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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Jan 19, 2013 7:40:13 GMT -5
And no, it's not in the same stratosphere as a rape victim.hiding rape.
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Post by Red Impact on Jan 19, 2013 8:03:19 GMT -5
1. Why in the hell would his family go along with this and lie as well? This is the same family that blew a gasket when a Hawaii newspaper printed an absolutely true picture about how Te'o got knocked on his ass in the NC game. The girlfriend story got Te'o press, it got him Heisman press, and it probably improved his draft stock. It's not exactly unheard of for parents to lie to protect their kids, in fact it's really common when their children are athletes, when there's less at stake than the millions of dollars that'd come from being a first round pick. 2. If he is as stupid as everyone believes he is, then why would people think he was smart enough to make this lie. You don't have to be a genius to perpetuate a lie. You just have to have the right story and a softball press, which is what sports journalism tends to be when dealing with stories like this. 3. Have you ever seen how much a ticket costs to go from Indiana to California? That's a bit expensive to go there even if your girlfriend is on her death bed. He didn't say "It was just too hard for me to make that trip while in school" or "I couldn't afford to go" or "She told me not to go." He said "It never crossed my mind." If the "love of your life" was on their deathbed, wouldn't visiting her cross your mind at some point? 4. If he got duped, of course he would try to hide that he was a victim. Aside from the rape analogy, I actually agree with this. People don't like to admit that they were conned or tricked, it makes them look stupid. For someone who is in the public eye, it's even worse. I could imagine still going on pretending like she existed after finding out he was duped, just because him admitting he was duped would end up being on national TV with all the commentators, all the news stories, and all the backlash and accusations. But for the university to keep perpetuating after they supposedly found out is sleazy as hell. That said, he's done himself no favors, he comes off as either a guy desperately trying to hang on to a con or an incredibly naive guy who was already caught in lies. None of it makes him look good or innocent.
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Post by BayleyTiffyCodyCenaJudyHopps on Jan 19, 2013 10:01:14 GMT -5
Te'o is getting THRASHED on Twitter for saying it never crossed his mind to visit his girlfriend (HE WAS IN LOVE WITH) at the hospital. I think what ever naivete was left just got extinguished with that. Didn't help that he only did this interview as long as there was a restriction on audio. Why? If you're just clearing the air why wouldn't you be willing to commit it to tape? That way he can say that he was misquoted and what really happened was that he found out that she was having a threeway with Bigfoot and the Stanford Tree. Not to mention she was screwing around with Bucky Badger behind both of their backs.
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Jan 19, 2013 10:06:25 GMT -5
And that's the thing, either he's a liar who was in on it, or he's stupid-not for being duped, but for perpetuating/profiting off the lie afterward.
Liar or idiot, take your pick.
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Post by Waffel113 on Jan 19, 2013 10:50:42 GMT -5
I want to believe idiot.
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Post by darbus alan on Jan 19, 2013 11:09:56 GMT -5
And that's the thing, either he's a liar who was in on it, or he's stupid-not for being duped, but for perpetuating/profiting off the lie afterward. Liar or idiot, take your pick. He's a lying idiot either way. The difference is best case scenario he's a naive lying idiot. Worst case scenario, he's a scummy lying idiot.
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Post by Curt Hawkins Fan on Jan 19, 2013 12:06:14 GMT -5
What I don't understand is why everyone is shocked that Te'o is an asshole.
99% of football players are douchebags, especially ones that are good.
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Post by Red Impact on Jan 19, 2013 12:09:22 GMT -5
What I don't understand is why everyone is shocked that Te'o is an asshole. 99% of football players are douchebags, especially ones that are good. We got spoiled, the last "good guy" football player who got a ton of press actually is a good guy. Usually, the assholes aren't subtle.
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Jan 19, 2013 12:46:41 GMT -5
Imagine if voters woulda held being a freshman against Manziel and then gave old Manti the Heisman; and then ya got the double whammy of the fake dead gf and him playing like the fake dead gf against Alabama.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 19, 2013 13:41:34 GMT -5
Imagine if voters woulda held being a freshman against Manziel and then gave old Manti the Heisman; and then ya got the double whammy of the fake dead gf and him playing like the fake dead gf against Alabama. I almost wish that Te'o had won just so he would have had an emotional speech about his dead girlfriend and how she inspired him, that would make these latest developments even more awesome.
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Post by Orange on Jan 19, 2013 14:05:29 GMT -5
I still can't wrap my head around the fact that it "never crossed his mind" to go visit the love of his life in the hospital. There were 100 different things he could've said and he goes with that?
Every time I think about it, it gets more and more absurd.
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Post by Sparkybob on Jan 19, 2013 14:08:00 GMT -5
From the transcript
I mean I can't blame Te'o here, the black box is pretty sexy.
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Post by Mozenrath on Jan 19, 2013 14:10:04 GMT -5
Imagine if voters woulda held being a freshman against Manziel and then gave old Manti the Heisman; and then ya got the double whammy of the fake dead gf and him playing like the fake dead gf against Alabama. I almost wish that Te'o had won just so he would have had an emotional speech about his dead girlfriend and how she inspired him, that would make these latest developments even more awesome. That would have been amazing.
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Post by BRV on Jan 19, 2013 17:22:42 GMT -5
So not only is Manti Te'o a liar, now he has ESPN working PR for him because he gave them access to his first post-scandal interview, despite the fact that he wanted it off camera and only with legal representation present. But because he gave ESPN that first interview, they are now working overtime to spin this story in the "Manti Te'o was absolutely, positively a victim!" direction.
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Post by Rican on Jan 19, 2013 17:25:29 GMT -5
So not only is Manti Te'o a liar, now he has ESPN working PR for him because he gave them access to his first post-scandal interview, despite the fact that he wanted it off camera and only with legal representation present. But because he gave ESPN that first interview, they are now working overtime to spin this story in the "Manti Te'o was absolutely, positively a victim!" direction. I noticed that last night after they first started talking about the interview. I don't understand how people take ESPN seriously.
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Post by MGH on Jan 19, 2013 17:35:56 GMT -5
I've been watching college basketball all day so I've had to continue seeing the repeating quotes from Te'o scrolling across the screen. Thankfully for him, someone at ESPN was smart enough to not run the "it never crossed my mind" one anymore. But I seriously laugh every time I see, "when the facts come out people will see I could not have been a part of this hoax".
Every fact that has come out makes him seem MORE like he was. Te'o and the 4 non-ND defenders he still has left really don't want to lean on "facts" here. They aren't doing him any favors.
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Post by MGH on Jan 20, 2013 10:31:08 GMT -5
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Post by Confused Mark Wahlberg on Jan 20, 2013 10:49:42 GMT -5
Leslie Nielsen did a better job finding the Undertaker
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Post by Jedi-El of Tomorrow on Jan 20, 2013 11:00:10 GMT -5
Are we sure the Notre Dame investigators weren't the replacement refs?
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Post by BRV on Jan 20, 2013 11:08:22 GMT -5
So Notre Dame's investigation essentially amounted to them yelling, "Lennay!" out an open window, not getting a response and going, "Okay, case closed."
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