BigWill
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Post by BigWill on Oct 22, 2012 14:26:30 GMT -5
We not a torture rack lift for Shell Shock? He more or less winds up in that position anyway... Probably because they liked the idea of him being able to lift up 2 opponents at once, and if he used a torture rack lift, that'd be impossible to do.
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Post by comahan on Oct 22, 2012 14:27:50 GMT -5
I have heard the opposite. Yeah, most of what ive read have been people saying that theyve been better than expected.
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Post by machomuta on Oct 22, 2012 14:28:05 GMT -5
Remember when I said Rybacks muscles are for looks not strength and people thought I was bsing? Looks like you were right. Goldberg was the real deal unlike Ryback. Goldberg never had any problems with lifting heavy people.
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Post by YiHammer on Oct 22, 2012 14:33:48 GMT -5
We not a torture rack lift for Shell Shock? He more or less winds up in that position anyway... Probably because they liked the idea of him being able to lift up 2 opponents at once, and if he used a torture rack lift, that'd be impossible to do. False. Go to YouTube, type in Chikara Joshimania Night 1, go to 0:40. Yes that is a woman lifting two grown 180+ lb males with no support and submitting them in a torture rack
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Post by PKO on Oct 22, 2012 14:42:28 GMT -5
Yeah; new finisher time. To already have messed it up twice, it's best just to swap it now before they put him against Henry or Show.
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Post by BigWill on Oct 22, 2012 14:46:12 GMT -5
Probably because they liked the idea of him being able to lift up 2 opponents at once, and if he used a torture rack lift, that'd be impossible to do. False. Go to YouTube, type in Chikara Joshimania Night 1, go to 0:40. Yes that is a woman lifting two grown 180+ lb males with no support and submitting them in a torture rack Hmm, maybe it's possible then, though that clip doesn't show how she set it up. But I still think it's easier to lift up two people by fisherman rather than a torture rack.
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Post by WarChief on Oct 22, 2012 14:46:51 GMT -5
Maybe my memory is messing up, but I thought Heyman got pretty hurt from an F-5 back in 2003. I'm surprised he'd take a big move nowadays. Look at the difference in bumps from a Shellshock and an F-5, totally different animals.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 22, 2012 14:47:44 GMT -5
It's quite possible that they did, but then Ryback wrestled a 15 minute match and was too tired to do it. Why would anyone go into a match without proper cardio? Bryan has always said he trains so he can go 60 min without getting tired which he has done multiple times. Some train for show, some train to go.
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Post by bob on Oct 22, 2012 14:48:48 GMT -5
He needs a new finishing move. Ryback having trouble with Hyman with shell-shock is a pattern of difficulty he's had when working with heavier guys.
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Post by Bub (BLM) on Oct 22, 2012 14:52:41 GMT -5
He needs a new finishing move. Ryback having trouble with Hyman with shell-shock is a pattern of difficulty he's had when working with heavier guys. The funny thing is, Heyman is so short that he probably weighs somewhere in the same ballpark as guys like The Miz and Kofi Kingston, if not less. He's also been a pro-wrestling manager for decades and absolutely knows how to take moves. You can even see in the video that he bends his knees and tries to help Ryback lift him.
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Post by Mac on Oct 22, 2012 15:01:58 GMT -5
Swap it out because it's a stupid looking zero impact finisher thats about as frightening as Edge's spear
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Post by "Gentleman" AJ Powell on Oct 22, 2012 15:04:37 GMT -5
He should start doing it from a Last Call or Death Valley lift or something, easier to get them on his shoulders, then hook the leg & march.
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Post by Allie Kitsune on Oct 22, 2012 15:08:20 GMT -5
The backpack stunner is a better looking move anyway.
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Post by xCompackx on Oct 22, 2012 15:10:32 GMT -5
Better it happen at a live event than on TV I suppose. It happens.
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Post by bigbadbull on Oct 22, 2012 15:12:32 GMT -5
Better it happen at a live event than on TV I suppose. It happens. It did with Tensai.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 22, 2012 15:15:59 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Oct 22, 2012 15:19:37 GMT -5
He needs to start picking people up in some easier to manage way. This is going to keep randomly happening. Not because Ryback is too weak to be doing the move, but simply because it's awkward as hell for the recipient to help "hop up" with one foot in a weird position like that. He'll continue hitting it 95% of the time but still having screwups like this happen. This. Using a perfectplex hold to put a guy on his shoulders is totally unnecessary. The move already has his marching to give it flair, no need for the convoluted set up. Just lift them up like Punk does for the GTS. Should just pick them up from the side IMO, ala torture rack. Then cradle them in the same position he does now.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 22, 2012 15:22:38 GMT -5
Better it happen at a live event than on TV I suppose. It happens. It did with Tensai. If it happened with Heyman, it honestly might've killed his push. At least Tensai is freakin huge, Paul's just a regular fat guy.
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Post by BigWill on Oct 22, 2012 15:25:58 GMT -5
Now that he's no longer in the WWE, why not give Ryback Tyler Reks' old finisher? That move was too awesome to be used by a jobber anyway.
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Post by Xifax on Oct 22, 2012 15:26:09 GMT -5
How much can Heyman even weigh? He's fat, but he's not exactly a huge guy or anything. Shouldn't a hoss be able to pick up a sort-of-fat guy with like three tries?
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