Teen thwarts the attempts of a sexual predator

[Baldobomb-22-OH-MAN!!!]

Jan 29, 2013 21:11:13 GMT -5 @dobedobedo said:

Wow, guys. Just wow. I am really f***ing disturbed at the attitudes prevalent in this thread.

Is it flamebaiting if you're calling somebody out for being a sketchy creep?

First of all, thank you to the people who are also saying how f***ed up some of these posts are.

Secondly: Jesus christ, we're talking about a KID. He's a pussy because he doesn't want to have sex? f*** that. It's WRONG in a lot of ways; legally only being one of them, he's doing well if his reaction to this librarian is "f***, better call the cops."

Putting him under the bus for "leading her on" is s***, too. He's sixteen. As many of you pointed out, crudely, the thought of banging an older woman as a sixteen year old is supremely hot. Special emphasis on "the thought". Fantasies are fantasies for a reason, kids. Those of you bragging that you'd have "bent her over the desk" have no real idea how you would have reacted unless you were in that exact position.

Lastly, this is illegal any way you slice it. She's being incredibly inappropriate (and creepy paired with irrational and unstable) and should absolutely be punished for what she did. He should never have tried to initiate anything sexual with her, but her job is to say no and report it. She failed.

Three years probation? That's it? For showing up at his house, sending him pictures of her breasts and who knows what kind of content via e-mail and texts?

thank you. I find the attitude creepy as well. I have to say as a 16 year old I found adults super-intimidating and was only interested in girls my own age. I can't imagine what I'd do in that position, but I'd probably be terrified.

[SsnakeBite, the No1 Frenchman]

Jan 29, 2013 21:11:13 GMT -5 @dobedobedo said:

Wow, guys. Just wow. I am really f***ing disturbed at the attitudes prevalent in this thread.

Is it flamebaiting if you're calling somebody out for being a sketchy creep?

First of all, thank you to the people who are also saying how f***ed up some of these posts are.

Secondly: Jesus christ, we're talking about a KID. He's a pussy because he doesn't want to have sex? f*** that. It's WRONG in a lot of ways; legally only being one of them, he's doing well if his reaction to this librarian is "f***, better call the cops."

Putting him under the bus for "leading her on" is s***, too. He's sixteen. As many of you pointed out, crudely, the thought of banging an older woman as a sixteen year old is supremely hot. Special emphasis on "the thought". Fantasies are fantasies for a reason, kids. Those of you bragging that you'd have "bent her over the desk" have no real idea how you would have reacted unless you were in that exact position.

Lastly, this is illegal any way you slice it. She's being incredibly inappropriate (and creepy paired with irrational and unstable) and should absolutely be punished for what she did. He should never have tried to initiate anything sexual with her, but her job is to say no and report it. She failed.

Three years probation? That's it? For showing up at his house, sending him pictures of her breasts and who knows what kind of content via e-mail and texts?

Yeah, at first I felt it was a few joking posts but now I'm getting very creeped out by the general "it's not rape if it's female-on-male" sentiment that seems to be emanating from this thread, and the idea that there most be something wrong with a kid who's trying to be responsible and realize when he's taken things too far, especially when the adult was being far less responsible.

It's seriously the same kind of discourse as calling a female rape victim a slut if she was wearing a mini-skirt because that means she was "clearly asking for it".

Jan 30, 2013 2:29:46 GMT -5 Toxik916 said:

Damn he should have hit it. I'm not buying this "kid" being a victim either, the only person I feel bad for is the cute librarian. Her reputation is ruined and she lost her job. What she did was highly illegal and I do endorse the punishment even though it may slightly contradict what I said about feeling sorry for her for losing her job.

It's not like she Sandusky'd the guy.

She started it, she brought this on herself. Also, she's supposed to be the adult who's capable of controlling herself here.

Jan 30, 2013 2:35:52 GMT -5 King Ghidorah said:

This, the cat is 16. He's not a baby. And when you read things like "Wanted to see how far I could go" and "Did it for fun" its hard to paint him as someone who was taken advantage of. He knew what he was doing, but he linked out when s*** got real. Probably for the best cause the chick is crazy.

The other cat is in her 30s, she's even less of a baby and she has experience on her side and should know better. The kid has probably never been in a serious relationship before and certainly not a sexual one.

I'm not saying he wasn't being stupid but when kids are being stupid, you don't play along with their stupidity. The fact that he was the one who had to spot it is simply baffling.


Seriously people, this "blaming the victim" crap needs to stop. It's because of attitudes like this that so many sexual abuse victims don't dare to speak up, it's this kind of attitude that makes people like the Steubenville Rape Crew feel they're in the right.

[Dr. T is an alien]

Jan 29, 2013 15:55:44 GMT -5 Hit Girl said:

When she asked "is this what you want?", my 16 year old self would have said "YES!!!"

As would have my 16 year old self.

I do have to question why a 33 year old would respond that strongly to a 16 flirting with her, especially since she did not look as though such compliments would be completely foreign to her (in other words, I find her physically attractive, though she is clearly not right in the head).

[King Ghidorah]

She's not even being required to register as a sex offender

[kingoftheindies]

At first my reaction was good for the kid, but reading it I kind of changed. Not feeling bad for the librarian, but feeling bad that the kid let him take it that far. Let's face it guys, especially that young, sometimes let the hormones get the best of them. Who knows how much could have been avoided had he just not started everything for fun? Now maybe there is more to the story there. I'm guessing it almost got to stocking.

But that can't be easy. I had an extremely attractive spanish teacher in high school and after I turned 21 I saw her at the bar so I decided to go over and talk to her as I hadn't seen her in a few years. She started flirting a bit with me, and though I was 21 and she was not much older than me (I think she was 28 when I had her in class) I still got nervous as hell and backed out quickly.

[Ben Wyatt]

The double standards in this thread and appearantly, in the courst system, are absolutely disgusting.

[Deleted]

What I'm seeing from this situation is a 16 year old boy's fantasy about his hot librarian going wrong.

A lot of you are saying that as 16 year olds you would have jumped at this.. and I believe you. But the thing is.. this boy clearly thought the same thing.

I don't doubt at all that this started because he is a 16 year old boy with hormones and thought that banging the librarian would be the epitome of hot. Like I mentioned before, fantasy and real life are not the same thing. Hell, he was probably thrilled at first when it seemed like she was interested in him.

But these fantasies are hot because they are taboo. Deep down, he knows it's wrong, and it's getting out of hand.

And, like I also mentioned before, she's using her authority over him and also trying to guilt him into remaining quiet.

He might have made bad choices at the beginning, but she, as the adult here, should have never let it get off the ground. Had she done her job, things would have gone very differently here.

And yes, most of what is going on here in this thread is victim blaming, and an extreme double standard.

[Toxik916]

I just don't think "victim" is the proper term for the guy in this case. The librarian was being unethical, but I fail to see how she caused any ounce of harm to the guy.

[Wolf Hurricane]

Jan 30, 2013 14:42:43 GMT -5 Toxik916 said:

I just don't think "victim" is the proper term for the guy in this case. The librarian was being unethical, but I fail to see how she caused any ounce of harm to the guy.

But again, if you were to reverse the sexes in this situation, would you feel the same way?

It's pretty open and shut, if you ask me. She's an adult, he's a kid. She solicited a kid, so she committed a crime - a sex crime, and she should've been registered. Case closed.

[Mozenrath]

Jan 30, 2013 14:42:43 GMT -5 Toxik916 said:

I just don't think "victim" is the proper term for the guy in this case. The librarian was being unethical, but I fail to see how she caused any ounce of harm to the guy.

What, does he just call the cops all the time, when things are going just fine in his life?

"Hey guys, need anything from the store down at the precinct?"

[Toxik916]

Jan 30, 2013 15:01:22 GMT -5 Wolf Hurricane said:

Jan 30, 2013 14:42:43 GMT -5 Toxik916 said:

I just don't think "victim" is the proper term for the guy in this case. The librarian was being unethical, but I fail to see how she caused any ounce of harm to the guy.

But again, if you were to reverse the sexes in this situation, would you feel the same way?

It's pretty open and shut, if you ask me. She's an adult, he's a kid. She solicited a kid, so she committed a crime - a sex crime, and she should've been registered. Case closed.

My whole thing with this is that by the time you're 16 you pretty much have no innocence to be robbed of. Had a 16 year old girl said the same thing as the guy in this situation about wanting to see "how far she could go and doing it for fun" I would feel the same way.

The "kid" manipulated this lady anyway you slice it and when his ruse quit being a game and became real he didn't know how to react.

[SsnakeBite, the No1 Frenchman]

Jan 30, 2013 14:42:43 GMT -5 Toxik916 said:

I just don't think "victim" is the proper term for the guy in this case. The librarian was being unethical, but I fail to see how she caused any ounce of harm to the guy.

She jumped him, tried to silence him and kept it going well after he made it clear he didn't want anything to do with her anymore. Even assuming he'd been consenting, it's still statutory rape! Yeah, the kid is dumb for going along with it "for fun", but teens do dumb things all the time, especially when their genitals are involved because they're just discovering them and are curious about it. She's an adult, she knows better, she's supposed to be the responsible one. She's the one who should have stopped this, yet she decided to take advantage of situation.

I mean seriously, if a thirty-something man so much as looked at a 16-years-old girl, people would immediately be branding him as a perv, but since the genders are reversed, suddenly it's okay?! This double standard makes me want to puke. Again, this is the kind of thinking that makes people think rape is okay because the victim "was asking for it". It's because of reasonings like that that rapists get away with what they do.

[Mozenrath]

I could maybe see her biting off more than she could chew with the kid(yes, a kid) if things had ended early on. Maybe.

After time, though, the wheels start to fall off of that excuse. She ups the aggression with it, even going so far as to try to guilt trip him into not turning her in, sending him possible legal repercussions for her. She wanted him silent while she worked her magic.

The dismissive attitude held towards him and his complaint is the same reason she got off so light here, and why she has possibly done this before, or will again. "What are you, a fruit, kid? Take it and thank the lady."

[Koda, Master Crunchyroller]

Jan 30, 2013 16:07:53 GMT -5 SsnakeBite, the No1 Frenchman said:

Jan 30, 2013 14:42:43 GMT -5 Toxik916 said:

I just don't think "victim" is the proper term for the guy in this case. The librarian was being unethical, but I fail to see how she caused any ounce of harm to the guy.

She jumped him, tried to silence him and kept it going well after he made it clear he didn't want anything to do with her anymore. Even assuming he'd been consenting, it's still statutory rape! Yeah, the kid is dumb for going along with it "for fun", but teens do dumb things all the time, especially when their genitals are involved because they're just discovering them and are curious about it. She's an adult, she knows better, she's supposed to be the responsible one. She's the one who should have stopped this, yet she decided to take advantage of situation.

I mean seriously, if a thirty-something man so much as looked at a 16-years-old girl, people would immediately be branding him as a perv, but since the genders are reversed, suddenly it's okay?! This double standard makes me want to puke. Again, this is the kind of thinking that makes people think rape is okay because the victim "was asking for it". It's because of reasonings like that that rapists get away with what they do.

Actually, depending on the state, if a 16 year old is consenting it is NOT statutory rape.

For example, here in Oklahoma 16 is the age of consent, meaning if a 16 is consenting, have at it.

[Mozenrath]

Jan 30, 2013 16:39:16 GMT -5 Koda, Master Crunchyroller said:

Jan 30, 2013 16:07:53 GMT -5 SsnakeBite, the No1 Frenchman said:

She jumped him, tried to silence him and kept it going well after he made it clear he didn't want anything to do with her anymore. Even assuming he'd been consenting, it's still statutory rape! Yeah, the kid is dumb for going along with it "for fun", but teens do dumb things all the time, especially when their genitals are involved because they're just discovering them and are curious about it. She's an adult, she knows better, she's supposed to be the responsible one. She's the one who should have stopped this, yet she decided to take advantage of situation.

I mean seriously, if a thirty-something man so much as looked at a 16-years-old girl, people would immediately be branding him as a perv, but since the genders are reversed, suddenly it's okay?! This double standard makes me want to puke. Again, this is the kind of thinking that makes people think rape is okay because the victim "was asking for it". It's because of reasonings like that that rapists get away with what they do.

Actually, depending on the state, if a 16 year old is consenting it is NOT statutory rape.

For example, here in Oklahoma 16 is the age of consent, meaning if a 16 is consenting, have at it.

That said, even then, there are often rules that tie into other factors, such as age difference, if one is in a position of authority over the other, etc.

[Koda, Master Crunchyroller]

Jan 30, 2013 16:47:05 GMT -5 Mozenrath said:

Jan 30, 2013 16:39:16 GMT -5 Koda, Master Crunchyroller said:

Actually, depending on the state, if a 16 year old is consenting it is NOT statutory rape.

For example, here in Oklahoma 16 is the age of consent, meaning if a 16 is consenting, have at it.

That said, even then, there are often rules that tie into other factors, such as age difference, if one is in a position of authority over the other, etc.

Correct. Which in this case even if he consented and they got it on, she'd still be in trouble for being school faculty.

[SsnakeBite, the No1 Frenchman]

Jan 30, 2013 16:39:16 GMT -5 Koda, Master Crunchyroller said:

Jan 30, 2013 16:07:53 GMT -5 SsnakeBite, the No1 Frenchman said:

She jumped him, tried to silence him and kept it going well after he made it clear he didn't want anything to do with her anymore. Even assuming he'd been consenting, it's still statutory rape! Yeah, the kid is dumb for going along with it "for fun", but teens do dumb things all the time, especially when their genitals are involved because they're just discovering them and are curious about it. She's an adult, she knows better, she's supposed to be the responsible one. She's the one who should have stopped this, yet she decided to take advantage of situation.

I mean seriously, if a thirty-something man so much as looked at a 16-years-old girl, people would immediately be branding him as a perv, but since the genders are reversed, suddenly it's okay?! This double standard makes me want to puke. Again, this is the kind of thinking that makes people think rape is okay because the victim "was asking for it". It's because of reasonings like that that rapists get away with what they do.

Actually, depending on the state, if a 16 year old is consenting it is NOT statutory rape.

For example, here in Oklahoma 16 is the age of consent, meaning if a 16 is consenting, have at it.

It took place in New York and the age of consent there is 17 and a 30 years-old person having sex with a 16-years-old is rape in the third degree.

She's a pedo, plain and simple. And letting her get away with it now would only be giving her permission to do it again.

[Koda, Master Crunchyroller]

Jan 30, 2013 16:53:29 GMT -5 SsnakeBite, the No1 Frenchman said:

Jan 30, 2013 16:39:16 GMT -5 Koda, Master Crunchyroller said:

Actually, depending on the state, if a 16 year old is consenting it is NOT statutory rape.

For example, here in Oklahoma 16 is the age of consent, meaning if a 16 is consenting, have at it.

It took place in New York and the age of consent there is 17 and a 30 years-old person having sex with a 16-years-old is rape in the third degree.

She's a pedo, plain and simple. And letting her get away with it now would only be giving her permission to do it again.

She's not a pedo. Pedophiles only go after kids 12 and younger. If it is an adult going after a teen between 15 and 19 it is ephebophilia.

[Johnny B. Decent]

Jan 30, 2013 16:07:53 GMT -5 SsnakeBite, the No1 Frenchman said:

I mean seriously, if a thirty-something man so much as looked at a 16-years-old girl, people would immediately be branding him as a perv, but since the genders are reversed, suddenly it's okay?! This double standard makes me want to puke. Again, this is the kind of thinking that makes people think rape is okay because the victim "was asking for it". It's because of reasonings like that that rapists get away with what they do.

Bingo.

[SsnakeBite, the No1 Frenchman]

Jan 30, 2013 16:59:25 GMT -5 Koda, Master Crunchyroller said:

Jan 30, 2013 16:53:29 GMT -5 SsnakeBite, the No1 Frenchman said:

It took place in New York and the age of consent there is 17 and a 30 years-old person having sex with a 16-years-old is rape in the third degree.

She's a pedo, plain and simple. And letting her get away with it now would only be giving her permission to do it again.

She's not a pedo. Pedophiles only go after kids 12 and younger. If it is an adult going after a teen between 15 and 19 it is ephebophilia.

Same difference, she still wants to f*** someone half her age who is barely more emotionally mature than a child. She's still okay with committing boy-rape.

I'm sorry guys but I really don't see how anyone can defend this. It's an adult abusing a teenager, and again she tried to force herself onto him and tried to guilt him into staying silent. It's sick, it's wrong and it's illegal, she should go to jail and/or a mental asylum and the only reason she's not required to be on a sex offenders list is that she doesn't have a cock.