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Post by Zombie Mod is not a ghoul. on Sept 29, 2012 14:09:32 GMT -5
for the 3rd or 4th week in a row where something i've been looking forward to watching something only for the universe to put a stop to it, i'm going to have to watch it again after the lottery.
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Post by 'Foretold' Joker on Sept 29, 2012 14:14:24 GMT -5
Nice episode. {Spoiler}Though one thing slightly annoyed me in that it wasn't that scary, I kind of associate weeping angels with being scary. however there threat level is still very high, killing off Amy and Rory puts them up there with Daleks & The Master in my opinion.
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Post by Legion on Sept 29, 2012 14:18:37 GMT -5
Another episode that probably would have worked better as a two parter to build the atmosphere, tension and dread.
I get they wanted to some quick episodes so they could split the season or whatever, but both last week and this really suffered in losing that extra episode that could have made them classics, but instead made them rather weak episodes with some great ideas.
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Post by Mr PONYMANIA Mr Jenzie on Sept 29, 2012 14:23:18 GMT -5
ABSOLUTELY MESMERICthe best paced story of the series by a HUGE margin, and it was heartbreaking ..... but that's the thing about the angels, THEY aren't evil, they only need the time energy to feed upon! and as for {Spoiler}MAMA angel ..... HOLY CRAPOLA that pre-title sequence ..... i let out a girly squeal when they showed it fully!!! and really good to have the ponds story end on a singular episode, shows the who universe can take you anywhere ..... and take you OUT just as quickly! yeah, just take a few years before any other emotional farewells ok JUST WONDERFUL BRING ON XMAS!!!!!
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Post by B'Cup x on Sept 29, 2012 14:32:55 GMT -5
by far the greatest episode of anotherwise lackluster (half)series.
So very good, though the trailer last week really did ruin the Rory will he/wont he decision x
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Post by B'Cup x on Sept 29, 2012 15:31:41 GMT -5
also {Spoiler}after throwing away a regeneration to fix a broken wrist, the Doctor only has 1 left, as this was such a redundant action to the episode it must be building to the anniversary and possibly explaining away the 13 regenerations x
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Post by Zombie Mod is not a ghoul. on Sept 29, 2012 15:39:17 GMT -5
also {Spoiler}after throwing away a regeneration to fix a broken wrist, the Doctor only has 1 left, as this was such a redundant action to the episode it must be building to the anniversary and possibly explaining away the 13 regenerations x {Spoiler}not really he could just have been giving river back one from when she "fixed him" during lets kill hitler, but if it means getting a multi doctor story i'm happy to not point this out.
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Post by Hassan bin Sober on Sept 29, 2012 16:01:17 GMT -5
also {Spoiler}after throwing away a regeneration to fix a broken wrist, the Doctor only has 1 left, as this was such a redundant action to the episode it must be building to the anniversary and possibly explaining away the 13 regenerations x {Spoiler}not really he could just have been giving river back one from when she "fixed him" during lets kill hitler, but if it means getting a multi doctor story i'm happy to not point this out. {Spoiler}It wasn't a regeneration, just regeneration energy.
I liked this episode but I don't see how there is ever a time when someone in a city as big as NYC isn't looking at the Statue of Liberty. Especially if it is caught standing in the middle of the street. I also didn't quite understand the ending. Seems that would create a paradox.
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Post by Perpetual Nirvana on Sept 29, 2012 16:07:28 GMT -5
Yeah, there are a few things to remember about the Doctor's regeneration limit as far as the new series goes.
1. The regeneration limit has never been touched upon in the new series other than a joke line in the Sarah Jane Adventures. For all we know there may not even be one. It was strongly hinted that the limit was self-imposed by the Time Lord higher ups and not something natural. Not only did the Time Lords offer the Master more regenerations (in The Five Doctors) but resurrected him with what appears to be a whole new set of regenerations during the Time War. Maybe the Time Lords lifted the limit during the Time War. Maybe with them gone it no longer applies. Who knows?
2. River gave the Doctor all her regenerations to save his life in Let's Kill Hitler. Since she regenerated twice that we know of, it's possible the Doctor has as many as ten extra regenerations now.
Besides, it dodn't look to me like the Doctor used the full packet of energy (as it was described in Mawdryn Dead) to heal her. As evidenced in Journey's End, a full regeneration either requires the Doctor to change or to syphon the energy into a nearby recepticle that biologically compatible. It didn't look to me like he used any more energy than it took to regrow his hand in The Christmas Invasion.
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Post by Red Impact on Sept 29, 2012 21:04:27 GMT -5
I'd been getting annoyed by Amy, but damn if that ending didn't make me tear up.
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Post by Spankymac is sick of the swiss on Sept 29, 2012 21:07:25 GMT -5
Solid ending, I'll admit, even as a non-fan of Amy. That said, I still don't understand the point of these "mid-season" breaks. Just breaks up the flow of the season for me.
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Post by Apricots And A Pear Tree on Sept 29, 2012 21:07:58 GMT -5
{Spoiler}can we just get a companion who when they leave they don't get cut off from coming back with out jumping thru time hoops?
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Post by WarChief on Sept 29, 2012 21:10:34 GMT -5
Solid ending, I'll admit, even as a non-fan of Amy. That said, I still don't understand the point of these "mid-season" breaks. Just breaks up the flow of the season for me. As I understand it, it's because the scripts aren't finished in a timely fashion. {Spoiler}can we just get a companion who when they leave they don't get cut off from coming back with out jumping thru time hoops? Martha, Mickey and Jack.
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Post by 'Foretold' Joker on Sept 29, 2012 21:12:27 GMT -5
Can someone explain: {Spoiler}How did that last Angel get Amy if both the Doctor and River were looking at it?
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Post by WarChief on Sept 29, 2012 21:13:48 GMT -5
Can someone explain: {Spoiler}How did that last Angel get Amy if both the Doctor and River were looking at it? {Spoiler}I believe either Amy backed up into the Angel, or The Doctor and River were looking at Amy. Peripheral vision? What's that?
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Post by Pgarodactyl on Sept 29, 2012 21:14:17 GMT -5
Can someone explain: {Spoiler}How did that last Angel get Amy if both the Doctor and River were looking at it? {Spoiler}Neither were looking at it. Both were looking at Amy.
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Post by Gerard Gerard on Sept 29, 2012 21:28:10 GMT -5
It's partly the scripts, also the notion of being able to spread a series' budget over two years, instead of one for one, which facilitates the likes of Angels Takes Manhattan and the bigger, movie-like set-pieces we've been seeing this season. Well, that's my idea for this year, at least.
The reason given for last year's split was the fact that Moffat preferred Doctor Who in Autumn, and wanted to readjust the masses by splitting the next two seasons up, ultimately ending with an Autumn start from then on.
It also gives a ratings boost four times a season, instead of two, as they've got two openers and two finales to curry ratings with. For the time being, anyways.
Given the relative hammering Who took in the press over the ratings of Series 5, it's understandable. Of course, there was no ratings decline, as much as DVRing just became more widely accessible over this side of the Atlantic, coupled with concurrent HD-channel showings and free showings on BBC's website, to viewers in the UK. BBC's iPlayer, of course, being the most popular service of its sort in the UK. Options the RTD-era Who only had to deal with in its infancy, and really took off in the gap between the handover. So when gauged on overnights, like the previous series, it was down, but when newer, more-accessible options were taken into account, ratings were comparable. Sometimes better, sometimes worse, holding steady all-in-all.
Mind, only DVR views within a week of broadcast are factored into ratings, and BBC's iPlayer counts don't even get a mention, when they're certainly a very popular means of viewing for the 18-25 demo, which is odd. So there's loads out there watching through legit, UK outlets which aren't considered just yet.
Then there's the fact the brand has grown globally over the last two years, since Moffat/Smith's arrival, with BBC America really getting behind it as a flagship-brand, since they gained the rights to air near-to-broadcast showings in 2009.
And that's even before we get those who prefer to acquire their Who through much-less official channels i.e. torrenting and 3rd-Party, unauthorized streaming outlets.
And I've gone off on an unsolicited tangent once more. Apologies.
Anywhose, I was a mess of quasi-manly eyes droplets of sweat near the end of that. I can forgive the Angels being an almost also-ran, considering the extent they'd to cover. There's an argument for a two-parter in there, but I prefer the short, gutting punch of forty-five minutes, than that of an overwrought, heavy-sentimentalized 90. I enjoyed it very much.
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Post by FinalGwen on Sept 29, 2012 21:43:49 GMT -5
{Spoiler}can we just get a companion who when they leave they don't get cut off from coming back with out jumping thru time hoops? {Spoiler}So off the top of my head, that'd just be Susan, Vicki, Steven, Ben, Polly, Victoria, Liz, Jo, Sarah, K9 mk.4, Nyssa, Tegan, Erimem, Frobisher, Flip, Mel, Ace, Raine, Benny, Kadiatu, Chris, Grace, Stacy, Ssard, Mary, Izzy, Feyde, Fitz, Compassion, Anji, Trix, Adam, Jack, Martha, Christina and Wilf, then?
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Post by WarChief on Sept 29, 2012 22:33:16 GMT -5
{Spoiler}can we just get a companion who when they leave they don't get cut off from coming back with out jumping thru time hoops? {Spoiler}So off the top of my head, that'd just be Susan, Vicki, Steven, Ben, Polly, Victoria, Liz, Jo, Sarah, K9 mk.4, Nyssa, Tegan, Erimem, Frobisher, Flip, Mel, Ace, Raine, Benny, Kadiatu, Chris, Grace, Stacy, Ssard, Mary, Izzy, Feyde, Fitz, Compassion, Anji, Trix, Adam, Jack, Martha, Christina and Wilf, then? {Spoiler}Mickey! Everyone forgets the poor Tin Dog
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Post by Burst on Sept 29, 2012 22:45:59 GMT -5
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