl have bought into the Divas of Domination move being a joke. Yes, KK once again pulled out a victory so where's the domination and change? Fair However, when this angle started - "change" was the big word. Tonight we saw an unprecedented event in the Superplex. I was really glad to see that. Change comes SO slowly. But that's one tiny step. The downers: Beth's spanking KK. Sorry that falls under the bimbo tactics category. And KK winning. Now what? Keep using/adding the power moves. Make matches longer but worth watching!
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Post by unoriginalalex on Sept 18, 2011 22:49:02 GMT -5
I'm very happy Kelly won, don't like Beth one bit.
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Post by rnrk supports BLM on Sept 18, 2011 22:49:23 GMT -5
Kelly as champion has been getting better reactions than most everything else WWE's done with its womens' division in years... including the various times they've seriously pushed the smark favorites with workrate like Beth and Nattie.
I see no reason to have her drop the belt anytime soon.
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Post by SAJ Forth on Sept 18, 2011 22:53:59 GMT -5
I can understand people being upset that Beth didn't win, I think she should have won also, but there was nothing wrong with that match. I'm starting to realize a large number of complaints about wrestling comes from fantasy booking gone awry. Yeah.
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Post by Slingshot Suplay on Sept 18, 2011 22:59:32 GMT -5
Who's next though? Every viable challenger has been exhausted because she already beat the Bellas and the DOD... Seems like everyone has held the title besides Rosa, Tamina, and the Chickbusters.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 18, 2011 23:01:31 GMT -5
Who's next though? Every viable challenger has been exhausted because she already beat the Bellas and the DOD... Seems like everyone has held the title besides Rosa, Tamina, and the Chickbusters. Guess when Layla comes back there's always her, but the Kelly / Layla series last year was bad enough. And if you wanna get technical Beth hasn't had it.
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Post by BigWill on Sept 18, 2011 23:02:42 GMT -5
Who's next though? Every viable challenger has been exhausted because she already beat the Bellas and the DOD... Seems like everyone has held the title besides Rosa, Tamina, and the Chickbusters. I'm assuming they're going to give Natalya a shot at the title next. Which I wouldn't mind, since I think Natalya's the better wrestler out of the DoD.
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Post by Rorschach on Sept 18, 2011 23:05:34 GMT -5
Okay... clearly I am pissed off from this pay per view and this is one of the reasons why. Beth Phoenix: One of the best wrestlers, has a unique look, good character and worked her ass off to get where she is. Instead they go with that untalented, generic Barbie doll who is one of the worst wrestlers I have ever seen in the ring. She has ZERO personality, ZERO wrestling skills and ZERO passion for the business. I have never ever liked her. She comes off being completely fake and not giving a damn about wrestling. Sadly, there's many other women like that on the roster. Tough Enough had that stupid "Melina vs. Alicia Fox" girl. EVERYONE knew that she had zero passion and what happens... they go ahead and sign her. I always hope that there will be a new head of talent relations. Because I know than person can do a better job than Johnny Ace, who is the reason why this continues. There's literally thousands of people who want to be in the WWE but are turned down for generic models or bodybuilders. I agree. That's TWICE now that Kelly has lucked her way into victory over Beth, yet you have the announcers portraying her as "silencing her critics!" How, by accomplishing a second fluke win in a row over a far more talented performer? And Lawler really needs to get his ideas straight: he rides Otunga and McGillicutty for having zero personality and he LOVES the Kellybot? Well, to be fair, I guess Otunga doesn't have quite the rack that Kelly does, and McGillicutty probably won't blow him, but still....
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Post by FailedGimmick on Sept 18, 2011 23:06:13 GMT -5
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Post by moneyman20 on Sept 18, 2011 23:08:16 GMT -5
So they're going to have another match? Who could possibly care now?
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Post by thelonewolf527 on Sept 18, 2011 23:09:31 GMT -5
I guess the idea is that Beth/Natalya are actually just spoiled brats who are coming up with excuses as to why they're not champion. Beth complains about typical diva matches, but all of a sudden changes her attire to be more diva esque and spanks Kelly throughout the match. And no the match was not bad, people just don't like Kelly Kelly. The same with the Cena/Del Rio match. Or people have different opinions from you. Hell, I don't mind Kelly - or particularly like Beth for that matter - but I thought the match was really sloppy and boring. I can accept different opinions, however there are some people in this thread who are just like "RAR KELLY SUCKS KELLYS f***ING AWFUL FIRE KELLY KELLY GO BETH PHOENIX!" and it makes me think that they didn't even watch the match and just hate that Kelly won. Now you say it was sloppy and boring, so I ask if you can point out the sloppy and boring parts to me. And I'll say again, name one other diva on the WWE roster outside of maybe Natalya that would take a top rope superplex from Beth Phoenix. Kelly at least deserves some credit for some of the spots she takes.
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Post by Rorschach on Sept 18, 2011 23:11:13 GMT -5
Or people have different opinions from you. Hell, I don't mind Kelly - or particularly like Beth for that matter - but I thought the match was really sloppy and boring. I can accept different opinions, however there are some people in this thread who are just like "RAR KELLY SUCKS KELLYS f***ING AWFUL FIRE KELLY KELLY GO BETH PHOENIX!" and it makes me think that they didn't even watch the match and just hate that Kelly won. Now you say it was sloppy and boring, so I ask if you can point out the sloppy and boring parts to me. And I'll say again, name one other diva on the WWE roster outside of maybe Natalya that would take a top rope superplex from Beth Phoenix. Kelly at least deserves some credit for some of the spots she takes. Not a fair demand, since there AREN'T many left to begin with.
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Post by FailedGimmick on Sept 18, 2011 23:13:12 GMT -5
So they're going to have another match? Who could possibly care now? Did you watch the video in the link? Beth's losing it.
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Post by cabbageboy on Sept 18, 2011 23:16:56 GMT -5
I was thinking that since they did a horrid mistake at SS with Kelly retaining that tonight would be the equivalent to Benoit beating Orlando Jordan in 20 seconds. I have no possible clue what they are thinking with this booking. It's not getting Kelly over since no one buys it. It's burying Beth beyond words at a time when she and Nattie did a sweeping heel turn to run roughshod over the divas.
Honestly this is the lamest women's title push since Taylor Wilde won the Knockouts title from Awesome Kong in TNA and won every match with a rollup.
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