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Post by bestthateverdidit on Nov 11, 2011 9:46:49 GMT -5
He's a guy who can have damn good matches with great opponents, but has horrible matches with guys he has to carry. He's just not a guy who can carry people. Mark Henry
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Post by Spankymac is sick of the swiss on Nov 11, 2011 9:49:26 GMT -5
Randy Orton bores me. I'd say I don't like him as a performer, but that implies I pay enough attention to have an opinion. I've just never found him interesting, barring the VERY brief "RNN" thing built around his first big injury.
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Post by Manute Bol on Nov 11, 2011 9:53:36 GMT -5
His match quality has improved tremendously since his move to Smackdown earlier this year. And by "improved", I mean it's no longer mind-numbingly boring. I'd still rather watch, say, Tyson Kidd, and I'm not even a Tyson Kidd fan. In fact, Tyson Kidd is a good comparison, because they've both gone through stupid haircuts and neither of them can cut a promo to save their lives. I think Randy would do a solid job wrestling Trent Baretta on Superstars every week. says a poster who has Sheamus in his sig, who is quite frankly awful in the ring, and has never had 1/10th as good a match as Randy Orton has had with Christian, COdy Rhodes, even Mark Henry this year. Sheamus and WADE BARRETT are the two most overrated wrestlers of all time I swear. I am not an Orton fan at all. I teach high school kids who just came to the United States from Bangladesh and Pakistan and most of them are really into wrestling. They all love Cena and Orton, so I get why the WWE is behind him so much. But to say Sheamus and Barrett are overrated is just crazy. They both have good looks, can go in the ring, and cut good promos (especially Barrett). I'd say Orton is MUCH more overrated than either of these two.
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Post by Kash Flagg on Nov 11, 2011 9:57:16 GMT -5
He's a guy who can have damn good matches with great opponents, but has horrible matches with guys he has to carry. He's just not a guy who can carry people. Mark Henry I don't think Orton carried Henry.
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Post by bestthateverdidit on Nov 11, 2011 10:04:13 GMT -5
I don't think Orton carried Henry. oh really? I must have been seeing things when Orton was bumping his arse off and doing everything in his power to make Henry look good which is usualy the job of the heel. but hey - you hate Orton so obviously he didn't carry Henry.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 11, 2011 10:20:20 GMT -5
IMO, he's more interesting now than ever. His in-ring gestures are always hilarious.
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Post by BigWill on Nov 11, 2011 10:29:54 GMT -5
I don't think Orton carried Henry. When's the last time Mark Henry's had a match that good?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 11, 2011 10:32:04 GMT -5
I don't think Orton carried Henry. When's the last time Mark Henry's had a match that good? Granted, but before his heel turn, when was the last time Henry had a match that lasted past 2 minutes?
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Post by The Ichi on Nov 11, 2011 10:33:07 GMT -5
I don't think Orton carried Henry. When's the last time Mark Henry's had a match that good? He's pretty much only wrestled the Big Show and John Morrison since then. I agree Orton made him look like a million bucks, but let's not sell Henry short. He doesn't need to be carried.
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Post by BigWill on Nov 11, 2011 10:36:01 GMT -5
When's the last time Mark Henry's had a match that good? Granted, but before his heel turn, when was the last time Henry had a match that lasted past 2 minutes? True, but for good reason. Before his heel turn I don't think I could sit through a Mark Henry match that lasted more than 2 minutes.
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Post by Kash Flagg on Nov 11, 2011 10:45:32 GMT -5
I don't think Orton carried Henry. oh really? I must have been seeing things when Orton was bumping his arse off and doing everything in his power to make Henry look good which is usualy the job of the heel. but hey - you hate Orton so obviously he didn't carry Henry. When did I say I hated Orton? I didn't. That'd be like me saying you had posters of Orton all over your bedroom and you carve yours and his initials in trees. It's assuming, and I'm not the one being so defensive.
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Post by Germansuplex on Nov 11, 2011 11:02:45 GMT -5
To be honest, Orton used to have horrible matches with Triple H (amongst others), but it's been a while since then. In 2011, Orton could get a four-star match out of a broomstick. Haven't seen a bad (or even mediocre) match from him in a long time.
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Post by Vice honcho room temperature on Nov 11, 2011 11:12:04 GMT -5
Boring in most things... okay in the ring. I remember watching One Night Stand 2 and seeing him play with the crowd as the cocky cock and wondered why I hated him.... then the match started and he put on the chinlock. There was the 2009 version who made RAW insufferable because he wasn't interesting, took up alot of time, and wasn't good in the ring. Not bad just not good
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Post by Hit Girl on Nov 11, 2011 11:24:16 GMT -5
Talented, but boring.
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Post by HBL on Nov 11, 2011 12:27:19 GMT -5
His match quality has improved tremendously since his move to Smackdown earlier this year. And by "improved", I mean it's no longer mind-numbingly boring. I'd still rather watch, say, Tyson Kidd, and I'm not even a Tyson Kidd fan. In fact, Tyson Kidd is a good comparison, because they've both gone through stupid haircuts and neither of them can cut a promo to save their lives. I think Randy would do a solid job wrestling Trent Baretta on Superstars every week. says a poster who has Sheamus in his sig, who is quite frankly awful in the ring, and has never had 1/10th as good a match as Randy Orton has had with Christian, COdy Rhodes, even Mark Henry this year. Sheamus and WADE BARRETT are the two most overrated wrestlers of all time I swear. I gladly prefer Sheamus and Wade over Orton.
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Post by rnrk supports BLM on Nov 11, 2011 18:19:43 GMT -5
I don't think Orton carried Henry. When's the last time Mark Henry's had a match that good? Mark's improved quite a bit since his monster push started, IMO. I thought his matches against Sheamus at Summerslam and Big Show at Bragging Rights were both pretty solid, as good as his series with Orton.
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Post by Sajoa Moe on Nov 21, 2011 16:44:56 GMT -5
....ORTON.
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Post by froggyfrog on Nov 21, 2011 16:46:37 GMT -5
Orton is 100x worse than Cena imo.
His RKO out of nowhere shit is annoying and his Viper pound the ground is weird and makes him look like an idiot.
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Post by comahan on Nov 21, 2011 16:48:07 GMT -5
I think hes phenomenal. Great timing, great mannerisms, everything he does means something, consistently has good matches, etc.
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Post by Wolf Hurricane on Nov 21, 2011 16:48:41 GMT -5
Ever heard of a brick joke? This is a perfect example.
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