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Post by SsnakeBite, the No1 Frenchman on Feb 2, 2013 19:46:21 GMT -5
for the sake of argument pretend the boy was also 30 years old. If we hold the guy accountable for his own actions and not just forgive all his sins because SHUCKS HE'S ONLY SIXTEEN it's easy to say that the 30 year old guy was leading this librarian on, hardcore. Except the boy isn't 30. He is in fact barely above half that. That's the whole problem. That he ISN'T 30. If he were, it would have been appropriate and legal for the two of them to get romantically involved. What you are talking about is a fictitious scenario unrelated to what actually happened. We might as well ask what would happen if they were both wielding lightsabers and were cats. And apparently this needs to be said again: yes, the kid was dumb, yes he is partly at fault, but the fact is, he is a teenager with no experience in how love and sexual relationships work, whereas she is a grown adult and knows better so yes, SHE is the most at fault. And again, there's also the fact that in that state the age of consent is at 17, so what she did was a crime, so again, she is at fault for doing something she knew to be both morally and legally wrong. Not to mention, as you said yourself, she pleaded guilty, so no, that's not "allegedly" anymore as she admitted to being guilty of what she was accused of. Your argument, on the other hand, rests entirely on imaginary situations and speculations. You say he was leading her on and being cruel, but according to the story she recognized was true, he wanted to stop it and she wouldn't let go. if this guy sent penis pics to your 16-year-old sister would you NOT beat his greasy ass half to death, or would you say SHUCKS HE'S ONLY SIXTEEN THE WEE BABY CAN'T DO WROOONGG Also, if a bunch of 16-year-old kids raped that 30 year old teacher when her rendezvous with the kid turned ugly (imagine the boy sent the breast pics to his horndog teen friends, and they all had a mob-rule idea to force the librarian into group sex using the incriminating emails/sexts as blackmail) is the teacher still at fault? Anyone of you self-righteous double-standard gender apologists wanna take a crack at that one? I'm sorry but what? What that have to do with anything? How is any of this connected to the reality of the events that transpired? When did I say that teenagers can do no wrong? When did I ever claim rape was okay if it was committed by a minor? Also, how am I a double-standard apologist for condemning the double standard of people insulting the kid for not having sex with her whereas people would get outraged if the genders were reversed (and I know from past experiences they would), and a man in her situation would definitely have been put on a sex offenders list? Seriously man, you're ignoring the actual events and talking about a completely made up story here.
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Post by aka Cthulhu on Feb 2, 2013 22:22:14 GMT -5
Keep it down, mods are trying to nap.
Seriously, everyone take a deep breath and cool down. It's understandable to get heated with such a sensitive issue, but take it easy guys.
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Post by King Ghidorah on Feb 2, 2013 22:57:30 GMT -5
I'm sorry. But what troll rogue typed made me laugh so hard I almost threw up.
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Post by mcmahonfan85 on Feb 2, 2013 23:02:27 GMT -5
Keep it down, mods are trying to nap.
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Feb 2, 2013 23:45:05 GMT -5
Were ya drunk with that one trollrogue? Cuz, the hell?
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Post by Confused Mark Wahlberg on Feb 3, 2013 8:30:07 GMT -5
Sure, the librarian is a child predator. Whoop-dee-doo,
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Post by Square on Feb 3, 2013 9:00:47 GMT -5
HIS NAME IS TROLLROGUE!!!!
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Post by "Gentleman" AJ Powell on Feb 3, 2013 9:08:26 GMT -5
HIS NAME IS TROLLROGUE!!!! Pssh, names don't mean anything! I mean, you're called Square, but word on the street is, you've only got THREE corners!
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Post by King Ghidorah on Feb 3, 2013 9:23:34 GMT -5
HIS NAME IS TROLLROGUE!!!! Pssh, names don't mean anything! I mean, you're called Square, but word on the street is, you've only got THREE corners! Not to mention he's super cool.
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Post by Danimal on Feb 3, 2013 13:02:35 GMT -5
That is ridiculous. A 16yr old is definitely too young for me and I wouldn't mess around with one. That said, I've seen plenty of 16yr olds that are DAMN. Wasn't long ago in human history that 16 was considered marrying age and they went into puberty significantly later than they do now. Many females are far into development now at 16 and are quite "womanly". There is nothing pedo about it. Pedos like childish attributes. The librarian was wrong for what she did but she isn't a pedo. Go back through my post and find where I said "pedo." You said it a number of times. I just asked who finds a 16-year-old attractive, and expressed relief that a 30-year-old who abused her position of authority was caught and sentenced. For the record, I'm 31. I have yet to see one 16-year-old boy who I would find sexually appealing. They are not mature, they are not men yet, and they are not only off-limits in the sense of "oh, I really wish I could, but it's illegal", they are off-limits in the sense of "I don't even understand why you would WANT to." They're so YOUNG. Sorry if I was being defensive but I have some trouble buying that you were JUST asking a question. Maybe you weren't trying to but you came off as judgmental and I doubt I was the only one that saw an implication that if you found a 16yr old attractive there must be something wrong with you. As far as the average guy goes we like a pretty face, nice legs, boobs, butt, and figure according to taste. Said attributes could be on a teen or cougar and we'll find her attractive. Just that in the case of a teen you have to recognize that it's off limits. As far as the librarian goes I don't find her attraction off-putting, hell I know perfectly normal male and female high school teachers that admitted student attraction, thing is they never did anything about it. The librarian's problems are poor judgment and lack of impulse control.
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Post by Koda, Master Crunchyroller on Feb 3, 2013 14:40:17 GMT -5
That is ridiculous. A 16yr old is definitely too young for me and I wouldn't mess around with one. That said, I've seen plenty of 16yr olds that are DAMN. Wasn't long ago in human history that 16 was considered marrying age and they went into puberty significantly later than they do now. Many females are far into development now at 16 and are quite "womanly". There is nothing pedo about it. Pedos like childish attributes. The librarian was wrong for what she did but she isn't a pedo. Go back through my post and find where I said "pedo." You said it a number of times. I just asked who finds a 16-year-old attractive, and expressed relief that a 30-year-old who abused her position of authority was caught and sentenced. For the record, I'm 31. I have yet to see one 16-year-old boy who I would find sexually appealing. They are not mature, they are not men yet, and they are not only off-limits in the sense of "oh, I really wish I could, but it's illegal", they are off-limits in the sense of "I don't even understand why you would WANT to." They're so YOUNG. Well, not that I share this opinion, but Justin Bieber was considered by the mainstream to be a hot piece of ass when he was 16, and it wasn't unheard of to see women in their 30s or higher to be attracted to him then as well. Same with Taylor Lautner. He was 16 when he started doing the Twilight films and of course we should all know by now how many women of various ages swooned over him. Basically I guess for some reason society seems it "acceptable" for older women to lust over 16 year old guys as long as the guys are celebrities.......
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Post by Confused Mark Wahlberg on Feb 3, 2013 14:45:32 GMT -5
Teen anything is an instant dick deflator. But that's just me.
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Post by Tarik Dee on Feb 3, 2013 15:05:59 GMT -5
Pssh, names don't mean anything! I mean, you're called Square, but word on the street is, you've only got THREE corners! Not to mention he's super cool. You could say he's Hip...
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Post by Square on Feb 3, 2013 16:33:55 GMT -5
Not to mention he's super cool. You could say he's Hip... HAHAHAHHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA OH GOD SUCH AN ORIGINAL JOKE. HILARIOUS! HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA (I'm being sarcastic!)
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Post by Mozenrath on Feb 3, 2013 16:50:17 GMT -5
I hear that teens make Square Soft.
T-That's terrible, I'm sorry.
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Post by Square on Feb 3, 2013 16:52:59 GMT -5
I hear that teens make Square Soft. T-That's terrible, I'm sorry. ...Is that a comment about my penis?! KEEP YOUR DIRTY MIND AWAY FROM PENIS!
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Post by Piccolo on Feb 3, 2013 23:55:24 GMT -5
Sorry if I was being defensive but I have some trouble buying that you were JUST asking a question. Maybe you weren't trying to but you came off as judgmental and I doubt I was the only one that saw an implication that if you found a 16yr old attractive there must be something wrong with you. As far as the average guy goes we like a pretty face, nice legs, boobs, butt, and figure according to taste. Said attributes could be on a teen or cougar and we'll find her attractive. Just that in the case of a teen you have to recognize that it's off limits. As far as the librarian goes I don't find her attraction off-putting, hell I know perfectly normal male and female high school teachers that admitted student attraction, thing is they never did anything about it. The librarian's problems are poor judgment and lack of impulse control. No, I wasn't just asking a question, nor was I saying in the post you're responding to that I was just asking a question. I was simply not calling her a pedophile, which is the strawman you set up in your first response. Instead, I was asking a rhetorical question meant to indicate that I DO NOT understand a 30-year-old woman finding a 16-year-old boy sexually appealing. Finding a 16-year-old cute in the way that kids and teens are cute, sure. (Kind of like young animals finding their feet... fawns kind of awkwardly tumbling around, that sort of thing.) Finding a fictional character in a romance story to be swoonworthy (as someone suggests about the kid from Twilight), sure, in the context of imagining that romance for your adolescent former self. Actually wanting to have sex with a 16-year-old male? No. I don't understand it. It makes no sense to me. They are not attractive. If you feel judged by my inability to understand that, that's something I can't control. I'm not going to lie and say that I understand those feelings when I don't.
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