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Post by mcmahonfan85 on Jan 29, 2013 19:36:12 GMT -5
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Post by Sc on Jan 29, 2013 19:39:39 GMT -5
This, especially since she's not bad looking. The problem is more that she's out of her f***ing mind than her being older than him. Would you really bang someone that stalker-ish?
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Post by Glitch on Jan 29, 2013 20:42:31 GMT -5
Most likely I think this is how a good portion of teenage boys are. All boys at the age have hormones running wild and want to blow their load, but not all are gonna stick it in a woman if she were to try to mount him. After having sex, in some way their emotions are gonna kick in and it's not always gonna be about how bad ass they are.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2013 21:11:13 GMT -5
Wow, guys. Just wow. I am really f***ing disturbed at the attitudes prevalent in this thread.
Is it flamebaiting if you're calling somebody out for being a sketchy creep?
First of all, thank you to the people who are also saying how f***ed up some of these posts are.
Secondly: Jesus christ, we're talking about a KID. He's a pussy because he doesn't want to have sex? f*** that. It's WRONG in a lot of ways; legally only being one of them, he's doing well if his reaction to this librarian is "f***, better call the cops."
Putting him under the bus for "leading her on" is shit, too. He's sixteen. As many of you pointed out, crudely, the thought of banging an older woman as a sixteen year old is supremely hot. Special emphasis on "the thought". Fantasies are fantasies for a reason, kids. Those of you bragging that you'd have "bent her over the desk" have no real idea how you would have reacted unless you were in that exact position.
Lastly, this is illegal any way you slice it. She's being incredibly inappropriate (and creepy paired with irrational and unstable) and should absolutely be punished for what she did. He should never have tried to initiate anything sexual with her, but her job is to say no and report it. She failed.
Three years probation? That's it? For showing up at his house, sending him pictures of her breasts and who knows what kind of content via e-mail and texts?
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Post by xCompackx on Jan 29, 2013 21:44:49 GMT -5
Wow, guys. Just wow. I am really f***ing disturbed at the attitudes prevalent in this thread. Is it flamebaiting if you're calling somebody out for being a sketchy creep? First of all, thank you to the people who are also saying how f***ed up some of these posts are. Secondly: Jesus christ, we're talking about a KID. He's a pussy because he doesn't want to have sex? f*** that. It's WRONG in a lot of ways; legally only being one of them, he's doing well if his reaction to this librarian is "f***, better call the cops." Putting him under the bus for "leading her on" is s***, too. He's sixteen. As many of you pointed out, crudely, the thought of banging an older woman as a sixteen year old is supremely hot. Special emphasis on "the thought". Fantasies are fantasies for a reason, kids. Those of you bragging that you'd have "bent her over the desk" have no real idea how you would have reacted unless you were in that exact position. Lastly, this is illegal any way you slice it. She's being incredibly inappropriate (and creepy paired with irrational and unstable) and should absolutely be punished for what she did. He should never have tried to initiate anything sexual with her, but her job is to say no and report it. She failed. Three years probation? That's it? For showing up at his house, sending him pictures of her breasts and who knows what kind of content via e-mail and texts? I don't think anyone is saying that this isn't illegal or that it's not morally wrong (because it is), but being a 16 year old boy isn't easy and I think the posts here are more showing that not everyone would've taken the high road. Not trying to take sides here, but just my take.
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Post by SenorCrest on Jan 29, 2013 21:56:18 GMT -5
Wow, guys. Just wow. I am really f***ing disturbed at the attitudes prevalent in this thread. Is it flamebaiting if you're calling somebody out for being a sketchy creep? First of all, thank you to the people who are also saying how f***ed up some of these posts are. Secondly: Jesus christ, we're talking about a KID. He's a pussy because he doesn't want to have sex? f*** that. It's WRONG in a lot of ways; legally only being one of them, he's doing well if his reaction to this librarian is "f***, better call the cops." Putting him under the bus for "leading her on" is s***, too. He's sixteen. As many of you pointed out, crudely, the thought of banging an older woman as a sixteen year old is supremely hot. Special emphasis on "the thought". Fantasies are fantasies for a reason, kids. Those of you bragging that you'd have "bent her over the desk" have no real idea how you would have reacted unless you were in that exact position. Lastly, this is illegal any way you slice it. She's being incredibly inappropriate (and creepy paired with irrational and unstable) and should absolutely be punished for what she did. He should never have tried to initiate anything sexual with her, but her job is to say no and report it. She failed. Three years probation? That's it? For showing up at his house, sending him pictures of her breasts and who knows what kind of content via e-mail and texts? I don't think anyone is saying that this isn't illegal or that it's not morally wrong (because it is), but being a 16 year old boy isn't easy and I think the posts here are more showing that not everyone would've taken the high road. Not trying to take sides here, but just my take. I think the kid was down but she got too aggressive with him. Good call on him, who knows how she would have acted after he banged her.
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Post by Koda, Master Crunchyroller on Jan 29, 2013 22:00:07 GMT -5
Well the illegality of it depends on the state.....if she didn't send him pics of her breast and it was consensual.
Obviously since she sent him pics of her breast that's giving pornography to a minor, and because he clearly wasn't consenting, well there goes that too.
So yeah, she committed at least two crimes, or was in the act of, at least.
Not the kid's fault. Definitely her fault, though.
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Post by Mozenrath on Jan 29, 2013 22:18:38 GMT -5
"Sexual predator" keeps making me think of a Predator using the panel on his arm to download pornography.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2013 22:50:48 GMT -5
Wow, guys. Just wow. I am really f***ing disturbed at the attitudes prevalent in this thread. Is it flamebaiting if you're calling somebody out for being a sketchy creep? First of all, thank you to the people who are also saying how f***ed up some of these posts are. Secondly: Jesus christ, we're talking about a KID. He's a pussy because he doesn't want to have sex? f*** that. It's WRONG in a lot of ways; legally only being one of them, he's doing well if his reaction to this librarian is "f***, better call the cops." Putting him under the bus for "leading her on" is s***, too. He's sixteen. As many of you pointed out, crudely, the thought of banging an older woman as a sixteen year old is supremely hot. Special emphasis on "the thought". Fantasies are fantasies for a reason, kids. Those of you bragging that you'd have "bent her over the desk" have no real idea how you would have reacted unless you were in that exact position. Lastly, this is illegal any way you slice it. She's being incredibly inappropriate (and creepy paired with irrational and unstable) and should absolutely be punished for what she did. He should never have tried to initiate anything sexual with her, but her job is to say no and report it. She failed. Three years probation? That's it? For showing up at his house, sending him pictures of her breasts and who knows what kind of content via e-mail and texts? I don't think anyone is saying that this isn't illegal or that it's not morally wrong (because it is), but being a 16 year old boy isn't easy and I think the posts here are more showing that not everyone would've taken the high road. Not trying to take sides here, but just my take. I can appreciate your take on the situation, but I disagree. There's a difference between pointing out that other teens might have reacted differently (and I'd have to question the relevance of such statements) and what's going on here. I've seen people question the teen's manliness for not accepting her offers of sex. And, not only that, but using the librarian's attractiveness to bring further into question "what is wrong with this kid?" [By insinuating that he should have gone for it, it's suggesting that he chose incorrectly; therefore, the choice to go to the police was wrong.] So, the librarian is attractive, which somehow makes what she did less wrong. It's like some posters here can't understand why the victim might have wanted out of this situation. We blame his choices on being scared--implying that if he weren't intimidated by the situation, the only other choice for him would be to have sex with her. Not only are we questioning the kid on his choice to turn her in, but we're also blaming him for "teasing her" and "leading her on". This is victim blaming. This woman used her power of authority over him--even if she never specifically threatened him, there is an unspoken power difference here. She is (was) an employee of the school, and thus held higher power than him. Not to mention the age difference, which already causes a power/authority gap. She also attempted to guilt him. She sent him links showing him how much trouble she would get in, and urged him not to tell. She's not taking responsibility for her actions; she's placing the responsibility on him. [If you tell, here's what will happen to me, and it'll be your fault.] I understand that *some* of it may have been jokes. However, I honestly kind of doubt it. The fact is, it's kinda sad that comments are being made that have to be questioned, regardless. I also realize that not everybody in this thread agrees with the posters I essentially called out; in fact, there have been plenty of people who have already spoken up. The kid is not gay, or f***ed up, or just scared. He's not the one to be blamed here, he's the victim. This woman used her authority over him and took something way too far. Like I said before; I don't doubt that most young men have fantasies about being with an older woman. I don't doubt that many male adults truly believe that if they were in that situation as a 16 year old, they would have had sex with her without question. However, unless you have been in that situation yourself, you really don't know how you would have reacted, because nobody fantasizes about anything other than the perfect scenario.
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Post by xCompackx on Jan 29, 2013 23:18:47 GMT -5
I don't think anyone is saying that this isn't illegal or that it's not morally wrong (because it is), but being a 16 year old boy isn't easy and I think the posts here are more showing that not everyone would've taken the high road. Not trying to take sides here, but just my take. I can appreciate your take on the situation, but I disagree. There's a difference between pointing out that other teens might have reacted differently (and I'd have to question the relevance of such statements) and what's going on here. I've seen people question the teen's manliness for not accepting her offers of sex. And, not only that, but using the librarian's attractiveness to bring further into question "what is wrong with this kid?" [By insinuating that he should have gone for it, it's suggesting that he chose incorrectly; therefore, the choice to go to the police was wrong.] So, the librarian is attractive, which somehow makes what she did less wrong. It's like some posters here can't understand why the victim might have wanted out of this situation. We blame his choices on being scared--implying that if he weren't intimidated by the situation, the only other choice for him would be to have sex with her. Not only are we questioning the kid on his choice to turn her in, but we're also blaming him for "teasing her" and "leading her on". This is victim blaming. This woman used her power of authority over him--even if she never specifically threatened him, there is an unspoken power difference here. She is (was) an employee of the school, and thus held higher power than him. Not to mention the age difference, which already causes a power/authority gap. She also attempted to guilt him. She sent him links showing him how much trouble she would get in, and urged him not to tell. She's not taking responsibility for her actions; she's placing the responsibility on him. [If you tell, here's what will happen to me, and it'll be your fault.] I understand that *some* of it may have been jokes. However, I honestly kind of doubt it. The fact is, it's kinda sad that comments are being made that have to be questioned, regardless. I also realize that not everybody in this thread agrees with the posters I essentially called out; in fact, there have been plenty of people who have already spoken up. The kid is not gay, or f***ed up, or just scared. He's not the one to be blamed here, he's the victim. This woman used her authority over him and took something way too far. Like I said before; I don't doubt that most young men have fantasies about being with an older woman. I don't doubt that many male adults truly believe that if they were in that situation as a 16 year old, they would have had sex with her without question. However, unless you have been in that situation yourself, you really don't know how you would have reacted, because nobody fantasizes about anything other than the perfect scenario. Good points. I don't want to sound biased since I'm a guy as well, so I'll leave it at that lol.
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Post by Ishmeal Loves BBL Bayley on Jan 29, 2013 23:52:57 GMT -5
Its easy for me to come here and say "I woulda hit it." But I don't know if that's true. Sure, I remember being 16 and having hormones and being able to do the deed to anything the slightest bit sexual. If a female would have taken advances towards me, in that case, I know I would have been down for whatever.
But if an older woman threw me on the bed and asked "is this what you want?" I don't know what my response would be. My tendency is to be overtly masculine and say "hell yeah, baby!" But being so young and naive, I very well may have done the same as this kid here.
Bottom line: she's older, he's younger, its illegal.
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Post by crowwreak was WRONG on Jan 30, 2013 1:50:13 GMT -5
I'll admit as someone who wanted to rail my science teacher as a 16 year old, I wouldn't have taken the high road here. Doesn't make it right though. Who finds a 16-year-old kid attractive, seriously? Harry Potter fans, actually. Emma Watson was in her 20s by the time the series ended.
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Post by King Ghidorah on Jan 30, 2013 2:03:14 GMT -5
I don't think anyone is saying that this isn't illegal or that it's not morally wrong (because it is), but being a 16 year old boy isn't easy and I think the posts here are more showing that not everyone would've taken the high road. Not trying to take sides here, but just my take. I can appreciate your take on the situation, but I disagree. There's a difference between pointing out that other teens might have reacted differently (and I'd have to question the relevance of such statements) and what's going on here. I've seen people question the teen's manliness for not accepting her offers of sex. And, not only that, but using the librarian's attractiveness to bring further into question "what is wrong with this kid?" [By insinuating that he should have gone for it, it's suggesting that he chose incorrectly; therefore, the choice to go to the police was wrong.] So, the librarian is attractive, which somehow makes what she did less wrong. It's like some posters here can't understand why the victim might have wanted out of this situation. We blame his choices on being scared--implying that if he weren't intimidated by the situation, the only other choice for him would be to have sex with her. Not only are we questioning the kid on his choice to turn her in, but we're also blaming him for "teasing her" and "leading her on". This is victim blaming. This woman used her power of authority over him--even if she never specifically threatened him, there is an unspoken power difference here. She is (was) an employee of the school, and thus held higher power than him. Not to mention the age difference, which already causes a power/authority gap. She also attempted to guilt him. She sent him links showing him how much trouble she would get in, and urged him not to tell. She's not taking responsibility for her actions; she's placing the responsibility on him. [If you tell, here's what will happen to me, and it'll be your fault.] I understand that *some* of it may have been jokes. However, I honestly kind of doubt it. The fact is, it's kinda sad that comments are being made that have to be questioned, regardless. I also realize that not everybody in this thread agrees with the posters I essentially called out; in fact, there have been plenty of people who have already spoken up. The kid is not gay, or f***ed up, or just scared. He's not the one to be blamed here, he's the victim. This woman used her authority over him and took something way too far. Like I said before; I don't doubt that most young men have fantasies about being with an older woman. I don't doubt that many male adults truly believe that if they were in that situation as a 16 year old, they would have had sex with her without question. However, unless you have been in that situation yourself, you really don't know how you would have reacted, because nobody fantasizes about anything other than the perfect scenario. Well. You're a woman, you can only guess what a 16 year old male was thinking. Most of us have lived it, so we can empathize much better. That's all.
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Post by celticjobber on Jan 30, 2013 2:12:12 GMT -5
When she asked "is this what you want?", my 16 year old self would have said "YES!!!" Same here. I was never that lucky... All of the librarians at my school were like 80 years old anyway.
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Post by Mozenrath on Jan 30, 2013 2:16:06 GMT -5
I can appreciate your take on the situation, but I disagree. There's a difference between pointing out that other teens might have reacted differently (and I'd have to question the relevance of such statements) and what's going on here. I've seen people question the teen's manliness for not accepting her offers of sex. And, not only that, but using the librarian's attractiveness to bring further into question "what is wrong with this kid?" [By insinuating that he should have gone for it, it's suggesting that he chose incorrectly; therefore, the choice to go to the police was wrong.] So, the librarian is attractive, which somehow makes what she did less wrong. It's like some posters here can't understand why the victim might have wanted out of this situation. We blame his choices on being scared--implying that if he weren't intimidated by the situation, the only other choice for him would be to have sex with her. Not only are we questioning the kid on his choice to turn her in, but we're also blaming him for "teasing her" and "leading her on". This is victim blaming. This woman used her power of authority over him--even if she never specifically threatened him, there is an unspoken power difference here. She is (was) an employee of the school, and thus held higher power than him. Not to mention the age difference, which already causes a power/authority gap. She also attempted to guilt him. She sent him links showing him how much trouble she would get in, and urged him not to tell. She's not taking responsibility for her actions; she's placing the responsibility on him. [If you tell, here's what will happen to me, and it'll be your fault.] I understand that *some* of it may have been jokes. However, I honestly kind of doubt it. The fact is, it's kinda sad that comments are being made that have to be questioned, regardless. I also realize that not everybody in this thread agrees with the posters I essentially called out; in fact, there have been plenty of people who have already spoken up. The kid is not gay, or f***ed up, or just scared. He's not the one to be blamed here, he's the victim. This woman used her authority over him and took something way too far. Like I said before; I don't doubt that most young men have fantasies about being with an older woman. I don't doubt that many male adults truly believe that if they were in that situation as a 16 year old, they would have had sex with her without question. However, unless you have been in that situation yourself, you really don't know how you would have reacted, because nobody fantasizes about anything other than the perfect scenario. Well. You're a woman, you can only guess what a 16 year old male was thinking. Most of us have lived it, so we can empathize much better. That's all. That's the thing, though. Many people in the thread have had a lack of empathy for him because, as a 16 year old, he got pulled into an adult situation he could not cope with on his own. For them, though, in their 20s or higher, it's just a porno and the kid tore up the golden ticket. That isn't empathy, it's projecting.
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Post by Toxik916 on Jan 30, 2013 2:29:46 GMT -5
Damn he should have hit it. I'm not buying this "kid" being a victim either, the only person I feel bad for is the cute librarian. Her reputation is ruined and she lost her job. What she did was highly illegal and I do endorse the punishment even though it may slightly contradict what I said about feeling sorry for her for losing her job.
It's not like she Sandusky'd the guy.
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Post by S-Chrome on Jan 30, 2013 2:30:55 GMT -5
I think we're all aware of the double standards that come into play here when the aggressor is a woman and the alleged victim is a teenage boy. I could actually see the guy being flustered and balk out at the last minute. Personally, I've backed out of situations that would've led to sexual activity when I was younger and the girls in question were of my age group due to testosterone leaving my person at the inopportune time.
However, present me would've slapped the dogshit out of past me and told him to get his.
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Post by "I'm Batman..." on Jan 30, 2013 2:33:06 GMT -5
How did they start texting?
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Post by King Ghidorah on Jan 30, 2013 2:35:52 GMT -5
Damn he should have hit it. I'm not buying this "kid" being a victim either, the only person I feel bad for is the cute librarian. Her reputation is ruined and she lost her job. What she did was highly illegal and I do endorse the punishment even though it may slightly contradict what I said about feeling sorry for her for losing her job. It's not like she Sandusky'd the guy. This, the cat is 16. He's not a baby. And when you read things like "Wanted to see how far I could go" and "Did it for fun" its hard to paint him as someone who was taken advantage of. He knew what he was doing, but he linked out when s*** got real. Probably for the best cause the chick is crazy.
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Post by kidglov3s on Jan 30, 2013 8:03:25 GMT -5
Where I'm seeing a lack of empathy is in the librarian. You're in your 30s, you work at the school, and start engaging in sexual stuff with students? That's so incredibly inappropriate, and not normal or healthy. The responses from the kid's perspective of how favored he was or something don't take into account how twisted all of this is from her end.
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