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Post by Red Impact on Nov 18, 2012 8:54:56 GMT -5
You what the best thing about all the anti SEC frustration is? All the anti SEX frustration. Your anger warms my heart. You want different teams in there than let your team win. Polls are always subjective but I love them and college football is what it is in part because of them. I would prefer a big 12 v SEC title game but until a Big 12 team is proven better than another SEC team across the board, we face the possibility of SEC v SEC. Last year there should have been one, but Alabama got a ton of benefit from the voter collusion that always comes with coaches polls. Why they let coaches have a role in all this, I don't know. Also, why quality losses matters more to some fans than quality wins, I don't know.
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Post by jamofpearls on Nov 18, 2012 9:12:45 GMT -5
It just dawned on me that I will be seeing the Who in concert and not watching the SEC Championship game. But I'm very excited over a possible Alabama vs Notre Dame championship game.
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Post by ICBM on Nov 18, 2012 9:13:46 GMT -5
Quality loss: Bama #2 loses to #1 LSU in 2011. FSU #1 loses to #2 Notre Dame in 93. Quality win against a lower raked team counts but not as much as losing to a high high say top five team as long as it was close. That is actually a good thing. It means they examine games very very closely. The SEC is not the only conference to ever benefit from this.2006, Notre Dame #19 goes down swinging against #1 USC, Notre Dame moves up instead of down.
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Post by ICBM on Nov 18, 2012 9:15:12 GMT -5
Jam, I would skip The Who. Sorry that isn't even close. You could make $ off selling the tix
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Post by Red Impact on Nov 18, 2012 9:15:21 GMT -5
Quality loss: Bama #2 loses to #1 LSU in 2011. FSU #1 loses to #2 Notre Dame in 93. Quality win against a lower raked team counts but not as much as losing to a high high say top five team as long as it was close. That is actually a good thing. It means they examine games very very closely. The SEC is not the only conference to ever benefit from this.2006, Notre Dame #19 goes down swinging against #1 USC, Notre Dame moves up instead of down. But that simply makes no sense to me. Beating better teams as a whole should matter a lot more than failing against a better team. If the SOS gap was close, then sure, quality loss could be a factor. But in all instances, beating a better team should give a team more of a boost than losing to a better team. Otherwise, you just encourage shitty schedules and hopes that one rival game will be against an elite team.
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Post by jamofpearls on Nov 18, 2012 9:17:49 GMT -5
Well, jamofpearls, I'm sure you must have sacrificed SOMETHING to the football gods. After all, they bent over backwards FOR THE SECOND STRAIGHT NOVEMBER to bail out a Bama home loss courtesy of a Baylor win and Oregon loss. At this point, I just want ONE NATIONAL TITLE GAME WITH NO SMUG EGO CONFERENCE TEAMS! SEC football- where apparently they HAVE to play for every stinking title. I was actually calling the Oregon loss all week. They were in a similar situation that we were last week. The Kansas State loss, well, that was just gravy. I just hope that we can take care of business against Auburn, who I promise will show up against Bama next week. And playing GA in Atlanta is never not scary.
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Post by ICBM on Nov 18, 2012 9:17:50 GMT -5
Red, just like wrestling its how you win or how you lose. Case, LSU dropping spots this yr after terrible wins. Oregon dropped after wins that were not as impressive as their peers wins in the top five.
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Post by jamofpearls on Nov 18, 2012 9:19:50 GMT -5
Jam, I would skip The Who. Sorry that isn't even close. You could make $ off selling the tix The Who tix are a birthday present from my wife. She might crucify me for doing that. Its going to drive me crazy though, as Dad was talking about buying tickets to the SEC Championship Game.
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Post by jamofpearls on Nov 18, 2012 9:20:58 GMT -5
Also, watching Les Miles press conference after the win...I'm thinking he may be insane.
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Post by Red Impact on Nov 18, 2012 9:21:55 GMT -5
Red, just like wrestling its how you win or how you lose. Case, LSU dropping spots this yr after terrible wins. Oregon dropped after wins that were not as impressive as their peers wins in the top five. Oregon dropped because the SOS wasn't as good as ND's and K-State's. That's sort of the point, it's not about style, it's about how strong your schedule was. Objectively, Oregon's was worse, so they dropped in the computer rankings, even though the humans still had them higher. Margin of Victory wasn't a factor. If the two were close, then sure, the quality of loss could be used as a factor. But when you have a choice between them and decide "you played a much harder schedule, but it doesn't matter because they lost to a lot better team" then it defeats the purpose of having a harder schedule in the first place. All you have to do is schedule s***ty and hope one of your rivals does as good as you did.
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Post by ICBM on Nov 18, 2012 9:23:11 GMT -5
**** it I quit.
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Post by Jedi-El of Tomorrow on Nov 18, 2012 9:27:43 GMT -5
Quality loss: Bama #2 loses to #1 LSU in 2011. FSU #1 loses to #2 Notre Dame in 93. Quality win against a lower raked team counts but not as much as losing to a high high say top five team as long as it was close. That is actually a good thing. It means they examine games very very closely. The SEC is not the only conference to ever benefit from this.2006, Notre Dame #19 goes down swinging against #1 USC, Notre Dame moves up instead of down. 2006: Florida loses to #11, Michigan loses to the number 1 team. Florida got into the National Championship Game ahead of Michigan, and both had 1 loss.
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Post by BRV on Nov 18, 2012 10:03:40 GMT -5
- Florida defeats Florida State Friday afternoon - Georgia loses to Georgia Tech Saturday afternoon - Georgia then beats Alabama in the SEC Championship Game - Florida, by virtue of being the highest-ranked remaining one-loss team in the BCS standings, faces Notre Dame in the National Championship Game
It's not asking for much.
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Post by sryans on Nov 18, 2012 10:30:20 GMT -5
If we get another all SEC title game then I am not watching. I am not mad at the SEC for being good, but I literally have zero interest in seeing what failed NFL head coach has the best southern fried defense this year.
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Post by #Classic Hi-Definition X on Nov 18, 2012 10:45:21 GMT -5
ESPN College Gameday will be in Los Angeles next week for Notre Dame-USC.
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Post by jamofpearls on Nov 18, 2012 11:33:45 GMT -5
Dooley has been fired from Tennessee. Also, turns out The Who concert is on a Sunday, so I may still get to go to the SEC Championship Game.
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Post by StuntGranny® on Nov 18, 2012 12:19:35 GMT -5
So does Alabama's weak schedule just get glanced over by the voters/computers/whatever?
I don't ask this to troll, I'm just absolutely still bitter about Auburn in 2004 when they were kept out for a supposedly 'weak schedule'.
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Post by ICBM on Nov 18, 2012 12:19:40 GMT -5
Hooray for you Jam. Glad for ya. I'm moving to Valdosta soon and fully intend on catching at least one SEC championship game regardless of the teams.
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Post by MGH on Nov 18, 2012 12:23:19 GMT -5
@bfeldmancbs Notre Dame unanimous No. 1 in new AP poll followed by Bama, UGA, Ohio State and Oregon.
OSU > UGA
Not that this poll matters, but yeah.
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Post by Jedi-El of Tomorrow on Nov 18, 2012 12:35:45 GMT -5
So does Alabama's weak schedule just get glanced over by the voters/computers/whatever? I don't ask this to troll, I'm just absolutely still bitter about Auburn in 2004 when they were kept out for a supposedly 'weak schedule'. Auburn's non-conference opponents that season: Louisiana-Monroe, The Citadel, and Louisiana Tech. Auburn's signature win: Tennessee or LSU Oklahoma's non-conference opponents: Bowling Green, Houston, and Oregon. Oklahoma's signature win: Texas (which was their only loss, and they won the Rose Bowl) USC's non-conference opponents: Va Tech, BYU, and Colorado State. USC's signature win: California (which was their only loss going into the bowls) or Va Tech (who made a BCS bowl) Auburn's non-conference schedule wasn't as good as USC and Oklahoma's schedules. Also Auburn's signature win couldn't match up with Oklahoma and USC. They got the right matchup that year.
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