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Post by KobashiChop on Jul 31, 2012 0:37:09 GMT -5
As a (perhaps formerly) massive Davey Richards fan, this really sucks to read. What a group of dicks.
And after watching that Kozina/Kidd match, Kozina should be ashamed of himself. You're really tough for shooting on a 16 year old underweight kid with no concept of shoot wrestling. When the kid refused to choke him because it was illegal, I knew it was going downhill. I'd love someone to book Kozina against a Necro Butcher type. See how well his faux-MMA crap works there.
I like seeing MMA-influenced pro wrestling, but I hate seeing guys use their training to cheapshot someone, as it goes against the whole idea of Martial Arts. Kozina is just a dime-a-dozen TapouT-shirted douchebag.
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Post by The Summer of Muskrat XVII on Jul 31, 2012 0:43:06 GMT -5
They sound like a bunch of d-bags. Never really was a Richards fan
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Post by The Spelunker! on Jul 31, 2012 0:48:49 GMT -5
I'm greatly amused at how their damage control just makes them seem more like jerks.
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Post by Mozenrath on Jul 31, 2012 1:48:22 GMT -5
"Disrespect"? Maybe they should be Team Wahhhmbulance.
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Post by The OP on Jul 31, 2012 2:04:18 GMT -5
This is why you never pay anybody until after the show. It's "the Ultimate Warrior Rule".
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Post by Jeremy on Jul 31, 2012 2:12:25 GMT -5
Scamming promoters is just what we do to pass time between ju-jitsu classes
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Post by Emmet Russell on Jul 31, 2012 2:29:23 GMT -5
Even if you're a Davey fan and respect his ring work, this is a pure dick move on the part of 'Team Ambition'
They seem rather proud that they show up late. Any other job you would get warned and if you repeated it you would be fired. if you are scheduled to work you should be there on time. The promoter is justified in his frustrations, granted he didn't lose much in the way of cash, it's the moral of these guys showing up like their shit doesn't stink and leaving when they were scheduled and paid. That's a low move.
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Post by suben on Jul 31, 2012 2:45:45 GMT -5
"Disrespect"? Maybe they should be Team Wahhhmbulance. Well Davey IS a trained paramedic so he'd be all set in that thing. Unless Davey being a trained paramedic is as bulls*** as his annual claims of "retiring next year".
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Post by Steveweiser on Jul 31, 2012 7:31:26 GMT -5
Some interesting comments about this from Dave Meltzer and Bryan Alvarez, but more for what's coming up for Davey... {Spoiler}He's scheduled to return to ROH in September. But also... {Spoiler}He's scheduled to come in for Pro Wrestling NOAH, also in September, and win their Junior Tag League with Zack Sabre Jr., and be pushed as their top junior heavyweight. We should know a lot more come Wednesday when the Observer is out.
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Post by Dave at the Movies on Jul 31, 2012 11:50:27 GMT -5
Are we allowed to post the match here? I wouldn't know why not but I'm not sure why no one has yet.
It's extremely disturbing to watch especially considering the kid is just trying to work the match while Kozina is basically just acting like a douchebag.
Kozina hit two piledrivers on the kid and it looked like he was intentionally not protecting him by pushing the kid's body away while doing the piledriver. That is sick.
To me it looks like "Team Ambition" just decided to come down to the midwest and act like total douchebags. IT may have not been their intention but that is exactly what they did.
I'm really proud of Adam Pearce being brave enough to condemn what Kozina did even though they are friends.
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Post by Zombie Mod on Jul 31, 2012 12:02:38 GMT -5
old rule was "if it's not wwe owned footage (from a non wwe account/source.) then it's allowed."
current rule is you can put links to wwe owned footage from non wwe accounts but not embed them.
for this match, i'd link to it and put a possible warning about the content (havent seen it yet either.)
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Post by highfivessteve on Jul 31, 2012 12:09:27 GMT -5
What kind of disgusting, despicable lack of respect does that 'Teamwhatstheirname' show...
In all seriousness it's weird, but not totally shocked. Not trying to stir the pot but DR discommunicated himself with my partner and I re: shirts and he no-showed a local show in our area. Regardless, this instance is just lame!
Also, that Kozina match was beyond ridiculous. Nothing worse than when a wrestler with little-to-no notoriety bullies a rookie. That should never be ok'd, regardless of your ranking within the wrestling world.
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Post by khali on Jul 31, 2012 12:25:10 GMT -5
I've been disrespected at my job before, and I would bet most of us here on this board have been disrespected as well. But none of us ever grab our money and run off without working. I don't care what horrible thing they can say the promoter did. It's still theft. End of story. Feelings were hurt? Tough. You don't steal from people.
And I love how O'Reilly and Kozina seem to think they're big shots when they are so far below even Richards it's ridiculous. Kozina especially is so unknown and he seems to think he's like Taker or something, knowing all about respect when the young guys don't. There's nothing respectful about trying to hurt a 16 year old.
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Post by blockrocker on Jul 31, 2012 12:37:09 GMT -5
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Post by Throwback on Jul 31, 2012 12:39:28 GMT -5
someone send Lance Storm this story
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Post by khali on Jul 31, 2012 12:50:52 GMT -5
someone send Lance Storm this story That's gonna be fun to hear about when he's on F4W next.
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Post by Dave at the Movies on Jul 31, 2012 13:46:57 GMT -5
I got mad respect for that kid. Not only did he not try to shoot with Kozina but he didn't give up either.
The kid is skinnier than X-Pac in 1993 and Kozina the big bad fake MMA guy from Team Mouthpiece couldn't even submit him.
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Post by Dukect on Jul 31, 2012 14:04:42 GMT -5
You know this is one of the reasons why Pro wrestling will never be accpected by the masses again with crap like this
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Post by Hawk Hart on Jul 31, 2012 14:37:34 GMT -5
You know what, as shitty as it was to steal from the promoter, shooting on that kid was way worse. Seriously, what is this guy's f***ing problem? Look man, I'm sorry you're a fat loser that that's closer to getting a Social Security check than a Wrestlemania payday but how about you do something about it instead of taking it out on a 16 year old? What possesses anyone that's not f***ing stupid or f***ing crazy to justify this behavior? Legitimately assaulting a teenager over a wrestling angle may qualify this guy for both categories.
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Post by Steveweiser on Jul 31, 2012 15:41:13 GMT -5
New Kyle O'Reilly post...
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