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Post by Todd Pettengill on May 25, 2012 12:41:12 GMT -5
This is Earthquake Squashing Damien levels of bad news.
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Post by Deleted on May 25, 2012 12:43:57 GMT -5
Work- What law enforcement agency anywhere manages to cross the Portugese-English language barrier offer repercussions of "you won't be arrested if you apologize to an arena full of wrestling fans" and then authorize the match to be restarted? So, basically you're saying that it's just silly to think there are English-speaking law enforcement officers in Brazil, someone who could have informed Jericho that he needed to apologize for disrespecting the flag (which is a crime in Brazil)? |
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Post by BigWill on May 25, 2012 12:48:36 GMT -5
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Post by MolotovMocktail on May 25, 2012 12:56:12 GMT -5
Work- What law enforcement agency anywhere manages to cross the Portugese-English language barrier offer repercussions of "you won't be arrested if you apologize to an arena full of wrestling fans" and then authorize the match to be restarted? So, basically you're saying that it's just silly to think there are English-speaking law enforcement officers in Brazil, someone who could have informed Jericho that he needed to apologize for disrespecting the flag (which is a crime in Brazil)? I'm sure there are, but how many people do you think understood Jericho's apology? This actually goes to a broader question I've had for some time about wrestlers cutting promos in non-English speaking countries. How much reaction, positive or negative, can promos get with a language barrier? |
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Post by Bo Rida on May 25, 2012 12:58:28 GMT -5
What old school heels broke actual laws as opposed to just being insulting or disrespectful? I'm sure some did but I'm struggling to think of any specific examples other than the more recent JBL one (obviously I mean as part of the show not what they got up to outside the ring). Yes, hence the "that's illegal" chants. I doubt there were coppers around or that they were that bothered. There are differences in enforcement in things like that - if someone makes a complaint then they might act, but otherwise they're not going to send the massed forces of Scotland Yard after you. If I'm not mistaken, smoking indoors is legal when doing a public performance, which is why they didn't have any problems. That is correct. Finally Jericho should be booked in a flag match when he gets back. |
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Post by Deleted on May 25, 2012 12:58:40 GMT -5
While I can't stand hypersensitivity, I think a lot of people are making a big deal because this is Jericho, and lots of guys here worship the dirt he walks on. If this were Khali or Big Show or some other guy the IWC hates there would be a lot more understanding for the Brazilians but since this is Jericho it's nothing but BS and nonsense.
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Post by Deleted on May 25, 2012 13:00:31 GMT -5
So, basically you're saying that it's just silly to think there are English-speaking law enforcement officers in Brazil, someone who could have informed Jericho that he needed to apologize for disrespecting the flag (which is a crime in Brazil)? I'm sure there are, but how many people do you think understood Jericho's apology? This actually goes to a broader question I've had for some time about wrestlers cutting promos in non-English speaking countries. How much reaction, positive or negative, can promos get with a language barrier? I meant that I didn't see how it was a work based on that. To call it a work ignores that it is a crime in Brazil to disrespect the flag. Jericho could have been arrested had he not been given the option to apologize and taken it. |
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Post by kidglov3s on May 25, 2012 13:02:20 GMT -5
Punch a woman? No repercussion.
Kick a flag? Indefinite suspension.
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Post by stinger on May 25, 2012 13:05:35 GMT -5
This is the biggest WWE story in Brazil since the inaugural WWWF Championship Tournament in Rio de Janeiro.
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Post by Dub H on May 25, 2012 13:05:58 GMT -5
what.I hate Brazil,i really do,and i leave here,but being mad at the Brazilian by something the POLICE did,is something ridiculous.
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Post by Widow's Peak on May 25, 2012 13:06:40 GMT -5
An interesting take for a live report on ProWrestling.net:
8. CM Punk defeated Chris Jericho to retain the WWE Championship. The highlight of the show, but for negative reasons. Some "Y2J" chants could be heard, but they stopped when Jericho cut a heel promo. But then Punk entered with a very good pop. Then someone give to both of them the Brazilian flag, but Jericho disrespected (?) the Brazilian flag by kicking it away. Punk hit some atomic drops in the beginning of the match and then started to making fun of Jericho.
Soon after Jericho hit Punk in the eyes and the match stopped. Then, Jericho apologized for kicking the flag and blah, blah, blah (it was really odd and affected the quality of the match, since nobody really understand why he apologized) . In the end, Jericho locked Punk in the Walls of Jericho but Punk got the ropes for the break. Frustrated, Jericho tried to hit Punk with a chair, but Punk avoided and hit the GTS for the win.
The show ended with Punk celebrating with the fans after his victory.
Other Thoughts
-Everybody in that arena knew that WWE is a entertaining show, so nobody got offended by what Chris did. At the moment that happened I thought it was an awesome way to draw some heat of the crowd. The government should know that he is just playing a character and this wasn't his personal opinion about Brazil. I was really shocked when I saw on the WWE website that Jericho was suspended. I'm very ashamed of my country and I hope that this incident doesn't make WWE stop to come here, because that was a really good show and I want to have another WWE experience on Brazil.
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Post by Massive G on May 25, 2012 13:06:56 GMT -5
is... is this real?
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Post by BigWill on May 25, 2012 13:19:59 GMT -5
While I can't stand hypersensitivity, I think a lot of people are making a big deal because this is Jericho, and lots of guys here worship the dirt he walks on. If this were Khali or Big Show or some other guy the IWC hates there would be a lot more understanding for the Brazilians but since this is Jericho it's nothing but BS and nonsense. I see you have the power to read the IWC hivemind.  |
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Post by deancubed on May 25, 2012 13:25:45 GMT -5
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Post by Andrew is Good on May 25, 2012 13:28:11 GMT -5
Anyway, just because it's a law doesn't make it right. It's a bulls*** law, where people in Brazil are making a sacred cow out of a picture on a piece of cloth. There's a reason people desecrating flags in protest is seen as a huge insult. The flag is a symbol of a country, disrespecting it is disrespecting the whole country. If anything is a bulls*** law, it's that destroying a flag is considered freedom of speech. BRICS I'd rather live in a country where people have pride in it. I'd rather live in a country with free speech and free expression. Everyone's opinion should be protected. If I disagreed with a country's stance on something and bashed it, should I be locked up? My free speech or expression hurts nobody and Jericho hurt nobody with his actions. This is sounding like North Korea nonsense. If I insulted the great leader, should I be sent to jail? |
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Post by sportatorium on May 25, 2012 13:29:55 GMT -5
Work- What law enforcement agency anywhere manages to cross the Portugese-English language barrier offer repercussions of "you won't be arrested if you apologize to an arena full of wrestling fans" and then authorize the match to be restarted? So, basically you're saying that it's just silly to think there are English-speaking law enforcement officers in Brazil, someone who could have informed Jericho that he needed to apologize for disrespecting the flag (which is a crime in Brazil)? I guess I'm putting it into the perspective of if there were some sort of traveling show here that the police were working security, one of the performers broke, say a public decency law that they didn't understand, then, no I don't think the police could cross the language barrier on the fly, offer the absurd "apologize or go to jail" choice and then restart the show. I certainly could be wrong, but this feels like a carny-style work. |
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Post by Andrew is Good on May 25, 2012 13:34:34 GMT -5
Also, didn't R-Truth smoke indoors in England, isn't that illegal? This is just bulls*** from a backwards country. Yes, hence the "that's illegal" chants. I doubt there were coppers around or that they were that bothered. There are differences in enforcement in things like that - if someone makes a complaint then they might act, but otherwise they're not going to send the massed forces of Scotland Yard after you. Also, enough of the idiot xenophobic comments. I bet there are plenty of laws in your country that others think of as backwards! While it's not the sort of thing that offends me, you obey the laws of the country you visit. When in Rome and all that. Or you deal with getting arrested. William Regal tweeted me this story a while back: "In the old coliseum in Jackson Fl in 94 there was an American flag hanging on the wall and after a match with Larry Z I went to pull it down and a cop stuck a gun to my head and said"I suggest you don't do that sir".I went completely out of character and said"I'm dreadfully sorry" and just walked back to the dressing room like a muppet" So, legal or not, plenty of people your supposed civilised countries get uppity at things like that. If there were plenty of bulls*** laws in Canada I would definitely stand up against them. This is a bit of an extreme example, but what about Rosa Parks. She rode on the bus where a white person should sit and got arrested for it. Am I xenophobic for saying that law was bulls***? And brought by a Brazillian, to them it was entertainment, boo that heel, but the bulls*** law was almost enforced and Jericho was forced to apologize. What about Martin Luther King Jr, going to jail for violating unjust laws. The freedom riders, black and white students standing up against the bullshit laws of segregation. Should he have apologized to the white cops wanting to throw him in an Alabama jail? Is it ok to stone women who got raped because that's the punishment for an unjust law. f*** unjust laws and this is one of them. Going to jail for kicking a flag, the fact people accept this blows my mind. |
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Post by Kitty Shamrocks on May 25, 2012 13:42:24 GMT -5
Yes, hence the "that's illegal" chants. I doubt there were coppers around or that they were that bothered. There are differences in enforcement in things like that - if someone makes a complaint then they might act, but otherwise they're not going to send the massed forces of Scotland Yard after you. Also, enough of the idiot xenophobic comments. I bet there are plenty of laws in your country that others think of as backwards! While it's not the sort of thing that offends me, you obey the laws of the country you visit. When in Rome and all that. Or you deal with getting arrested. William Regal tweeted me this story a while back: "In the old coliseum in Jackson Fl in 94 there was an American flag hanging on the wall and after a match with Larry Z I went to pull it down and a cop stuck a gun to my head and said"I suggest you don't do that sir".I went completely out of character and said"I'm dreadfully sorry" and just walked back to the dressing room like a muppet" So, legal or not, plenty of people your supposed civilised countries get uppity at things like that. If there were plenty of bulls*** laws in Canada I would definitely stand up against them. This is a bit of an extreme example, but what about Rosa Parks. She rode on the bus where a white person should sit and got arrested for it. Am I xenophobic for saying that law was bulls***? And brought by a Brazillian, to them it was entertainment, boo that heel, but the bulls*** law was almost enforced and Jericho was forced to apologize. Well, it finally happened. I read something so baffling I just can't go on the internet anymore. |
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Post by Spankymac is sick of the swiss on May 25, 2012 13:45:29 GMT -5
Yes, hence the "that's illegal" chants. I doubt there were coppers around or that they were that bothered. There are differences in enforcement in things like that - if someone makes a complaint then they might act, but otherwise they're not going to send the massed forces of Scotland Yard after you. Also, enough of the idiot xenophobic comments. I bet there are plenty of laws in your country that others think of as backwards! While it's not the sort of thing that offends me, you obey the laws of the country you visit. When in Rome and all that. Or you deal with getting arrested. William Regal tweeted me this story a while back: "In the old coliseum in Jackson Fl in 94 there was an American flag hanging on the wall and after a match with Larry Z I went to pull it down and a cop stuck a gun to my head and said"I suggest you don't do that sir".I went completely out of character and said"I'm dreadfully sorry" and just walked back to the dressing room like a muppet" So, legal or not, plenty of people your supposed civilised countries get uppity at things like that. If there were plenty of bulls*** laws in Canada I would definitely stand up against them. This is a bit of an extreme example, but what about Rosa Parks. She rode on the bus where a white person should sit and got arrested for it. Am I xenophobic for saying that law was bulls***? And brought by a Brazillian, to them it was entertainment, boo that heel, but the bulls*** law was almost enforced and Jericho was forced to apologize. What about Martin Luther King Jr, going to jail for violating unjust laws. The freedom riders, black and white students standing up against the bulls*** laws of segregation. Should he have apologized to the white cops wanting to throw him in an Alabama jail? Is it ok to stone women who got raped because that's the punishment for an unjust law. f*** unjust laws and this is one of them. Going to jail for kicking a flag, the fact people accept this blows my mind.  .......I think this thread is finished. There's just....nowhere to go from here but further down into the pit. |
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Post by Andrew is Good on May 25, 2012 13:46:41 GMT -5
How are these bad examples. These are people standing up for their rights. Seriously. I do know the differences with prejudice, but by some people's logic, we should respect unjust laws and cultures. That's the point I'm making. Should the culture in the States in the early part of the 20th century be respected? No.
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