King Ghidorah
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Post by King Ghidorah on Jul 27, 2012 0:32:46 GMT -5
That sounds like a normal wholesome picture, just like the swimsuit pic I posted. Your bags of sand were not hanging out, and since you had a dress there was no need for pants! Now if I sent you a message saying "Oh that looks nice" That's not sexual harassment. FUN FACT: If you are a total stranger who has never spoken to a girl before, and you message her online, and compliment an image of her to break the ice, that has the tendency to usually pretty creepy regardless the level of smuttiness. Can more of the female voices of the forum weigh in on this thread, please? More seem to be needed. I didn't say otherwise.
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Post by boolz on Jul 27, 2012 1:15:33 GMT -5
All I know is she posted a picture of her chest and her 'f* me' eyes while wearing what looks like her fathers shirt. And I think she looks ridiculously hot.
What comments are people supposed to make?
I wonder what direction she'd go with the next picture if no one left a comment at all.
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Post by Mr. Self-Destruct on Jul 27, 2012 2:39:20 GMT -5
All I know is she posted a picture of her chest and her 'f* me' eyes while wearing what looks like her fathers shirt. And I think she looks ridiculously hot. What comments are people supposed to make? I wonder what direction she'd go with the next picture if no one left a comment at all. How about: "Wow, very nice picture!" or "You're very lovely!" or "Great picture, you look awesome!" As opposed to: "Damn, awesome tits!" or "Holy shit, I wanna f*** you hard!" or "Your lips would look even better wrapped around my...." It's about context people. Girls enjoy compliments, even ones about their looks...but what they don't enjoy is feeling like they're a porn star just because they are showing some cleavage.
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Post by Koda, Master Crunchyroller on Jul 27, 2012 2:53:08 GMT -5
All I gotta say is, if you willingly post a pic of yourself in which one of your breasts is nearly entirey on display(the only thing really covering her left breast up is her bra) you kind of have to know what kind of reactions you'll get, especially if you are an attractive woman.
Is it right? Hell no, but that sadly is how a lot of guys act. "Hey, I saw your pic where your left boob was almost fully exposed, wanna go out sometime?"
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Post by Mr. Self-Destruct on Jul 27, 2012 2:57:46 GMT -5
So girls that go to the beach should cover up because they should expect to be bombarded by guys shouting "HEY NICE TITS!"? And it's the girls fault for wanting to wear a bathing suit that isn't from 1920? And that she should "know better"? ![::)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/eyesroll.png)
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Post by Koda, Master Crunchyroller on Jul 27, 2012 3:05:56 GMT -5
So girls that go to the beach should cover up because they should expect to be bombarded by guys shouting "HEY NICE TITS!"? And it's the girls fault for wanting to wear a bathing suit that isn't from 1920? And that she should "know better"? ![::)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/eyesroll.png) Never said that. You just can't cover something like this all under one blanket. What you wear on the beach has a different set of "societal rules" than what you wear away from the beach. At the beach people are expecting to see people in swimsuits. All I'm saying is the girl in question should've stopped and went, "Hmm.......my left boob is almost hanging out of my shirt in this pic.....probably not the best thing to post on Facebook, especially if I don't want messages from creepy guys....."
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Post by Mr. Self-Destruct on Jul 27, 2012 3:10:09 GMT -5
Or she could just not add creepy guys, I suppose.
People who have 2000 Facebook "friends" make me wonder, anyway.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 27, 2012 3:20:10 GMT -5
She looks creepy herself to be honest
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The Line
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Post by The Line on Jul 27, 2012 3:23:04 GMT -5
She looks creepy herself to be honest how does one "look creepy"?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 27, 2012 4:07:30 GMT -5
She looks creepy herself to be honest how does one "look creepy"? By taking a pic of yourself while looking unkempt and desperate, as shown in the OP
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Post by "Gentleman" AJ Powell on Jul 27, 2012 4:54:33 GMT -5
A girl on my Facebook a while back posted a pic of herself full on naked, then someone said something like "Nice tits!", which granted isn't tactful like, at all, but she kicked off something fierce, thought it was stupid to be annoyed when you're posting pics like that.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 27, 2012 8:44:54 GMT -5
A girl on my Facebook a while back posted a pic of herself full on naked Doesn't that violate terms or something?
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Post by Baixo Astral on Jul 27, 2012 8:49:51 GMT -5
What does that matter? It's for her to interpret; it could be "showing off this outfit", it could be "I like this pose", it could be something innocent or something not-so-innocent...who cares? It's her business, and none of it justifies it if she's getting pervs commenting on it. Women sometimes wear revealing clothing; it's the way fashion tends to go. The woman at the bar in the skimpy red dress isn't necessarily wearing it so she can get some guy's attention that night; she might be wearing it because she simply likes it, because she wants her boyfriend to see it, because who-gives-a-damn-because-it's-none-of-our-business. Now here's where I'll concede that things can get a bit dicey: I know full well that if I have a daughter in the future, one of the internet lessons I'll try to impart on her is that if she chooses to put up pictures of herself in revealing clothing, in a "suggestive" pose, in a bikini, etc., then unfortunately she has to be prepared for awful creepers to write things to her. If I find out this possible-future-girl does it, anyway, I'm pretty sure I'd be upset with her not listening to me. How do I square that? I DON'T believe a woman is to blame for bringing on creeper attention, because arguing that is a means of justifying creeper behavior ("Your Honor, you shoulda seen the outfit she had on!"). Yet at the same time there's a feeling of that you'd want to tell your own theoretical daughter or whomever "Honey, you have to know better." It boils down to this: there's a saying that says "We need to stop teaching people how not to get raped/harrassed/etc., and start teaching people to just not rape/harrass/etc." It's true; the core of the problem is people with no social intelligence, with no respect for other human beings once they feel they've been sexualized, who cross these lines and make life miserable for so many people. If this core problem isn't being dealt with, then we're resorting to telling girls "don't dress sexy! Don't put pictures of yourself online! Don't do this, that, or the other thing!" That's a scary, scary thought, telling half the population NOT to do so many things that really shouldn't be considered poor behavior. Again, it basically justifies the creepers; "If she hadn't posed like that/dressed that way/etc. then nothing bad would've happened!". No, something bad happened because some creepy freak overstepped the bounds of appropriateness. That said, again, it's tough NOT to tell sisters/daughters/etc. these things, because rooting out creeper behavior is simply not something that'll happen overnight. It's tough not to feel "you have to expect that there are awful people who'll do/say/write awful things". But again, to make that the focus of one's take on it is to ignore the root causes of poor behavior. I could be foolish and leave my XM radio unit visible in my car when I park on the street outside my apartment, and it could get stolen...should I have not left it visible? Yeah, that's probably fair to say. But does scolding me over that really address why some criminal would come by and destroy property and steal somebody else's things? Post of the thread here. That should just be in HMark's sig. I opened this thread, and knew exactly who was going to post in it, and what they were going to say. Let's just say that some people have their tops off, and we can see what is underneath, and it ain't pretty.
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Post by "I'm Batman..." on Jul 27, 2012 11:21:39 GMT -5
I think both girls are attractive.
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Post by Sephiroth on Jul 27, 2012 12:12:40 GMT -5
This is a topic where there is no right side of the argument. Women should not have to put up with lewd and disgusting remarks, but if they don't want to hear them they should not put themselves in a position that invites them, such as posting a picture of their cleavage online for the world to see. Nuff said.
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The Ichi
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Post by The Ichi on Jul 27, 2012 12:29:35 GMT -5
Really, it's just a bodypart. Two lumps of muscle tissue. In this hot summer weather they've gotta let them breathe a bit. We as men just like to think it's in invatation even when it's not sometimes.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 27, 2012 12:51:25 GMT -5
If people don't want to be gawked at, they shouldn't put pics of themselves on a public SNS. I've got female friends who don't post pics of themselves online (mainly because they just don't care that much about facebook) and they don't seem to have this problem...shocking, I know.
Its not about blaming the victim. No one's saying, "SHE DESERVED IT!" But we have to acknowledge the world in which we live. People are just saying that you can't be surprised when it happens. That's just asking someone to acknowledge reality.
There was an example earlier in the thread where someone was like, "If I walk around with my wallet hanging out of my pants in a bad part of town, I'm not going to complain when I get robbed." First off, hell yes you're going to complain, because getting robbed sucks, but I think what they meant to say was, "I shouldn't be surprised when it happens."
If you walk around in a bad part of town with your wallet hanging out and get robbed - you are the victim and it definitely wasn't your fault that it happened. In a perfect world, things like that would never happen, but its not a perfect world and bad people exist who do bad things. It is that bad person's fault and blame should be laid on them, BUT we must all accept the fact that they exist and act accordingly.
By that I mean, we can't pretend that many men lust don't lust after boobs on the internet so when they see boobs they'll sleazily comment on them. Its nobody's 'fault' and no one should 'blame' anyone for it.
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Post by The Ichi on Jul 27, 2012 13:05:43 GMT -5
If people don't want to be gawked at, they shouldn't put pics of themselves on a public SNS. I've got female friends who don't post pics of themselves online (mainly because they just don't care that much about facebook) and they don't seem to have this problem...shocking, I know. Then you're a "prude", a "tease" or "most likely fat and/or ugly".
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Post by Deleted on Jul 27, 2012 13:11:02 GMT -5
If people don't want to be gawked at, they shouldn't put pics of themselves on a public SNS. I've got female friends who don't post pics of themselves online (mainly because they just don't care that much about facebook) and they don't seem to have this problem...shocking, I know. Then you're a "prude", a "tease" or "most likely fat and/or ugly". Yeah, life's full of little disappointments like that. I still contend people (men and women) put entirely too much stock in what other people say about them. So what dudes messaged her about wanting to bone her. Hit 'delete' and continue leading your life the way you want. Like, I live in kind of a s***ty part of Oakland. There's a fair amount of crime here - not the most, but certainly not the least, but I like my apartment, its distance to public transport and stuff like that. My parents think I'm crazy for living here and am inviting all kinds of bad things to happen to me. I know its not the safest place. I acknowledge this, yet I still live here because its my choice to do so. If I get robbed, car jacked, etc, (anything short of murder, cause - well, I'll be dead), then its not my fault, I'm not the victim, but at the same time I won't act like its so far out of the realm of possibility of happening. I won't be shocked that I got car-jacked in a s*** neighborhood. You just shrug it off and either move to a different neighborhood or get over it and continue living your life.
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Post by Michael Coello on Jul 27, 2012 13:15:15 GMT -5
Man, you say dirty things on a wall, you're a pervert. You say those same words in a song, you're a musician. Go figure. ![:P](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/tongue.png)
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