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Post by Toxik916 on Feb 4, 2013 16:15:23 GMT -5
I honestly don't give a f*** about another person's level of interest is in things I'm passionate about. Elitism is retarded especially when it comes to nerdy s***. I think there's a difference between elitism and expecting to be able to take people at their word in terms of their passions and interests. Like I really enjoy Planet of the Apes, and would love to meet someone who enjoys it on the level that I do. If someone was all yeah I love Planet of the Apes but then I find hasn't watched the movies and when they do they're like why are they protesting like hippies this is boring I'd be frustrated. I can definitely see your point, but at the same time you can't expect someone to appreciate something on the same level as you do especially if you're a complete fanatic about it. When it comes to my interests the most I expect someone to do is to not demean me for them. Granted I'm not what I would consider a nerd so maybe it's difficult liking things that people generally make fun of. The only thing that I really get shit for liking is wrestling.
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Post by kidglov3s on Feb 4, 2013 16:17:16 GMT -5
I think there's a difference between elitism and expecting to be able to take people at their word in terms of their passions and interests. Like I really enjoy Planet of the Apes, and would love to meet someone who enjoys it on the level that I do. If someone was all yeah I love Planet of the Apes but then I find hasn't watched the movies and when they do they're like why are they protesting like hippies this is boring I'd be frustrated. I can definitely see your point, but at the same time you can't expect someone to appreciate something on the same level as you do especially if you're a complete fanatic about it. When it comes to my interests the most I expect someone to do is to not demean me for them. Granted I'm not what I would consider a nerd so maybe it's difficult liking things that people generally make fun of. The only thing that I really get s*** for liking is wrestling. I don't expect anything beyond people being honest. If you don't love something don't say that you love it. If you're not familiar with something don't pretend that you are. If something bores you don't say it's awesome. That's the problem I guess, people feel they're expected to be into these things and start fibbing. Again, for me this is all on the level of mild annoyance at worst anyway. And sometimes it can be cute or charming for someone to feign passion in something, even if that might be the exception.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 4, 2013 16:17:28 GMT -5
Just to clarify terms here - there's a difference between "fake geeks" and "people who just aren't OBSESSED with something" The first flat out lie about how much they like something to either be a part of the group or trick someone for some reason. The second are just "casual fans" who don't care to know every intimate detail about a team/comic/movie etc. If you're talking about the second group, then I don't consider them "fake geeks" - they're just people who kinda like something. The first group is who I think of when I see/hear the words "fake geek" and accordingly I don't care for them. The problem is that many geeks often consider the second group to be the first group. Those geeks aren't real geeks though - they are angry geeks hating on casual geeks while the real geeks are focusing on whatever they geek out about.
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Post by JDviant on Feb 4, 2013 16:18:20 GMT -5
Why would someone fake being a giant fox? Why would a giant fox fake being Captain America? Slightly-off continuity?
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Post by ToyfareMark on Feb 4, 2013 16:21:44 GMT -5
This has nothing to with people biting the heads off live chickens.
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Post by Allie Kitsune on Feb 4, 2013 16:21:55 GMT -5
Why would a giant fox fake being Captain America? Slightly-off continuity? OK, so there's the whole shield thing, yeah... We'll get that figured out. Anybody want to help with that?
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Post by BayleyTiffyCodyCenaJudyHopps on Feb 4, 2013 16:29:37 GMT -5
Just to clarify terms here - there's a difference between "fake geeks" and "people who just aren't OBSESSED with something" The first flat out lie about how much they like something to either be a part of the group or trick someone for some reason. The second are just "casual fans" who don't care to know every intimate detail about a team/comic/movie etc. If you're talking about the second group, then I don't consider them "fake geeks" - they're just people who kinda like something. The first group is who I think of when I see/hear the words "fake geek" and accordingly I don't care for them. The problem is that many geeks often consider the second group to be the first group. Bingo. Most casual fans will usually stay with it, or at least not dismiss it as a phase afterwards.
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Post by milkomania on Feb 4, 2013 16:53:55 GMT -5
First off, there's this concept that there's no such thing as a casual fan anymore. We're so polarized thanks to internet. For example, I am a casual fan of UFC. Think I could find someone else like that? Nope. "Real" fans are lunks who lift weights all day (only their arms) drink beer and tear into martial artists who are 1000 times more talented than they'll ever be. I don't like those people.
On the other hand, rich preppy girls who wear big thick glasses as a fashion piece make me want to punch them. I had to wear those type of glasses as a kid because it was the only one my family could afford. These girls are trying to be "ironically nerdy" and are usually the first ones to rip on someone for not wearing designer duds. The difference between them and me has always been money. Because when the trends change, rich people can move on. Poor people can't.
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Post by Glitch on Feb 4, 2013 17:23:16 GMT -5
This depends on exactly who you are referring to(which you guys kind of covered already). My giant peeve is all these models,playmates and celebrities trying to milk the fandom. Although I find it funny sometimes because you got hot cosplayers who are actual geeks. I'll take my Yaya Han over Olivia Mun any day. As for the "fake geek girls", I have not really run into any of them. on the flip side, I also have not run into a lot of girls all of a sudden being quizzed to see if they are truly geeks. I don't know how big this problem is. I hear a bunch of girls complain about this but at the same time I hear people(both male and female say they don't see it) Personally, I think this is soemthing being made into a much bigger issue than it is because of the internet.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 4, 2013 18:07:56 GMT -5
But more to the original point of the thread: Why wouldn't you hate anyone who is a fake anything? Geek or otherwise. /thread
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Post by "Gizzark" Mike Wronglevenay on Feb 4, 2013 19:26:37 GMT -5
I don't hate fake geeks, I hate fake anything, and being a geek means I take it personally when someone appropriates my legitimate personality to fit into a trend.
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Post by Evilution E5150 on Feb 4, 2013 19:28:48 GMT -5
no different to metal heads hating posers
posers are posers in all walks of life, no matter what the current trend is
the people who were always into whatever it was and gonna be mad and threatened when the people they always considered assholes and that they were above are into their favorite things
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Post by Starshine on Feb 4, 2013 20:21:36 GMT -5
Personally I don't give two shits about how much someone does or just pretends to like something. If they're interested I'm happy to talk to them about it, or help them learn. If they're not, then I just don't care. I'm not offended, I'm not going to complain about it. Because chances are there's something else we could talk about instead.
I don't judge people on what they might pretend to like, or if they're just trying to talk to me by saying they like something. That's lame, and no better than judging someone just for something they like.
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Post by Baldobomb-22-OH-MAN!!! on Feb 4, 2013 21:25:25 GMT -5
I just think it's funny that some people seem to think there's some standard you have to reach to be considered a "real geek" or whatever. hey, guys, if you meet a girl whose got the same interests as you, stow the recriminations and count your blessings.
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Post by Andrew is Good on Feb 4, 2013 21:43:46 GMT -5
Whenever I see this topic, I think of real geek girls who are attractive getting attacked for being "fake" and "pandering". I feel that the attacking occurs more then the deception.
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Post by Munkie91087 on Feb 4, 2013 21:53:35 GMT -5
People hate when they feel other people are being disingenuous. Especially when they're only liking something because it's trendy. I do hate when male nerds feel the need to assume every girl is a pretend nerd, because that is sexist as hell. However, I do feel like the trend of people (regardless of gender) wearing "nerdy" glasses and talking about the time they saw Amazing Spiderman at midnight is really annoying. Just because you like something nerds like does not make you nerdy.
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Post by Bub (BLM) on Feb 4, 2013 21:54:54 GMT -5
It offends me to the core because I used to get picked on in high school for my comic T-Shirts and collecting toys, and now 11 years after graduation it's "cool". I don't like the idea that people are pretending to like what I was once bullied over just because Batman and the Avengers had socially accepted movies. It just makes me so incredibly spiteful.
Now, don't get me wrong, I have no problem with people loving the movies. If I run into someone and they say they loved The Avengers, that's awesome. What irks me is when people I know firsthand aren't fans of the source material will buy a T-Shirt featuring the cover of The Infinity Gauntlet, because they saw it at Hot Topic. These are the same people who thought Thanos was Hellboy at the end of The Avengers. Don't wear that damned shirt.
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Post by Glitch on Feb 4, 2013 22:00:55 GMT -5
Whenever I see this topic, I think of real geek girls who are attractive getting attacked for being "fake" and "pandering". I feel that the attacking occurs more then the deception. Agreed. Which gives me another excuse to post a real geek girl pic.
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Post by Allie Kitsune on Feb 4, 2013 22:30:45 GMT -5
People hate when they feel other people are being disingenuous. Especially when they're only liking something because it's trendy. I do hate when male nerds feel the need to assume every girl is a pretend nerd, because that is sexist as hell. However, I do feel like the trend of people (regardless of gender) wearing "nerdy" glasses and talking about the time they saw Amazing Spiderman at midnight is really annoying. Just because you like something nerds like does not make you nerdy. Like I said, people expect too much.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 4, 2013 22:36:12 GMT -5
I'm just sick of all the fake hipsters.
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